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    Quote Originally Posted by Living Food View Post
    We need to go back to the old system of small family farms growing a multitude of different crops, rather then a single farmer growing thousands of acres of 2 or 3 different crops. Unfortunately those crops are subsidized by the government. Think about the fact that just about all GM crops are heavily subsidized and virtually no non-GM foods are. And naturally the "Farm Bill" has been changed to support massive industrialized farms rather then the small farms it was designed to protect. The whole system is rigged.



    Azure Standard has great prices, alfalfa being one exception.

    Sunflowers and peas are dirt cheap and produce some of the most nutritious microgreens there are. Even just having a tray of those two, plus wheatgrass or a different cereal grass 5 times a week costs very little. The price is amazing when you consider the nutrition they have, and how expensive it would be to instead eat that much store-bought produce which is sorely lacking in vital nutrients.

    Lentils and mung beans don't need to be too concentrated in nutrients, the green sprouts above will give you plenty. The important thing is that lentil and mung bean sprouts have vital life energy (or chi, electromagnetic vibration, whatever you want to call it) and mung bean sprouts, at least, have amazingly potent hormones called "auxinons" which have very powerful anti-aging effects. There are thousands of nutrients not identified by science, don't be fooled by only looking at the vitamins or minerals. Unique phytonutrients, oxygen, hormones, electromagnetic vibration, the list goes on and on.



    Yes.



    Also, smaller seeds like alfalfa and fenugreek produce much more foo when sprouted then do larger seeds like peas and sunflowers, so the higher cost is artificial. If you go through and actually determine the yield you can get from each seeds, you will find that higher prices do not always mean lower value. Chia, for example, is far more expensive then wheat. However, due to the tiny size of the seeds, a pound of chia will give you many times the amount of juice that a pound of wheat will. You can get a 8 oz of juice from just 2 tablespoons of chia seed, whereas 8 oz of wheatgrass juice requires roughly 1.5 CUPS of wheat berries. Do the math.

    Don't forget weeds. They're completely free and loaded with nutrients, and if you're vigilant you can also collect their seeds and get free sprouts as well.
    I was excited about learning about weeds but then I realized I live in the middle of the city and there are no quality weeds anywhere. Besides I would look weird walking around trying to find the weeds growing in the cracks of cement. I live in an apartment. Every piece of land is owned.
    Also don't the weeds absorb much more toxins?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Living Food View Post
    YES! I'm in complete agreement. Why settle for inferior store-bought produce anyway when you can pick the finest greens right from the ground and eat them within minutes? The best things in life really are free :)

    And when things like pea sprouts, sunflower greens and wheatgrass (way way above store-bought veggies, it would be insulting them to even be put in the same class of food) cost just pennies on the dollar, why in the world would you buy some half-dead wilted greens grown in mineral-deficient soil and picked so long ago that half of the few nutrients they started with have been lost, as well as the very important vibration? People will do crazy things to waste their money on inferior food.
    Simply because they don't know any better.

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    Also don't the weeds absorb much more toxins?
    Yes. You have to be careful of that if you are living in a very populated area.



    Life is too good when you eat the sprouts, algaes, grasses and weeds to even consider eating second or third-rate foods like store-bought fruit and veggies. Even veggies grown in your own garden and eaten within minutes of being picked can't compare.

    I am so glad I fond this lifestyle, life was so dull and boring before - and I didn't even realize it until I learned just how amazing it could be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Non View Post
    I was excited about learning about weeds but then I realized I live in the middle of the city and there are no quality weeds anywhere. Besides I would look weird walking around trying to find the weeds growing in the cracks of cement. I live in an apartment. Every piece of land is owned.
    Also don't the weeds absorb much more toxins?
    We talk about a lot of options here to help people figure out how to do the best they can where they are! Also you don't need to stay in an apartment or in the middle of the city forever if you don't want to. Most people have some options.

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    Quote Originally Posted by delmar View Post
    We talk about a lot of options here to help people figure out how to do the best they can where they are! Also you don't need to stay in an apartment or in the middle of the city forever if you don't want to. Most people have some options.
    Uhm.. with as little money as I can make I don't think it's possible.

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    You may have to think a lot more laterally to find a solution. The less you earn/more debt you have the harder it will be.

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    Chestnut trees all over Europe are all being killed by a specific species of moth and a specific type of bacteria, both of which suddenly became rampant at the same time "without any clear reason." And they work synergestically - many trees would survive one or the other, but both combined are lethal to them. What a coincidence...who in the world could be behind this?

    It's not just our ability to grow food that's being targeted, any source of food outside of big industrialized GM farms is fair game.

    http://www.mail.com/scitech/news/154...age-subhero1-4

    The recent blights of various plants are no more natural then the "superbugs" that have been suddenly appearing all over the world.
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    Horse chestnut not sweet chestnut.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Non View Post
    Uhm.. with as little money as I can make I don't think it's possible.
    I'm thinking we should talk about which goals exactly you consider not to be possible on your income level.

    Sprouting wild seeds in an apartment setting?

    Not living in an apartment?

    Not living in the city?

    I am wondering if it would not be more correct to say that some of these things are not possible without making trade offs that you are not comfortable with. If I understand correctly, we have one active member who does not live in a house (near as I can tell lives in a van) and does not have electricity so that she is able to afford a plot of ground outside of the city. This is not something everybody would do, but it is something most could do.

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    I love how badly the word caravan translates from English/English to American/English. We are getting a larger caravan soon. It might equate to the American word trailer. We will still have no electricity but I have big plans for solar. There will be a woodburner to get us through the winter with our extremities in tact! It is secondhand so it's carbon footprint will be made to stretch further so we won't be causing a new one to be built. I planted up a small fig tree and 4 tiny honeyberry plants today and set out a herb bed. We have an urban site about 300 feet long by 25 feet wide. He width varies coz one edge is a river bank. It's been a wonderful time since the start of April discovering how much pleasure there is to be had from such a simple lifestyle. We aren't so far from the real world either. About 2 miles from the town centre and a farmers' market ever week about 1 mile away. The main downside is the noise and pollution from the road that runs along the long edge. The cat and dogs have never been happier and hens have a nice lot of space too. Next year we hope to get some bees and a polytunnel.

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    Horse chestnut not sweet chestnut.
    Good point. But horse chestnut extract has medicinal properties...

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    A lot of people are reacting simply by felling these trees when the trees are just "unsightly". They could be left and might even recover.

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    So I misunderstood. In the US, this is a Dodge Caravan



    Google tells me that, what we can a recreational vehicle, is a caravan in the UK



    My point stands. Not everybody is willing to live in an RV but most people could afford to purchase a modest one, instead of renting an apartment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by delmar View Post
    So I misunderstood. In the US, this is a Dodge CaravanGoogle tells me that, what we can a recreational vehicle, is a caravan in the UKMy point stands. Not everybody is willing to live in an RV but most people could afford to purchase a modest one, instead of renting an apartment.
    hehehe. The one we have at the moment is nothing like that. About half the size and very tatty. Cost us £100.00 (used) so that might give you an idea just how tatty it is. She has kept us dry though.
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    This is more like it and about the right age so you can imagine how it might look now some 20 odd years after it was made!
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