You can be strong on raw

[raweater]

I admit it, I went back to bodybuilding.com for workout questions as there is a LOT more activity there (if a post doesn't get a reply it's off the first page in minutes, there are that many posts per minute). I just ignore all the "nutritional advice" and ask/read mostly about techniques/tips/etc.

One thing I noticed is that since I eat raw, I lost a lot of weight (max weight was 172lb on 100% junk food, current weight is 132 on 90% raw and 10% not too toxic cooked food), yet my strength remained the same (I used to lift about 300lb and still do, incredible for a 132lb person!). A lot of people on bodybuilding.com don't beleive me so I'll soon post a video there to prove them that it's true and what raw food can do. I mean a few of 200lb+ guys there lift about the same or even less than I do (of course a lot also lift a lot more than me).

I'm still trying to gain weight though, but I am amazed at my strenght to bodyweight ratio, this would not be possible on cooked food.

Isn't it ironic most people think raw food owuld make you weaker? Quite the opposite. By the way the reason I don't lift more than before is I had stopped lifting for a while, I'm sure I'll exceed my SAD strenght shortly.

[kinteet]

Of course you can be strong on raw, look at all the animals in the wild!

Check this out too!
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=iZu6mxNK46U

Keep on pushing!

F1

[raweater]

Is that the Fruitarian One in the video? And is that you (kinteet=fruitarian one?) Just wondering since you signed "F1" but you/he normally has a different username.

Thanks

[kinteet]

Originally Posted by raweater

Is that the Fruitarian One in the video? And is that you (kinteet=fruitarian one?) Just wondering since you signed "F1" but you/he normally has a different username.

Thanks

Yep... it is I...F1 and it is I in the vids.

Strength isn't in the food you eat....it's in your attitude!

Also...gaining weight that you are not naturally supposed to have is going against your bodies universal law!

F1

[RawSinger]

kinteet: that video of Richard Blackman is rediculous! I feel tired just watching him. That's so sad. I'm going to go work out now

[cara4art]

I agree!
Look at F1's pix - he looks pretty buff to me, and Charlie at charliesgyminfo.com. But F1 makes an excellent point about gaining weight you're not supposed to have is excellent, IMO. If one has a light build, and is strength-training well and on a raw diet, that body will be lean and light with sparkling muscle definition. Even with a heavier build, the raw body built on raw foods won't be the heavily bulked up look as in traditional bodybuilding, it will still be smaller, but more refined. I think Storm at the Garden Diet website had something to say along these lines as he has been raw for 30 years, and working out solidly for many of those years as well.
For my own part, in my raw journey, I am looking forward to the body that gets unveiled through continuing training and dietary refinement. For the record, I'm one of those women with a light bone structure, and not really overweight at this time, just a few menopausal pounds away from "fighting weight", so to speak. But I'm going by inches lost in the mid-section, and general appearance, rather than scale weight anyway.

[raweater]

I'm not sure what "gaining weight you're not supposed to have" means, if you lift heavy weights you will eat more and gain weight, it's a direct result and don't see what could be bad about that, I'm not taking drugs or anything, just lifting heavy weights and eating to my hunger, that's all.

[raweater]

Well I'm already up to 138. I'm still curious to know what's supposedly wrong with increasing my weight by getting stronger by working out...

[raweater]

Made it to 142 lbs so far! I'm gaining weight/strenght/muscle much faster than I expected too.

No one has yet told me what's supposedly wrong with gaining weight by working out, I really, really don't get it at all. How can it be healthier to stop moving and let all my muscles melt away? It makes no sense whatsoever.

I think either I or you are missing something here and I'd like to know who is missing what.

By the way, F1, how much do you weigh if you don't mind me asking and how many calories a day do you eat?

Thanks

[shashibala]

I could be wrong, but I think "gaining weight you're not supposed to have" is referring to weight gained from unhealthy food rather than from muscle.
You may actually be agreeing with each other.

[raweater]

But I think it's obvious I'm not eating unhealthy food, to me it sounded like they were saying that gaining muscle weight is unhealthy or dangerous, so I must be misudnerstanding something.

kinteet & cara4art, could you please explain what you meant by gaining weight you're not supposed to have is unhealthy? I'd really, really like to know what you meant by that.

[Revvell]

You seem to be taking what Richard said personally. I didn't get he was talking about you. I got he was talking in general.... how some, as Shashibala said, eat wrong and gain excess poundage from that.

There's also something called functional muscle meaning learning to use bodyweight for working out and he's doing and not just lifting for the sake of gaining non-functional muscle.

I use to work out 4-5 hours a day, 6-7 days a week with a partner. My partner was 5'4" and weighed in at about 197. He could lift quite heavily. One day he went to work doing some manual labor with his father. He was amazed and embarrassed that he had all this muscle and these "old guys" (older than he, whatever that was) who had long, rangy muscles could do waaaay more than he. They had functional muscles built on doing stuff with their bodies rather than what one does in the gym.

I'm sure Richard will correct me if I'm wrong.

For more, check out the Primal Play thread on this site.

Revvell

[tiffanybiffanypiffany]

aww silly. well i don't have any advice because i would die if i looked like a body builder, but all i can say is ....hoch fünf!!!

(its high five in german)

[paulieGB]

Hey, raweater.

Congrats on your muscle gain.
I would love to know what your diet looks like protein and fat %.
Im also trying to gain weight/muscle.

Cheers, Paulie.

[Eva]

Yeah -- saw you're up to 146 -- can't wait to see when you get to your goal!