I am so angry

[Kristi]

My son has never drank milk. If he tries something he doesn't like it. My thought is that he is lactose intolerant and his body naturally tells him he should not have it by making him not like it. Besides, I'm against dairy in general. Now, the school system will automatically give him a milk with lunch. I said, he doesn't drink it can you exchange water or juice. Not without a doctor's note. What?! I, as his parent, cannot tell you what I want my child to eat? My word is not good enough. No. Fine, I'll go get a note. Well, the doctor won't give me a note because he has not been "officially diagnosed." How do they diagnose.....they say stop drinking milk....there do you feel better. Yep, lactose intolerant. They want me to come in and PAY to have the doctor say that. BS! !!!!!

So, obviously vegans have even a harder time because of no doctors note. I am so flipping mad I could spit!!!!!

[Rawkinlocs]

That's just awful and very, very annoying to hear, Kristi!

I can totally understand you being upset by this. But you do realize that it's set up this way for a reason...I mean afterall, "milk does a body good"

Well, you can either get the doctor's note OR you can simply have him bring his own juice or water to school to have with lunch and tell him to simply throw the milk away. I know it costs for the little carton of pus (sorry, just callin' it what it is) but if you don't want to jump through all the hoops, then it's an option.

[kirk]

Kristi,
I know exactly how you feel...as an amputee I can't even buy a sock without a dr. visit.

[Kristi]

I know it is probably set up this way to protect children who perhaps aren't given proper nutrition at home and yes, the "it does a body good" campaign but it gets back to the principle of the whole thing....why can't a parent's word be good enough. It's not like I'm asking them only to feed him cookies, it's milk vs. juice/water for a common sense reason. The doctor won't even give me the note because there's no official diagnosis......meaning, I didn't pay him to have his professional opinion since I am just a layperson that knows nothing. I know he could just take it or just pay for it but I'm spending an extra dollar a day........that doesn't sound like much but it sure adds up. We are having big money problems right now (thanks to another government thing that is designed to help us, but that's another story.....don't even get me started on the student loan situation.

I know I should just let it go and I'm sure I will soon. It's just fresh enough that I want to rant and rave a little bit.

Thanks for listening. Maybe I should have him say, no thank you, I don't want that little carton of pus. That'll stun 'em.

[Rawkinlocs]

You're kidding right? They are charging a DOLLAR for those little cartons of pus nowadays??!!?? My goodness!

I didn't know because when my kids were in public school, they got the free lunch program but I homeschool now (Detroit schools SUCK!) so I had no idea how much they charge for that.

Geez! Well, rant and do what need to because believe me, I totally understand your frustration on all levels of this matter.

(((hugs)))

[Kristi]

The milk is 25 cents. The juice is 75 cents. I pay for both.

[marigold]

thats outrageous..i dont think they do this in uk anymore..used to...there have been ideas to give infants fruit and then all the primary school ang guess what the parents objected !! you are not going to make my child eat fruit..i kid you not!!!!

there is nothing for alternative of healing here in the system..for time off sick for eg you hve to visit the doctor...ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[thunderdancer]

Blimey Kristi that's awful, rant away.

So where you live you don't have the right to be vegan?
You can't just say 'my child is vegan' - that's not ok?
You are so right about you have the right purely as his mother to say no milk, it's madness.

I'm prob being very niaeve, not living in the US or having kids, but it's just nuts if you ask me, even if your kid isn't vegan, forcing milk is just ridiculous, infringement of your rights surely?

Thunderdancer thundering with you xx

[Kristi]

Thanks to you all!

~Thunderdancer~ I live in the USA......you know "land of the free" come on, sing it with me! Welcome to our family! I'm really not this grumpy all the time.

[thunderdancer]

Hi Kristi!

Thanks for the welcome :)

I love the way you write, grumpy is cool sometimes, I love how this board is so REAL!

And I just saw your pics too - awesome! I want to do Aikido when I go home next month, can't wait - I have always wanted to learn a martial art. A few weeks ago I did a Ju Jitsu class and it nearly kiled me as they sprung a fitness test that day!! Awesome stuff, I loved throwing my body about on the mats and learning to trust, roll and move in new ways, I threw a HUGE guy and i'm only 5ft1 and small RaAHHHHH!! You look like you have an advanced belt? Oops i'm going off thread here aren't I.. WOW just went and saw you are a black belt in instructor and your family are hard core too! NICE! that's so excellent.

[Helen Of Tennessee]

Hi Kristi,

I'm so sorry to hear what your school is doing to you. I just calculated it out . . . it is costing you $45.50 a year (180 school days) for your son to just dump the milk out. How sad . . . such a waste of money.

I thought you might be interested in this article:

Frank Oski, M.D., author of Don't Drink Your Milk! is the Director of the Department of Pediatrics of Johns Hopkins University School of Medicine and Physician-in-Chief of the Johns Hopkins Children's Center. He is the author, co-author, editor or co-editor of 19 medical textbooks and has written 290 medical manuscripts and is mentioned in this article. If someone of his stature doesn't think our children should be drinking milk, then why should a school board of education people (who may not even have a degree in anything) tell you what's good for your child?????

Cow's Milk is for Calves

<>< Helen of Tennessee

[ConsciousCuisine]

I relate. I send my daughter with lunch and snacks to school, as I wouldn't even feed a stray dog the junk they serve here in California (we're all "Healthy in Cali, right? Wrong! There's not even a salad bar option!) All the food is overcooked, irradiated, genetically modified, commercially grown and sprayed with toxic chemicals. We're working to pass bills that will ban some of these practicies (like irradiation) and even if they passed I would *still* send her lunches, because it's all unhealthy junk.

For Girl Scout Camp, I had to get a Doctor's note. I went to her Pediatrician and told him she has always had a reaction to any small trace of dairy- "allergy shiners", gas, stomach cramping, eczema rashes you name it! Any symptom of Lactose intolerance, I exaggerated. He wrote the note. :) In part, I think, just to shut me up... :)

Kristi, why not make his lunches yourself? That way he'd get lovingly prepared, wholesome healthy food of his and your choice. You can make a good lunch at home affordably and infuse it with your love and care...

[Kristi]

Helen~ I'm reading his book now!

CC ~ He's in middle school and it isn't cool to bring your lunch. Whatever that means! I finally got the doc to give me a note.....again, to shut me up!

[Analeah]

This whole situation is unbelievable! I think you should sue the school!

[AJ Bodine]

Kristi,

I live in Wisconsin, the Dairy State.

One of the top ten reasons we decided to homeschool our son was because of this very reason. The milk thing in school lunch programs.

I've heard horror stories where lunch ladies will check each and every child's carton to make sure they've drunk their milk and aren't throwing away that room temperature pus. They've actually made kids stand at the garbage can and drink the rest before they are allowed to throw it out.

And no Dr. will give you a note, even though the school says they need one. I've already been told that Mom's who have tried to get their kids excused from drinking it, can't find a Dr. that would sign that kind of note because lactose intolerance can't be proven. I would NEVER allow my son to drink that poison every day at lunchtime. When I first heard about this problem, it strengthened my resolve to homeschool.

I'm so sorry to hear that you are going through this. I'd instruct your son not to drink it and throw it away if you are not able to get a note from a Dr. This is unbelievable and I'm glad you posted about it. The squeaky wheel get's oiled, just fight them on it and maybe they'll get sick of you and give him juice!

You've gotten my dander up on this issue Kristi!

AJ