what about honey?

[carrotlady]

Is it ok to use honey on a raw food diet. Im ready that some vegans donÂ’t use it?

carrotlady

[Kristi]

I use it. I get "really raw honey" at the co-op. I love it. Alissa's book has many recipes calling for honey.

[smasty]

I have read some conflicting info on honey. Federick Patenaude (sp?) claims in his book that honey causes accelerated tooth decay and advises rawists to stay away from it. I figure I don't eat that much of it, it's in a recipe maybe once a week for me. I use other sweeteners like agave nectar and dates to balance things out.

[suebee]

I eat honey. I have gone back and forth with this issue for years and im not convinced this is a bad vegan food.
Suebee

[smasty]

Suebee....your username is synonymous with Honey!! Do they still make SueBee honey? That's the honey I grew up with.

[suebee]

I know, i thought that was funny as i was answering this post!
I donÂ’t know, i only use raw now, but they probably do. I think thatÂ’s been around for years!
Suebee

[Kristi]

Here's a quote from Alissa's book:

RAW HONEY - Aids stomach & digestion. Is good for allergies, healing ulcers, burns, and has anti-cancer properties. Honey is an antiseptic, antiobiotic, antifunal, and antibacterial.

[marigold]

yeah i have gone back and forth with this over the years on a vegan angle and a raw angle..i use raw honey now based on the fact its an occasional thing...i am using raw bee pollen for the last month tool

[SwishTN]

bumpin it up...

[Curtis]

lol okay now Federick is really starting to get on my nerves. Does this man like anything that raw and living food people like?

[Veganmama]

From a Raw food perspective it would be ok as it is great for your body and health . But as a Vegan i don't use it for ethical reasons as vegan s don't use animal product at all.

[vegbaby]

I just want to add that for many people it's more than just the fact that bees get killed in the process or that many farmers kill off the whole lot of bees when winter comes and start up with a fresh lot in the spring...honey also attracts bears which sometimes necessitates traps or killing for the farmer to maintain a profit. That said, I live in Mongolia, so when I have agave nectar, I use it. When I don't, I use raw honey and don't beat myself up about it.

[tglasco4]

This question is interesting because of an incident that happened to me about 3 days ago. I was in a vegan/raw vegan chat room. I mentioned the banana-date-nut shake I make. Someone asked about what I put into it, I mentioned raw honey. There was a person in there, who, prior to this had been so nice and pleasant toward me. But when I mentioned raw honey, I mean the person completely went off. On a tirade that lasted about 10-15 minutes with others in the room attempting to change the subject. She felt that I was abusing bees and supporting their abuse by using honey. I had heard this sentiment before but never with so much anger attached to it. Honey is proven to be healthy. Raw honey is proven to be uncooked. As a raw vegan I choose this to consume. So if the question is about the healthiness of it, I think one can prove that to one's self by using it. I have found it to be very beneificial, but I don't use too much of it at once. It really gives energy. But I have found those who don't condone its use have other motives besides whether or not it is good for you. So if you believe you are harming bees in some way by using honey (a premise that I find ridiculous;but I stress that is my personal belief) then maybe you don't want to use it. Although I would advise that this would be your personal preference and choice and have nothing to do with what someone else may choose. If you don't subscribe to this theory, then raw honey is an excellent addition to the raw foodist's cabinet.

Peace.

Todd

[Veganmama]

I won't launch into a Tirade Todd ;) but i do believe it's harmful to the bee's it's just my personal belief and everyone is intitled to there own beliefs and i respet that but if anyone does want to know why please pm me and i can explain my reasoning :)

[tglasco4]

Now see veganmama,

I wish you were there 3 days ago. I tried to explain to the young lady that its a matter of person choice and conscience, but I felt like I was talking to someone I just committed a crime against. I respect all beliefs whether I agree with them or not. Because my belief states that everyone has that freedom to choose whatever they want to believe. I am glad you feel that way so that we can disagree without becoming disagreeable. See, I knew there was a reason I liked you :)

Peace.

Todd

I won't launch into a Tirade Todd ;) but i do believe it's harmful to the bee's it's just my personal belief and everyone is intitled to there own beliefs and i respet that but if anyone does want to know why please pm me and i can explain my reasoning :)