Parasites & Papaya Seeds

[walnutty]

I have a 1/2 cup of fresh papaya seeds as I just cut up a papaya for a smoothie.

Does anyone know for sure how these should be taken for parasites?

Fresh? Dehydrated? Ground? With honey?

I have heard so many different ways and I don't want to waste them by taking them wrong.

Because of the extreme bloating I have, I believe I do have parasites and want to use papaya seeds from now on each time I cut up a papaya!

Thanks everyone!!! Ü

[Arky]

I have a 1/2 cup of fresh papaya seeds as I just cut up a papaya for a smoothie.

Does anyone know for sure how these should be taken for parasites?

Fresh? Dehydrated? Ground? With honey?

I have heard so many different ways and I don't want to waste them by taking them wrong.

Because of the extreme bloating I have, I believe I do have parasites and want to use papaya seeds from now on each time I cut up a papaya!

Thanks everyone!!! Ü

Be careful with attempting to treat parasites.

There are a myriad of different foods and herbs from around the world which are claimed to be antiparasitic in nature (e.g. papaya seeds, garlic, black walnut hull, cloves, wormwood, wormseed etc., etc.), but I can tell you, from very distressing personal experience, that there are certain parasites which should not be messed with (eg Ascaris). You can actually make things a lot worse.


Please don't misinterpret my words as being 'pessimistic'. They're not on that level. They're on the level of extremely harsh and distressing personal experience, and I wish to spare you this.

If you think you have a genuine parasite issue, for goodness sake please see a qualified practitioner, or at the very least get a few stool tests to try to accurately identify what species it might be (I say several, because stool tests are a bit 'hit-and-miss' at times). Different parasites require different treatment; different parasites have different abilities to evade herbal remedies (some by scattering outside of the digestive tract, elsewhere in the body). In some circumstances (e.g. ascaris) herbs simply won't accomplish the desired goal, and pharmaceuticals may be the only truly viable option. If you know me on RFT, you'll know that I'm generally very pro-natural and anti-pharma, so I don't mention that option, above, without very serious reason to do so.

I'm not regurgitating theory, here. I've suffered MUCH more than most ever will, on the parasites side of things, though you won't see me discussing it much, here on RFT.

Please heed my advice and seek diagnosis first before you attempt to misguidedly throw a few natural foods / herbs into your digestive system in a random attempt to dislodge an unidentified potential parasite.

With luck, it won't be parasitic at all, but if it is you need to find out exactly what it is and how it specifically needs to be treated.

Good luck :-)

[walnutty]

Thanks for the response, Arky!

I don't have the funds to see anyone about parasites.

I do suspect that I have them and so since I have these fresh papaya seeds, which surely can't hurt me to ingest them, I wanted to know what others thought.

Thank you for your thoughts!

[Arky]

Thanks for the response, Arky!

I don't have the funds to see anyone about parasites.

I understand. Really, I do.

You need to start a detailed symptom diary.

If it is parasitic, you may begin to notice it gets worse at certain times (perhaps in relation to the lunar cycle, or in relation to a longer cycle, like 10-12 weeks). You might also notice it being worse within 1 - 48 hrs of eating particular foods (sweet or starchy foods, perhaps, or very astringent foods or drinks like strong tea, pomegranate, grapeseed extract etc.). Some parasites can be very active in the gut if they have starch or sugar to feed on. Some parasites really dislike astringent foods/drinks and will become agitated by them.

If you lack the money to consult with anyone, you need to be especially diligent in documenting any correlations like those above, as and when they occur. Different parasites have different life cycles and reproductive cycles. Different parasites manifest different symptoms. You must become Sherlock Holmes.

I do suspect that I have them and so since I have these fresh papaya seeds, which surely can't hurt me to ingest them, I wanted to know what others thought.

Perhaps; perhaps not. It very much depends on what parasite you may be dealing with. Don't make the very unwise mistake of just assuming there will be no repercussions. What I am saying to you is not borne of cynicism, paranoia, skepticism, dogma, pessimism, or whatever. It's borne of actual, real, distressing experience and of a sincere compassion for anyone else who may be at risk of experiencing the same. Please don't make the mistake I, and others, have, by assuming that just because it's natural, it can't harm. Parasites like ascaris will not just sit around and wait to die. They will do everything they can to evade anything unpleasant being thrown at them in the digestive tract.

Now, I'm hopeful that you are not experiencing ascaris. In your case, you may (if anything at all is, in fact, present) be facing something a lot less tenacious. But at this stage, you don't know what might be going on. Therefore, on the off-chance that you just might, possibly, have ascaris, please learn from my experience - don't mess around with any anti-parasitic foods or herbs until you have a better idea of the identity of what you may be needing to treat. If I could turn back time, believe me, I'd thank, 'til the end of my days, anyone who gave me the benefit of the very-hard-won experience I'm giving you.

My logic, at that time, was that I 'needed to try something rather than do nothing', and that logic seemed very... well, 'logical', indeed. But as logical as it may have seemed, I now know that that logic was excrutiatingly flawed. There are occasions when it really is better to leave alone until one knows the exact identity of what one may be dealing with. As I said previously, different parasites behave in different ways. Some are more helpless and easy to kill, others are very tenacious and evasive. Some will be killed by certain substances, whilst others have adapted to become immune to them. Some have a physiology susceptible to certain chemicals, whilst others have an entirely different physiology.


Please understand that every man and his dog, in the natural health world, will encourage you to buy a Hulda Clarke book and start guzzling tinctures of wormwood, black walnut green hull, and cloves. Some people do, indeed, experience results from taking these tinctures, but for the percentage of patients with gastrointestinal parasites who may have ascaris infection, all hell can break loose, and it's very, very nasty. This is why I keep urging you to very seriously (and courageously) err on the side of caution until you have established, with reasonable certainty, that ascaris is not present in your gut. It takes great courage to refrain from attempting to treat a parasite if your symptoms are strongly suggestive of one being present. I have walked this path. I truly understand. I was patient for several years and then, out of exasperation at the ineptitude of the conventional medicial profession being unable to diagnose anything, I eventually made a decision I will regret for the rest of my life, by trying to use herbs, the result of which was a gastrointestinal parasite going systemic.


Whilst I appreciate funds are tight, if you do go ahead with a stool test, there are several labs available (Genova Diagnostics, Metametrix, Great Smokies etc.), but please consider the following, as, unlike the other labs, the parasitologists there focus almost exclusively on parasitology, and specialise in cases where other labs may have returned negative or inconclusive results. They're also, relatively-speaking, quite reasonable in terms of pricing:

http://www.parasitetesting.com/

Dr.Omar Amin, of the above lab, was interviewed by Patrick Timpone a while back. It would be well worth your time taking a listen:

http://oneradionetwork.com/health-ch...-9-am-central/



At the end of the day, it's your body, and your decision what you do, and I respect that. But at the same time, if you truly knew the hell I've been through (which I won't elaborate upon, here on RFT), you'd very seriously take on board my words of caution. I'm telling you this because I wish someone had told me, and I'm telling you this because I care very much that nobody has to experience the same hell I've been through. I am very much on your side, even though I may be telling you something you don't want to hear. I understand the logic that it's 'better to do something than do nothing', but sometimes logic is faulty, and this is one of those situations. You must first identify what your enemy may be, before you can fight it without it fighting back.

Hopefully, there is a chance your symptoms may not be parasite relatred, but prodding a hornets' nest with antiparasitic foods and herbs is like playing Russian Roulette. This doesn't mean you are disempowered; it just means that in order to be empowered, you must first identify, and only then choose the best plan of attack (which might be of a pharmaceutical nature, even if, like me, one is very pro-natural in their approach to healthcare).

Whatever your decision, I wish you well, and if you have any other questions, just ask.

Take care


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@Waluntty: I'm curious...what are the symptoms that are indicative of a parasite? If you don't want to share, I understand.

@Arky: I'm sorry you had to go through that experience and bless you for trying to help others!

[walnutty]

@Waluntty: I'm curious...what are the symptoms that are indicative of a parasite? If you don't want to share, I understand.

Extreme bloating!

When I awake after sleeping I look about 3 months pregnant. As soon as I eat or drink anything, even water, my stomach immediately gets bloated and hard and I look about 12 months pregnant!

In my research of what could be causing this I have found that the most likely cause is parasites. Not any particular or dangerous kind, just the kind that most of us have. I didn't realize how common or normal parasites were until I started getting colonics about a year ago. That's when I first learned that this bloating I have been dealing with for about 10 years is most likely parasites.

[walnutty]

You need to start a detailed symptom diary.

If it is parasitic, you may begin to notice it gets worse at certain times (perhaps in relation to the lunar cycle, or in relation to a longer cycle, like 10-12 weeks).

If you lack the money to consult with anyone, you need to be especially diligent in documenting any correlations like those above, as and when they occur. Different parasites have different life cycles and reproductive cycles. Different parasites manifest different symptoms. You must become Sherlock Holmes.

My symptom is extreme bloating as soon as I eat or drink anything even water. It's as simple as that.


"Whilst I appreciate funds are tight, if you do go ahead with a stool test..."

I don't mean to be rude, but most people cannot appreciate the financial situation I am in. I live in extreme poverty and do not have family to help me...so it is what it is.