An important reason why we need to sprout wild seeds - the future of raw is doomed

[MysticTree]

Lol. You're ok. Not a best friend but an alright human nonetheless ;). Trouble is with the not alright humans who run the world.

[delmar]

You may think that is an extreme title, but nothing could be further from the truth, and i've been meaning to post this for 12 months. This thread is so important that l got out of bed to make this. In 2009 there was a bill put to U.S parliament

There is no U.S parliament.

called the Farm Bill S510 Food Safety Modernization Act. This act would effectively give the U.S government the power to outlaw all small farms and growing fruit and vegetable gardens in all backyards without a special licence. The real purpose of the bill was give complete power to Monsanto by only allowing large farms to be the only farms allowed to exist. The reason for this is so the large farms are forced to buy GM seeds from [mainly] Monsanto and about four or five other major GM seed businesses. Well, the bill failed this time, but rest assured, IT WILL HAPPEN AGAIN SOON!!! Monsanto will bribe some of the heads of the U.S government to introduce the bill and have it passed by giving Congress only half a day to vote on a 1,000+ page bill, but naturally the senators won't have the time to read it so the top politicians will lie to them about what's in the bill and say it's for the good of mankind, so they will vote it in. But next time when they introduce the bill they will be smarter about it...they will introduce it at Christmas time when most people are on holidays (parliament always does that when they want a bill against the publics interest introduced) and they will pass it without no public knowledge.

If you don't believe me, listen to this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Gx5CjUD3-E

And if you don't believe that, here is the 1,000+ page bill. Pay close attention to section 3 which is the definitions portion of the bill. Also read section 103, 206 and 207s completely.
http://www.opencongress.org/bill/111-h875/text

Here is a short blog which explains the bill:
http://www.campaignforliberty.com/blog.php?view=12671

That's why l have now started looking to nature for my food, because the time is soon coming where all our fruit, vegies and sprouts will be GM, and that is when planes fly over and scan the farms and backyards for any gardens so the authorities can destroy them. The algaes will also be a thing of the past if Codex is implemented globally.



And when it happens in the U.S, it will happen all over the world because Monsanto wants to sell GM seed to all the world.

Just an quick note on organic foods i've been meaning to post for ages:
“"Organic" food is no longer safe. The FDA and USDA have colluded in approving the neurotoxin 'Neotame' which may be even more toxic than aspartame. No labeling will be required, nor will it be listed in the ingredients. It will be used in USDA certified "organic" processed food and cattle feed. [The only hope of escape is to raise our own food or buy from local growers who do not use such chemicals – which is why Congress recently passed legislation that eventually will put small-scale organic growers out of business.] FarmWars 2010 Dec 31”
http://www.realityzone.com/saveandprint.html

This is only the start of watering down of organic, so now the time has come to start sprouting wild weed seeds...that's the only way we will be able to consume healthy food in the future.

I think I am a little less conspiracy minded than you are, though I have been advocating seed saving for a while now.

[MysticTree]

There is no U.S parliament.I think I am a little less conspiracy minded than you are, though I have been advocating seed saving for a while now.

seed saving is very sensible. It's how our parents, grandparents etc gardened.

[Living Food]

Living food, I don't watch television.

That comment wasn't directed at you but at everyone reading this thread in general. I know it can be confusing since I quoted you, but generally I speak to everyone in general unless I talk to someone by name, or quote something and then ask a question about it.

Some of my best friends are human!

Come now. You know you think I'm pretty cool

Lol, you made me laugh there.

There is no U.S parliament.

I'm sure he meant Congress.

seed saving is very sensible

Even if I knew there would always be abundant food I would still collect adn sprout wildseeds, they're generally much more nutritious then conventional crops anyway.

I see wars over oil. War over money. Alternative news sources don't change this greed among the rich and powerful. We can only do the right thing because it is the right thing not because it will change the way greedy people behave.

But if everyone who wasn't one of those greedy few did the right thing, there wouldn't be a greedy few. "United we stand, divided we fall".

Again, everything that is happening is happening for a reason, even if we don't like it. If there wasn't adversity in the world it would be hard to improve ourselves, nor would we have anything to strive for or motivate us; if there wasn't suffering we wouldn't feel compassion, or be motivated to help others, etc etc. It can be hard to understand why suffering is necessary if you think that all we get is one short life on Earth, when in reality Earthly suffering is just a tiny nanosecond in the span of our true lives. But just ignore that I said that, Mystic, and focus on the other stuff I said in this paragraph.

As for not being able to change the way greedy people behave - "Never doubt that a small group of dedicated people cannot change the world - in fact, it's the only thing that ever has".

The price of food is set to rise. The price of simple things like straw bedding for my hens is going to rise. I don't need media to tell me these things. I just see crops rotting in the fields or only half harvested. Straw lying wet in the fields because we had the wettest summer.

Read above.

Even though you probably don't agree, the Earth is like a school, and we're the pupils. Yes, sometimes the students do naughty things or maybe vandalize some school property, but if they didn't exist then there would be no reason to have a school. And we come out more knowledgable and better people* for having experienced adversity and suffering, greed and violence, etc. We can each overcome ANY obstacle put in our path, if you put your mind to it there is LITERALLY nothing oyu can do - all of these things we have to overcome are just there to teach us this fact. You'd never no what you can do unless you were forced to do it. You can't see the power of a river if it's allowed to flow unblocked, but put an obstacle in the way (a dam) and you will see the massive power that the river has.

* the point where the school analogy breaks down, the public school system these days mostly teaches falsehoods and lies (not that the teachers know that, as always only a few are responsible and all of the rest are unwitting dupes), orients your brain to be more dependent on others and makes you more obedient, and emphasizes the left-brain almost exclusively over the right brain, and there are many more flaws too. But don't focus on that, focus on what I said above.

Raw Angel Mom: I agree completely.

[The Sproutarian (Mr Raw)]

Mankind is evolving and will be a better race in the future. There is a changing consciousness...that is really what the whole 2012 issue is about anyway. We can be the change now...its all about each individual and what they put forth.

l tend to see things this way too, but then again, we are now supposed to be living in the 6th or 7th age, which means, mankind has been wiped out before many times and restarted by alien civilisations. We are all alien by nature. Mankind is really supposed to have been on Earth for 1 million years, and previous evidence of a long lost age was the Pyramids which had air planes and helicopters etched into the them over 40,000 years ago [as discovered by real scientists]. The Egyptians never built the pyramids, they found the pyramids. The fact that there were air planes etc etched into the pyramids shows strong argument that we were once a very advanced civilisation, but we got wiped out. History is not telling us everything, and if you think carefully you will smell a rat. ln all the billions of years the Earth has been around, we are told that modern man is only a very recent thing to develop, really? The Earth is a thriving place, and l think it highly unlikely that alien races would have ignored the Earth for so long. Of course advanced life has been here for a much longer time, but the plutocrats don't want us to know our true history, because if we do know our true history all the major organisations of the world that control us will break down and the people gain power.

Our consciousness will rise and all this will stop one day, but is now the time, or will we be wiped out again and again before we eventually stop the killing and raise our consciousness. The higher powers haven't stopped us from being wiped out before, and maybe they won't again. Most of the world eats flesh foods and has negative emmotions towards other people, and with that everyone on the Earth takes of the dark karma and lower vibrations of the environment in which we all live, so l think food supply issue is just another karma issue until we all wake up.

The biggest issue is not dying, the biggest issue is lowering our consciousness so we can't evolve and pass over to very high realms when we die. l think that is the ultimate plan by the plutocrats. The plutocrats and 13 families know they are going to lower level existances when they die because they have been corrupted by power and money, so they will also try and keep us from reaching higher realms also, that's why they put flouride in the water (effects the pineal gland) and put other toxins in the food supply and introduce GM foods among many other reasons = to keep us spiritually bankrupt and unable to work out what's is really going on. lf the plutocrats can't reach higher level worlds after physical death then why should us slaves be allowed to do so, that's the way they think about it. Those people are in touch with the dark higher powers, so they are aware of how the afterlife works, and they were selected by God to be this way because we have karma to learn from. The dark powers also come from the heavenly realms. These plutocrats aren't really bad people, they were selected by the good higher powers to play a role to teach us, that's why they won't stop this bad stuff from happening or wake up and stop the corruption, IT NEEDS TO HAPPEN. And if you think the dark powers don't exist, l can tell you with 100% certainty that they do.

[michigan roman]

washed up low life ruling class trying to scare people , but theyre soon OUTTA HERE

along with their punk new world order hordes


like vegetarian mma fighter george st peirre says : winners see what they want , losers see what they dont want . dont let the game eat you , you eat the game !

[walnutty]

all of my best friends are animals

Mine too!

[MysticTree]

Mine too!

You know where you are with an animal ...

[MysticTree]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/global-development/2012/aug/26/food-shortages-world-vegetarianism

This is an interesting article in one of our left-wing newspapers.

[The Sproutarian (Mr Raw)]

Just an quick note on organic foods i've been meaning to post for ages:
“"Organic" food is no longer safe. The FDA and USDA have colluded in approving the neurotoxin 'Neotame' which may be even more toxic than aspartame. No labeling will be required, nor will it be listed in the ingredients. It will be used in USDA certified "organic" processed food and cattle feed. [The only hope of escape is to raise our own food or buy from local growers who do not use such chemicals – which is why Congress recently passed legislation that eventually will put small-scale organic growers out of business.] FarmWars 2010 Dec 31”
http://www.realityzone.com/saveandprint.html

This is only the start of watering down of organic, so now the time has come to start sprouting wild weed seeds...that's the only way we will be able to consume healthy food in the future.

And according to the brilliant well researched book `Supplements exposed' by Dr Brian Clement, 70% of packaged organic foods now use GM ingredients.

[The Sproutarian (Mr Raw)]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/global-development/2012/aug/26/food-shortages-world-vegetarianism

This is an interesting article in one of our left-wing newspapers.

The only way to solve the food problem is to start eating plant foods. lt's common sense, but here is a link which should make people think:
http://suprememastertv.com/animal-production/

[SunshineMN]

Didn't I hear that Obama appointed a Monsanto lobbyist to the head of the FDA recently? I really don't trust any government.

[delmar]

Didn't I hear that Obama appointed a Monsanto lobbyist to the head of the FDA recently? I really don't trust any government.

I can't argue with that. Sometimes I feel like there is no candidate that I am willing to vote for, that could ever be elected.

[MysticTree]

I can't argue with that. Sometimes I feel like there is no candidate that I am willing to vote for, that could ever be elected.

I always feel that way even with having the Green Party as an option. I don't feel they are strong politically but they are my best option other than tactical and really they are all the same sort of wolves wearing different party allegiances.

[Living Food]

Didn't I hear that Obama appointed a Monsanto lobbyist to the head of the FDA recently? I really don't trust any government.

And our secretary of Agriculture is a huge proponent of GM foods...hmmm...maybe it has to do with all of the money he gets from the biotech companies...*scratches head*

Sometimes I feel like there is no candidate that I am willing to vote for, that could ever be elected.

Sadly most any candidate that reaches a high level of power is completely corrupt, that's the way the game works. And elections are rigged anyway.

The difference between the mainstream parties is really all semantics to keep people blind as to what's really going on. When is the last time a politician actually did what they said they would be if they got elected? These peple will lie through their teeth to tell you whatever they think will get them elected, but naturally they have no intention of actually doing those things. They're all a bunch of crooks, and they get paid off very well by other crooks to screw us over - we'll never win by working within the system, it's set up that way, we need to leave it.