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    Default Where do you get your calories? (~2000)

    Hi.

    I'm 20 years old and I weigh 62kg.

    I used an online calculator which approximated my need for calories at about 2000, taking into account that I don't exercise.

    The problem is I have no idea where to get so much calories on a vegan diet. I'd have to eat a huge amount of fruit to get even close to that amount.

    10% from fat sounds ok, but then I still have to get 1800 from pure fruit.

    So my question is; where do you get your 2k calories? How can you eat so much fruit per day? Is it possible to eat "too much" fruit?
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    Sprouted mung beans, sprouted adzuki beans, sprouted lentils, sprouted millet, sprouted quinoa, sprouted amaranth, sprouted peas = carbs.

    Mainly sprouted sesame seeds and chestnuts for fats, but also sprouted flax and chia seeds and I'll eat sprouted sunflower seeds occasionally.

    Is it possible to eat "too much" fruit?
    Yes. Although some on here will probably tell you the opposite.

    where do you get your 2k calories
    I don't eat anywhere near 2000 calories (despite being very active), but that's a long story. I get almost all my calories from the sprouts listed above.

    Sprout smoothies are a great way to pack the calories in - they don't taste very good at first but you get used to them, and they're far more nutritious then smoothies mostly made out of fruit.



    Calorie calculators are normally flawed anyway, but calories don't matter much as a raw vegan. Just eat when you're hungry.

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    I don't eat anywhere near 2000 calories (despite being very active), but that's a long story. I get almost all my calories from the sprouts listed above.
    But how?

    I ran a test on myself before saying the magical 2000 calories number.

    This was the test. I was hungry at 8pm. I ate 250 calories in fruits, and I was hungry again after 2 hours. The same happened in the next 2 hours (after taking in 250 calories).

    Which leads me to a conclusion that 2k is a pretty accurate number (if I'm awake for 16 hours -> 8 250 calories meals -> 2000 calories).

    Sprouted mung beans, sprouted adzuki beans, sprouted lentils, sprouted millet, sprouted quinoa, sprouted amaranth, sprouted peas = carbs.

    Mainly sprouted sesame seeds and chestnuts for fats, but also sprouted flax and chia seeds and I'll eat sprouted sunflower seeds occasionally.
    Do you feel a similar 'energy' hit with these foods just like with fruits, or do they leave you feeling a bit sluggish?

    I am definately going to try this out. Do you think that regular stores have this? I'm hearing for most of these foods the first time.

    Could you also tell me how much % of the food you eat goes to fruits/vegetables/seeds?
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    After eating lots of sprouts and sprout juices for a long time, you start to need much less food because of the electromagnetic vibration of the food; sprouts are rapidly growing and have a much higher vibration then other foods. But just eat as much as you need to for now and eventually you'll start needing less.

    In my experience it's very hard to fill up on only fruit, I was always hungry again in an hour or 2 (sometimes within 30 minutes). Some people seem to do well on very high fruit diets but most don't.

    But during the season I gorge myself on fresh wild fruits + some apples and berries I pick myself.

    Do you feel a similar 'energy' hit with these foods just like with fruits, or do they leave you feeling a bit sluggish?
    Compared to sprouts, I feel sluggish after eating fruit. It all comes down to the very high nutrient levels and electromagnetic vibrations in sprouts. Eventually you'll have more energy then you know what to do, never get tired and need very little sleep and be happy all the time. Nothing beats sproutarianism (eating mostly sprouts). It's absolutely the best decision I ever made in my life.

    Do you think that regular stores have this?
    Some stores do have a very small selection of sprouts like mung beans, but by law they need to be treated with toxic substances to sterilize them (at least in the US) and are soaked in and grown with toxic tap water, so it's better to grow them yourself.

    Could you also tell me how much % of the food you eat goes to fruits/vegetables/seeds?
    Fruits: I only eat fruit when it's in season, and only the fruit that I pick off the tree/bush myself. Even 15 minutes after being picked most of the electromagnetic vibration will be gone from the fruit and many of the nutrients will be gone after a few days. Store-bought fruit is frequently weeks old or older.

    Vegetables: The only mature vegetables I eat are wild greens (weeds), but I eat tons of green sprouts and microgreens. I drink 30-40 oz of green sprout juice most days. Hands-down the best thing you can do for your health. The same problem applies to store-bought vegetables as fruit - it was picked too long ago and most of the nutrients are gone by the time you buy it. Also, virtually everything you can eat today has far less nutrients then it did just 50 years ago because our soils are very depleted now due to modern farming practices, and we also need far more nutrition now then we did 50 or 100 years ago because of all of the increased pollution and stress we are exposed to today. Because of all that, it is very important to eat lots of green sprouts, microgreens, cereal grasses, and weeds + algaes to not just get the same amount of nutrients we got a century ago, but dramatically exceed those amounts so that we can meet all of our additional nutritional requirements in this day and age.

    Seeds: One of my main meals is sprouted seeds, the other is sprouted legumes or grains/pseudograins.


    Percents? It depends on the season. When fruit is in season I'll eat lots of fresh fruit (picked by myself), weed and sprout juices, and pretty much nothing else. Otherwise I'll have none. During summer and spring I'll drink as much weed juice as I can get my hands on, but during winter and fall it's much harder to find most weeds.

    No matter what season it is, though, I ALWAYS have lots of sprout juice everyday. That is the key to everything.


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    I'm a purist; I'm not saying you can never eat fruit or vegetables from a store, but that if you do choose to do that, make sure you make up for it by including lots of fresh sprouts and sprout juices in your diet. Even just make 50% of your diet sprouted, and include 30-40 oz of fresh sprout juice, and you'll still be one of the healthiest people on the planet.

    Sproutarians never get sick.

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    Nutrient-dense meals such as smoothies, soups (savory smoothies) & puddings all tend to be more filling than eating just fruit alone. You shouldn't need so many meals if you're eating enough to satisfy you. Besides fruit & fats, you can use superfoods such as sprouted protein powder, chlorella or spirulina, etc. to obtain more calories. Always make sure to balance the fruit with plenty of greens, celery or sprouts.

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    Eating enough was something I had troubles with in the beginning. My body finally adapted though. Eating 1000 calories of SAD I recalled being simple because it was such a low volume and required little space in my stomach, but eating 1000 calories of raw plants required my stomach to become accustomed to that volume of food. In my experience, the body/stomach will adapt to what's needed to get enough fuel. In the beginning there was no way I could eat 1000 calories from fruit......but now it's simple.....well that really depends on the fruit I suppose. LOL 1000 calories from watermelon takes a while.....HA......but 1000 calories from say mango or banana or date is pretty easy now. It's sort of funny for me to recall when eating 3 bananas in one sitting seemed like a lot...... :-D

    I really don't know if it's possible to eat too much fruit. But there are a few people that post blood test results who eat high fruit low fat or 80/10/10 for the last 6-12 years and their results speak for themselves. I believe that one person I recall off the top of my head is Chris Kendall.
    https://www.azurestandard.com/ <------- cheap organic produce shipped to you. It's free to join.

    Can you all imagine the abundant world we would live in if we all planted the seeds of every plant we ate. You wouldn't be able to throw a stone without hitting a fruit tree or berry bush or some fruit/vegetable bearing plant. Imagine the bees that would thrive in such an environment. I see a world.....................

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    Were not 811 here. YOu can eat all of the fruits vegetables, nuts, and seeds you want. Greens are an excellent source of micronutrients.
    Tracey

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    Sprouted mung beans, sprouted adzuki beans, sprouted lentils, sprouted millet, sprouted quinoa, sprouted amaranth, sprouted peas = carbs.
    How do you eat these?

    I tried eating sprouted mung beans raw today (blended) and I almost threw up .

    I'm guessing they have to be mixed with something - should I look up some recipes?
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    Unfortunately they are an acquired taste, but it's better to stick it out for a few weeks until your taste buds adjust then to always be mixing different foods to try to make it taste appealing. If you eat lots of green sprouts and also take algae and sea vegetables, your taste buds will change in a matter of weeks and you'll be able to handle anything. It is an important thing to do, because the most nutritious foods of the planet frequently taste unpleasant, and you don't want to miss out just because you're a slave to your taste buds.

    When I first started using algae, it tasted pretty nasty to me; now I love the taste. It's the same with sprouts.

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    Unfortunately they are an acquired taste, but it's better to stick it out for a few weeks until your taste buds adjust then to always be mixing different foods to try to make it taste appealing. If you eat lots of green sprouts and also take algae and sea vegetables, your taste buds will change in a matter of weeks and you'll be able to handle anything. It is an important thing to do, because the most nutritious foods of the planet frequently taste unpleasant, and you don't want to miss out just because you're a slave to your taste buds.

    When I first started using algae, it tasted pretty nasty to me; now I love the taste. It's the same with sprouts.
    Does any of the sprouted foods you listed have acceptable taste for a raw-er in transit? (or atleast, which is the most acceptable for a raw foodist in transit)

    How do you suggest to get adapted to the taste? Should I eat it every day, increasing the dose every day?

    Cause currently, trying that mixed sprouted mung beans terrifies me. But I did buy everything you listed above so I guess something else MUST be better then mung beans.

    Also, how do you eat your mung beans? Alone & blended, or do you not blend/mix them?
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    dnizetic, I started eating sprouted oats. Get some organic "oat groats" soak them in water for 12 hours, drain them and let them sit for 12 hours and then enjoy. You can add something sweet to them, raw honey, raw agave, blended dates, raisins, etc. I personally eat them with raw coconut nectar and craisins. I call it "groat meal".

    I'm thinking about trying sprouted wheat berries, rye berries, etc.

    I think grains get a bad wrap.

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    Mung bean sprouts are very mild tasting these are the bean sprouts you see in the store. They go bad very easily so I hope you didn't knaw on a bad batch.

    Sprouts can be wrapped with carrots, avacado in raw nori for some sushi. I dip in braggs amino's with sesame oil. Yummy. I love sprouts.


    Quote Originally Posted by dnizetic View Post
    How do you eat these?

    I tried eating sprouted mung beans raw today (blended) and I almost threw up .

    I'm guessing they have to be mixed with something - should I look up some recipes?
    Tracey

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    Quote Originally Posted by dnizetic View Post
    How do you eat these?

    I tried eating sprouted mung beans raw today (blended) and I almost threw up .

    I'm guessing they have to be mixed with something - should I look up some recipes?
    I'm really starting to enjoy sprouted peas. I do a 24 hour soak then start eating them after the next soak. I try to soak only enough so that I am munching on them for 2 or 3 days. My dog likes them as a treat too!

    Plus, at 50 cents a lb. peas are the cheapest thing on my diet!

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    I am low fat and I also need 2000 calories and I get the most of it from fruit. Melons, mangoes and bananas being my staples. I do not do any beans or grains.
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    This is a typical day for me and is 1936 calories and 100% of minerals and vits.

    Persimmons, japanese, raw 700 g 490.0
    Bananas, raw 750 g 667.5
    Celery, raw 380 g 60.8
    Lettuce, cos or romaine, raw 610 g 69.7
    Mangos, raw 1005 g 603.0

    Actually this is not a typical day as there are no melons listed.
    Last edited by sport; 10-11-2012 at 12:44 PM.
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