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    Default An important reason why we need to sprout wild seeds - the future of raw is doomed

    You may think that is an extreme title, but nothing could be further from the truth, and i've been meaning to post this for 12 months. This thread is so important that l got out of bed to make this. In 2009 there was a bill put to U.S parliament called the Farm Bill S510 Food Safety Modernization Act. This act would effectively give the U.S government the power to outlaw all small farms and growing fruit and vegetable gardens in all backyards without a special licence. The real purpose of the bill was give complete power to Monsanto by only allowing large farms to be the only farms allowed to exist. The reason for this is so the large farms are forced to buy GM seeds from [mainly] Monsanto and about four or five other major GM seed businesses. Well, the bill failed this time, but rest assured, IT WILL HAPPEN AGAIN SOON!!! Monsanto will bribe some of the heads of the U.S government to introduce the bill and have it passed by giving Congress only half a day to vote on a 1,000+ page bill, but naturally the senators won't have the time to read it so the top politicians will lie to them about what's in the bill and say it's for the good of mankind, so they will vote it in. But next time when they introduce the bill they will be smarter about it...they will introduce it at Christmas time when most people are on holidays (parliament always does that when they want a bill against the publics interest introduced) and they will pass it without no public knowledge.

    If you don't believe me, listen to this:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Gx5CjUD3-E

    And if you don't believe that, here is the 1,000+ page bill. Pay close attention to section 3 which is the definitions portion of the bill. Also read section 103, 206 and 207s completely.
    http://www.opencongress.org/bill/111-h875/text

    Here is a short blog which explains the bill:
    http://www.campaignforliberty.com/blog.php?view=12671

    That's why l have now started looking to nature for my food, because the time is soon coming where all our fruit, vegies and sprouts will be GM, and that is when planes fly over and scan the farms and backyards for any gardens so the authorities can destroy them. The algaes will also be a thing of the past if Codex is implemented globally.



    And when it happens in the U.S, it will happen all over the world because Monsanto wants to sell GM seed to all the world.

    Just an quick note on organic foods i've been meaning to post for ages:
    “"Organic" food is no longer safe. The FDA and USDA have colluded in approving the neurotoxin 'Neotame' which may be even more toxic than aspartame. No labeling will be required, nor will it be listed in the ingredients. It will be used in USDA certified "organic" processed food and cattle feed. [The only hope of escape is to raise our own food or buy from local growers who do not use such chemicals – which is why Congress recently passed legislation that eventually will put small-scale organic growers out of business.] FarmWars 2010 Dec 31”
    http://www.realityzone.com/saveandprint.html

    This is only the start of watering down of organic, so now the time has come to start sprouting wild weed seeds...that's the only way we will be able to consume healthy food in the future.
    Last edited by The Sproutarian (Mr Raw); 08-27-2012 at 01:17 PM.

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    I think the sooner mankind is wiped out the better. Maybe we should embracing the bad food to speed that future along. Mankind is the least positive thing to walk the earth. God speed the rook.

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    I think the sooner mankind is wiped out the better. Maybe we should embracing the bad food to speed that future along. Mankind is the least positive thing to walk the earth.
    That's a very negative view. Yes, as a race we have done terrible things, and continue to do so, but all we have to do is all focus on self-improvement and eventually every human will be an amazing being.

    If we all eat bad food we will just become worse and worse, if everyone ate sprouts and juiced lots of sprouts we wouldn't have this problem, but everyone has to learn on their own.

    It's because of things like bad food and many dozens of other negative influences which I won't list right now that the majority of mankind is in such a low state spiritually that we do these horrible things.

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    It's not negative to want positive things for the earth. You don't say that the original post is a negative outlook.

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    Mankind is evolving and will be a better race in the future. There is a changing consciousness...that is really what the whole 2012 issue is about anyway. We can be the change now...its all about each individual and what they put forth.

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    Mankind is evolving and will be a better race in the future. There is a changing consciousness...that is really what the whole 2012 issue is about anyway. We can be the change now...its all about each individual and what they put forth.
    Exactly.

    It's not negative to want positive things for the earth.
    Us dying off really wouldn't be positive for the Earth, but I can only explain that by talking about lots of spiritual stuff that you wouldn't believe anyway, so I'll pass.

    You don't say that the original post is a negative outlook.
    Information is information, not inherently negative or positive (although it may have positive or negative implications). What Mr Raw is saying about certain people wanting to make all food GM and prevent people from growing food is true. I don't believe that they will suceed, so maybe you could say it's a negative outlook to think that they will. But the information itself is true.

    You saying that you essentially want mankind to be wiped out IS negative, and maybe a little disturbing... (just joking with you about the disturbing part).
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    And when it happens in the U.S, it will happen all over the world because Monsanto wants to sell GM seed to all the world.
    That's what the "Green Revolution" was all about. Most of the "charity" being given to third world countries in the form of crops is really just forcing them to eat GM food, and eliminating their traditional foods, and small farmers all of the agriculture in those countries becomes centralized and industrialized, just like what is being forced upon the rest of the world.

    That's the goal, at any rate, but people are starting to wake up and buy local + organic (so now they're co-opting organic, like Mr Raw said, but they'll never suceed in co-opting local, organic food) and there have been multiple efforts to label GM foods recently, all of which have failed due to bribes or threats from biotech companies, but even if such a law won't be passed by our politicians (it almost certainly won't), a grass-roots movement has already been born and individual people are starting to resist this agenda. The "masses" still have a lot of waking up to do, but eventually we will prevail.

    The real problem is centralization, because that has put all of the power in people who don't care about much of anything but money and power, but the evil few will always be outweighed by the good majority - hence all of the distractions, toxic foods, propaganda + brainwashing, etc that are serving to keep the average person completely clueless as to what's happening, and completely powerless to stop it. It's an awesome arrangement - feed us toxic food that makes us sick, then when we get sick all of our money is bled dry by the absurdly expensive and mostly useless healthcare industry (and they give us drugs that make us sicker), and tax us to take away what little money we might have left, etc etc. There's so much more to it, but I'll stop there - I'm sure you get the point. The whole system is intended to keep us powerless, but all we have to do is go back to a local and decentralized system. A barter economy, for example, in addition to growing all of the food you need and making everyhitng you need locally - really not that hard, it was the norm a couple centuries ago - would make a community completely self-sufficient and if the whole world became like that we'd be out of this mess.
    Last edited by Living Food; 08-27-2012 at 04:23 PM. Reason: typos, typos, typos galore - this keyboard stinks :)

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    The future of raw food is doomed is not a positive statement. It is not information. It is opinion. Meantime my view is negative and the OP's isn't. The earth will manage much better without mankind who show no signs of evolving to be much better as far as I can see. A few want to live more responsibly but when push comes to shove those will be the ones who are crushed by the powerful who won't realise that by crushing those who can take us forward responsibly they are sealing their own fate. We are entering a global food shortage at the moment according to the press over here. Allotment requests are soaring and people are being encouraged to grown their own food and suggest sites that can be used for allotments. If as OP suggests we will be slung in jail for growing our own food then how will sprouting weed seeds help? It's still growing your own food.

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    As I said in one of my above posts, maybe that is a negative view. I personally don't think that the few will suceed in their plans, Mr Raw does. I still respect his opinions, and yours.

    It is not information. It is opinion.
    Most of what he said is information, some is opinion.

    We are entering a global food shortage at the moment according to the press over here.
    Fear fear and more fear - best thing you can do is stop listening to the media + stop reading the newspapers, but most of all...STOP WATCHING TELEVISION!

    The earth will manage much better without mankind who show no signs of evolving to be much better as far as I can see.
    That's because you listen to the media, in reality we are making lots of progress but the mainstream media is controlled by "the few" and they wouldn't tell us positive information to save their lives, except for a couple of "heart-warming" stories in between hundreds of garbage and fear-based stories to make us think that they're not baised.

    A few want to live more responsibly but when push comes to shove those will be the ones who are crushed by the powerful
    It's happening everyday, but we're still making progress on every front. Yes sometimes it might seem like I (and Mr Raw) talk "doom and gloom", but actually that's the tool of those in power, we just realize that in order for people to properly be awakened they need to hear the negative aspect of what's going on as well as the positive, in reality everything that is happening is going exactly as it should be. BUT, you shouldn't go through life thinking everything is all rosy and not knowng anything that's going on, first you need to realize all of the evil that's happening, and the plan to keep us all essentially enslaved, then you can realize that despite that it is all as it should be and we are making progress and "winning".

    As for being thrown in jail for growing your own food, there are actually some stories I've seen of absurd cases just like that:

    http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j..._YY5CBu2JTdnEA, for example. There are many others, but I'm not gong to go searching for them right now.

    We'll talk more later.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MysticTree View Post
    The future of raw food is doomed is not a positive statement. It is not information. It is opinion. Meantime my view is negative and the OP's isn't. The earth will manage much better without mankind who show no signs of evolving to be much better as far as I can see. A few want to live more responsibly but when push comes to shove those will be the ones who are crushed by the powerful who won't realise that by crushing those who can take us forward responsibly they are sealing their own fate. We are entering a global food shortage at the moment according to the press over here. Allotment requests are soaring and people are being encouraged to grown their own food and suggest sites that can be used for allotments. If as OP suggests we will be slung in jail for growing our own food then how will sprouting weed seeds help? It's still growing your own food.
    This means we should try all the more to facilitate change. The news media is controlled by a few and they are spreading a message that makes us think as you do. I follow what is going on by subscribing to alternative sources of news and the change is happening...the regular media just does not want people to think so.

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    I see wars over oil. War over money. Alternative news sources don't change this greed among the rich and powerful. We can only do the right thing because it is the right thing not because it will change the way greedy people behave.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MysticTree View Post
    I think the sooner mankind is wiped out the better. Maybe we should embracing the bad food to speed that future along. Mankind is the least positive thing to walk the earth. God speed the rook.
    I love people! Some of my best friends are human!

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    Living food, I don't watch television. I don't have electricity. I sometimes think people just don't get either of those concepts. The price of food is set to rise. The price of simple things like straw bedding for my hens is going to rise. I don't need media to tell me these things. I just see crops rotting in the fields or only half harvested. Straw lying wet in the fields because we had the wettest summer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by delmar View Post
    I love people! Some of my best friends are human!
    all of my best friends are animals
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