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  1. #31
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    OHHHHhhhhhh do you mean the liver/gallbladder flush (dr hulda clark)? that's the one i will do as soon as i feel stronger and my colon is cleaner. congrats on staying strong with the MC (!!!!).

    luv,
    linda

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    Hi everyone. I just wanted to say hi and join the fasting girls party LOL
    I'm on day 4 of my juice fast today and doing well. Doing a daily coffee enema to help flush the toxins. Also scraping tongue and adding a bit of peroxide to water and rinsing my mouth with that after I brush. Yowee, a white bubbly tongue each time!

    In a stroke of amazing luck, a client of mine sent me a box of organic oranges yesterday as a New Year's present...great timing! When you juice oranges, do you peel them and toss them in the juicer (I have a Juiceman Jr.) or do you use a spinning citrus juicer? I'm experimenting since I'm not crazy about the frothy o.j. the Juiceman makes.

    I'm posting what I'm juicing daily on my Journal pages. I'll check back here too. Good luck ladies
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    Yipeee Melissa,

    I have read on a number juicing sites that said that the peel should be removed first--sometimes I like leaving it on b/c I like that frothy stuff !

    My juicing is going smoothly too--I am drinking a little over a 1/2 gallon of water a day--it truly makes the detox symptoms easier. One interesting observation is every morning @ 5:30 ish, I am more wake than any other part of the day. Then I read that this is the hour that the liver and gallbladder are awake! So then I drink more water.


    thinking of my juicing buddies!
    linda

    Misslinda has been dedicated to the ancient art of fasting since 2004 for optimal health and wellness.


    "Fasting is an intimate experience between the mind body & spirit."


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    Hello ladies! Day four and I'm doing splendid. I can't get over how great I feel. A little hunger last night, but nothing major. I feel like I could just live on juice! I've decided to skip green juices for a few days since they really aren't appealing to me. We got a case of organic valencia oranges yesterday and I have been drinking fresh oj to my heart's content! One box was $36, so it's kind of pricey, but totally worth it. Melissa, we use a a manual glass reamer/bowl thingy. It works pretty well! I haven't tried oranges in my champion yet and probably won't, since I don't like the froth.

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    This is a little graphic, be forewarned!
    Oh my, did I have quite the day of detoxing. I used the CleaseSmart stuff last night and my head felt a little wierd right after I took it, like I took percoset or something. I took the morning dose of the cleanse stuff and the fiber as well. I drank about a half gallon of water and a ton of limeade. I wasn't going to the bathroom at all and I was feeling really bad. I was feeling really constipated and then I got a terrible, terrible, TERRIBLE headache. I have never had a headache like this, EVER. I had that for a while, so I made myself a salt water flush really fast because I was so desperate to get the toxins out and nothing was moving. Before I even had a chance to drink it, I got this huge wave of sick feeling come over me and I had to run to the toilet to throw up. I threw up about 2 cups of pure mucous. It was disgusting and I felt like total crud but at the same time I was *SO* excited!!!! I rested for a little bit and then drank the salt water. Not too long later, things started happening. I went to the bathroom a few times and still felt like I needed to clean out. I weighed myself and I was almost back up to the weight I started before the cleanse. (This morning before I drank anything I was down 10 lbs.) I know my body is doing some serious stuff- I guess I wasn't expecting detox to be this bad. (I don't know why, I know I'm really toxic. I guess I just hadn't ever experienced it before.) I still feel pretty bad, my head hurts and I'm all spacey....really out of it. Also, I have noticed for the last few days that whenever I take a shower it is a mucous fest. I guess the steam makes my nose run and makes it come up my throat. Ugh! Sorry for the gross details!

    Are you guys detoxing at all? How are your fasts going?

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    Hellooo....OK I just read your posts Linda and Olive. Sorry I'm so slow! :)
    I just figured out the private messages thing, and check that regularly now, so if you don't see a response on the boards, by all means, pm me!

    Alright, so you both asked a couple questions, and it's way past my bedtime, so I'll just comment on a couple things and if you want to know more, pm me.

    I initially did it because I have always wanted to do a cleanse and couldn't ever go to, say, a retreat for 30 days. His you can do without interrupting your life. Some of my goals in that fast were: to get off sugar, to clear up my acne (which I did, marvelously!), to lose 10-13 pounds of fat I was carrying, and to experience really being clean from the inside out.

    What I liked about Dennis's program is that when you have a coach with a tried-and-true program, you never have to second-guess yourself. Plus, when you drop the ca$h, you are committed! There is no turning back. For me, there is a lot of mental anguish (for lack of a better word) that can come up during fasts, and I've tried doing them on my own, unsuccessfully. I just get 'in my head' too much about things like "what if X happens?" "Is this normal?" "How come I am / am not experiencing X symptoms?" "Maybe I should stop now" "Maybe I've lost too much weight" or "Why am I not losing enough weight?" "Right now isn't a good time to do this. I should just break my fast" etc, you know, getting caught up in the monkey mind rather than just letting the marvelous cleansing process happpen. I am not skilled nor experienced enough in long term fasting to beat down those mental demons as they appear. I really valued Dennis's coaching to get me through some nasty physical, mental, and emotional challenges associated with the fast.

    The other thing is - if you are doing long term fasts, you must scrape your tongue each morning (just use an inverted spoon head) and, you will most definitely benefit from an enema at least once a day.

    Proper scientific fasting is, well, a science! There are many methods of 'fasting' out there that are more like starvation and I just don't agree with those methods. His program is very user-friendly, safe, and practical.

    One thing that he teaches is that all your juices must be strained through a fine mesh screen (i.e. permanent coffee filter) to get ALL pulp, puree, seeds, fibers, whatever, out of it. So...no smoothies, froth, etc. Any solid particle ingested will prevent your brain from shutting down the appestat mechanism (the part of your brain that tells your tummy it's time to eat...or is it the other way around? lol...), thus leaving you feeling weak and hungry most of the time. Also, if you are ingesting solid particles of any kind, your body has to use its metabolic energy to digest food, which means you are not skillfully shutting down the digestive processes, resulting in either totally slowing down or not ever entering the phase of a fast where the body will start to pull toxins from the tissue.

    OK, hubby is calling me to bed. It's almost 1 AM! LOL...

    Talk to you all soon ;)

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    Julie, sorry to hear your going thur it so hard right now. wow, up ten lbs? did you go back down?

    Olive, i read veggiegirl's response--are you going to start straining your juices?


    luv,
    linda

    Misslinda has been dedicated to the ancient art of fasting since 2004 for optimal health and wellness.


    "Fasting is an intimate experience between the mind body & spirit."


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    Thanks VeggieGirl for the post!

    I already strain most of my juice and take the foam off. I haven't been scraping my tongue yet, but it sounds like a good idea. I also haven't been doing enemas this fast, though I will in the future. I think two new scary things at once would be too much for me. :)

    So, I'm on day five and doing well. I went to bed super early (9:30, which is really early for me) last night and woke up feeling tired and spacey. My last juice was around 4:30, so I think that had something to do with it. I'm also having intestinal cramping, though it's not bad. And the little bit of bm that I'm having is bright yellow. Bile maybe? Or just the juice? Overall, still feeling good and motivated! I think I will end my fast on Sunday though, making it a 7 day juice fast. I had wanted to do a long fast, but I think for my first fast ever, a shorter one would be best. I think I will do a long one over summer or fall and another short one before then.

    Have a wonderful juicy day!

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    Linda,
    I went down about 5 lbs. I drank a TON of water yesterday so I know that made it go up- the liquid is still probably in there loosening things up. That's what seems to be happening, anyway.

    I feel great after that wierd detox thing yesterday. Still not where I want to be, but on my way!

    Question: I am going to start straining my limes better- but if I am taking the CleanseSmart capsules, will that keep my digestion going? I'm thinking so... so I was considering breaking the capsules open into water and just taking them that way. If anyone knows about this could you please help me out?

    I scraped my tongue last night (Wild Oats has really cool tongue scrapers if you want an "official" one LOL) and it's already coated again this morning.

    Today is the day I start exercising!

    Keep on chuggin' (your juice :) )

    Julie

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    POW WOW (!!!) Hooray Julie........way to go--you are doing awesome. I'm dying to do the MC but ND says now is not good time for me right now since the ER visit. So are you staying with the salt water flush?

    boy, i wish i knew what that white coated tongue was like

    dreaming of your detox symptoms,
    linda

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    I haven't done the flush today, just yesterday when I needed to feel better fast. I am going to start doing enemas every day for a little while and then every two or three after that. I just don't feel like I'm cleaning out like I need to, I feel "stuck" (but not really constipated). I'm still going #2 but it's mostly liquid... I am drinking so much but it doesn't seem like everything is exiting. There has to be a lot going on in there because I am definitely detoxing- I guess time will tell!

    Time to go tongue scrape!

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    jULIE, HAVE YOU TRIED THE MUSTARD SEED POWDER DETOX BATH---IT FEELS WONDERFUL. TRY IT ALONG WITH WHAT YOU ARE DOING!

    LUV,
    LINDA

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    HERE'S SOME HELPFUL THOUGHTS FOR ANYONE DOING OR PLANNING ON DOING A JUICE FAST.

    VEGGIEGIRL BROUGHT UP AN INTERESTING POINT ABOUT MAKING SURE THE JUICE IS RUN THROUGH A STRAINER SO THAT ALL FROTH AND PULP IS OBSOLETE!
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    I SEARCHED OTHER WEBSITES THAT DISCUSSES JUICE FASTING AND IT WAS MENTIONED THAT TO PREVENT THE BODY FROM GOING INTO STARVATION MODE, REMOVE ALL FROTH AND PULP SO THE DIGESTIVE SYSTEM CAN FOCUS ON DETOXIFYING OTHERWISE THE BLOOD WILL TRY TO FOCUS ON DIGESTING. I'M NOT AN EXPERT BUT I SUPPOSE THAT WOULD CAUSE THE BODY TO THINK THAT IT WAS STARVING--IT MADE SENSE.
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    ITEM OF THE DAY: STRAINER OR COFFEE FILTER
    IF ANYONE HAS ANY OTHER HELPFUL TIPS, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO POST THEM HERE

    DOES THIS MEAN I AM STARTING ALL OVER WITH MY JUICE FAST?

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    "Fasting is an intimate experience between the mind body & spirit."


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    Joopie: No need to open the capsules of CS, they are veggie type, and will dissolve in your belly, no residue. You WILL want to strain the juice. (MissLinda is right with her last post) That was my mistake the first time I did the master cleanse...I was so attached to the little lime fibers, they were like "chewing" on something, but I still saw them in my BM so I know that wasn't good. I think that is why Stanley Burroughs says to strain the juice.

    Sounds like everyone is doing great. I applaude you. I am at day 11 of the raw challenge, and have put off the MC for a bit. I was to have started it last weekend, but I never managed to get it going. I do think it takes courage. It has been several months though, so I am overdue....

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    Cassy,

    Good darn thing I don't have to open them- I tried it and EWWWWWW! LOL I get really spaced out whenever I take the CleanseSmart capsules.... do you think that is the herbs or the detox? It happens pretty quickly right after I take them.

    I think I am going to try staying on the salt water flush for a while before I do enemas, I decided. I read Nora Lenz's article that Curtis posted on another thread, and I have heard the same thing in a number of other places. I am going to continue to use the CleanseSmart and let my body do the rest. I just need to be patient.

    Julie

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