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    Default Do centrifugal juicers destroy enzymes? NO THEY DO NOT!!

    This is a popular misconception yet there is absolutely no scientific evidence to prove this claim. There is however scientific evidence that the juice from a centrifugal juicer has good enzyme activity in research published by Michael Donaldson PhD. Claims are made that the high speeds of centrifugal juicers destroy enzymes with the heat caused by friction.

    Firstly, heat caused by friction depends on a lot more than just speed and secondly to destroy the enzymes in juice it would have to be heated well above blood temperature. No juicer produces juice that has been heated to this level.

    The juice from a centrifugal juicer may be slightly less abundant in nutrients than that from a masticating juicer but it is still excellent quality, so don't be scared into spending a lot of money by this piece of pseudo-science. A great example of an easy to use centrifugal whole fruit juicer is the L'Equip XL Juicer. Machines like this can take apples whole and are very convenient in a busy home – and they DON’T destroy enzymes.

    http://ukjuicers.hubpages.com/hub/Myths-about-Juicers

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    Nice sentiment, on the one hand, but on the other, I wasn't aware that those who frown upon centrifugal juicers are concerned only about enzyme levels -

    how about the potential for greater introduction of damaging oxygen to the juice during the centrifugal juicing process?

    How about centrifugal juicers being unsuitable for juicing leafy greens (arguably the most nutritious raw material for juicing)?

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    Oh never mind. I've tried to present the truth before too, and people don't want to believe it.
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    I think that what is interesting here is that in this article (if I can call it that) it doesn't give any scientific studies or tests LOL So it's just another "if it's on the internet it must be true" statements.

    Bottom line: make juice in a centrifugal, then make it in a champion, and then in a greenstar. Taste all three... tell me which one is the most beautiful juice (clarity) and which one tastes the cleanest and freshest.

    It's the greenstar. I've done this.

    Centrifugal juicers make juice... but compared to the auger, twin gear, and/or masticating juicers they really just make juice flavoured liquid. LOL (kinda like the difference between koolaid and real juice)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aleesha Sattva View Post
    Centrifugal juicers make juice... but compared to the auger, twin gear, and/or masticating juicers they really just make juice flavoured liquid. LOL (kinda like the difference between koolaid and real juice)
    I am in complete agreement!! :) I used to use a cheepo centrifugal to juice as that's what I had. It was great as it's all I knew. Then I spent some time fasting and stepped up to the Champion. At first the juice seemed strange because it was thicker and had more pulp - it was just better juice :) This weekend I went and bought an Omega Vert (like a Greenstar from what I can tell) and HOLY CATFISH BATMAN - the juice is incredible!!!!

    To each his/her own juicer and juice for his/her own reasons. Juicing is amazing!

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    Totally what Shine and Aleesha said. My Omega was in the shop and I bought a centrifuge one to get through. The juice did not even remotely taste as good. I gave it away and waited to get my Omega back.
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    I use to own a breville juicer ($250) and used it daily for 6 months until i starting learning more about raw! Then i purchased a vitamix and couldn't be more happier. I also own a manual juicer for my wheatgrass. I will never go back to a centrifugal juicer.
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    I don't have much time. I also have a Breville and love it. I am getting nutritious food into my body. It works well for me I don't have time to chop things into tiny pieces. I get wonderful green juices everytime. I don't want newbies to be discouraged from juicing since centrifugal is all they can afford. Centrifugals works great...... Enjoy your juice however you make it.
    Tracey

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    Quote Originally Posted by Traceyraw View Post
    I don't have much time. I also have a Breville and love it. I am getting nutritious food into my body. It works well for me I don't have time to chop things into tiny pieces. I get wonderful green juices everytime. I don't want newbies to be discouraged from juicing since centrifugal is all they can afford. Centrifugals works great...... Enjoy your juice however you make it.
    I agree you make the best of what you have. All is good.
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    I think everyone understands the more expensive machines make better juice. The point I think was trying to be made is the disadvantage of a centrifugal juicer aren't as great as is made out - it does produce more froth, a little more heat maybe, but really how much of the nutrition is being destroyed? Juice gets oxygenated the moment it's exposed to air, so what's the big deal?

    The advantages are not so much from how much you spend but the change in eating habits, quality of produce, and lifestyle.

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    the best juice I have made so far is with my wine press. It makes the best juice and the least mess :)
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    Bottom line... when you use a masticating juicer you use way less produce and so the machine very quickly pays for itself. The juice tastes better, lasts longer (and if you are fasting and want to make juice in the morning to take to work that's a very important factor) and so a good quality juicer can be worth it's weight in gold!

    If you are juicing once a week to make a nice juice with Sunday breakfast... that's entirely different.

    I always find it interesting that often people make statements about juicing (in particular) and don't have any real experience behind their claims. Have they even used different types of juicers? Have they tasted the difference?

    Why put some beautiful organic greens into a juicer only to find it shredded in chunks in the pulp tray? I prefer to spend money on that produce and then get as much juice out of it as possible and with my Greenstar and Champion, I do. (moreso with the Greenstar) - Pulp is dry and very very very broken down.
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    My wine press method is similar to a masticating method. It makes better juice than my hand crank masticating one. I'm sure a green star or similar would be really good but no electricity makes it tricky at home. The next question will be whether to buy a masticating one to use at work.
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    I use a centrifugal juicer and I've heard the claims that it kills enzymes and that may or may not be true to a degree, I don't know. But, I do know that in the year and half that I've been juicing regularly with mine, it has cleared up my acne, makes my skin glow like crazy whether I'm eating a raw diet or not and gives me a boost of energy in the morning that lasts all day that's 10x more powerful then strong coffee so it can't be all that bad in my humble opinion.

    My mom owns the $2,500 norwalk juicer which is supposed to be one of the best ones out there and I personally notice no difference in the taste between the juice from that juicer and my jack lalanne. In fact, my mom prefers just using her jack lalanne too. There may be some drawbacks to a centrifugal, but I don't think they're as pronounced as some claim. Plus, a centrifugal is all many people can afford I know I'm way better off juicing with one over not juicing at all because it's the only juicer I had.

    I will agree that it's not the best for leafy greens (yield-wise) and it may not create juice that's as nutrient dense as other juicers can, but I still believe it derives very beneficial juice because the benefits of juicing are still there. I'm no expert of course, but I personally wouldn't be surprised if this article is accurate.
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    You both notice no difference in the taste?

    Then a norwalk must not be all that it *sarcastic tones* cause I can taste the difference between a cheapo Jack and a Champion. I can taste the difference between my Champion and my Greenstar...

    We all know that juicing is good for you, that's not the question. If all you have is a centrifugal then yes it's better than not having any juice but to say it's equal.... That's like saying McD is equal to Alissa's *insert any recipe here* LOL
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