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    I'd rather eat vegan and look like a tree than eat cow and look like a pig.

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    What is Holosync?

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    Google it but in (very) short it's sound used to "facilitate" meditative states of mind. it seems to come with a high price, aggressive sales pitch and cultish band of followers.

    That Arky rates it highly leaves me in a dilemma; do I now think more of the programme or less of Arky lol.

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    I just heard Dan the life regenerator speak about vibrations. It was from his Aryvuda ??? Raw living foods have a natural energy vibration when we start taking in these high vibrating foods the toxins and things plugging our natural vibration start to work there way out "DETOX" . Made sense he goes into more detail on you tube. I thought it was interesting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MysticTree View Post
    Google it but in (very) short it's sound used to "facilitate" meditative states of mind. it seems to come with a high price, aggressive sales pitch and cultish band of followers.

    That Arky rates it highly leaves me in a dilemma; do I now think more of the programme or less of Arky lol.

    LOL! That's a much more ironic statement than you appear to realise, MysticTree!

    If anything has an aggressive sales pitch and a cultish band of followers it's raw veganism!

    Hey-ho.

    That aside, I'll address the concerns you raised, since I hope it should be fairly obvious to you that I'm not a 'cultish' kind of person - not about Holosync, and not about raw foods or veganism, or religion, or anything else for that matter. 'Cultish' is in the person, not in the product. All products, and indeed all philosophies, will draw people from a wide variety of backgrounds and with a wide variety of psychological dispositions. Some will have a disposition to follow cultishly, others will simply take what they find useful and not hold onto it any more tightly than that. To label the product as cultish is therefore putting the cart before the horse, so-to-speak.


    Sales pitch - well, it's marketed in a typically slick, American internet business kind of way, yes, but I'm not sure the term 'aggressive' is appropriate.

    Cost - this one I will fully agree with you about - Holosync is expensive. I do believe it should be 30-40% cheaper than it is. However, that is in terms of material value. In terms of the actual benefits one stands to gain from using the course of meditation soundtracks for a period of 7-10 years, it's an absolutely astounding bargain. I can say this because I've experienced it firsthand, over several years.

    The problem is that people who are considering the purchase do not have an understanding of the true power of structured binaural entrainment soundtracks. From a casual layperson's perspective, it looks like every man and his dog is selling a binaural meditation soundtrack of some sort, some very cheaply, and there is therefore a temptation to believe that it's all the same and that anything more expensive than the cheapest must be a dubious rip-off. It's natural to draw this conclusion, but it's unfortunately very misguided. I should also point out that many of the competitors who slate Holosync and market their own soundtracks as an alternative are hilariously rabid and hypocritical in their approach, often deliberately using the name 'Holosync' in their taglines in order to piggy-back on the traffic of the very product they claim to disdain! That should speak volumes in itself...

    Anyway, I am fortunate in that I didn't find Holosync (or the hypocritical, 'wannabe', competitors) and tangle with any marketing. Instead, it was recommended to me by someone whose opinion I respected. And I'm extremely glad I followed their recommendation.

    The key difference between Holosync and other binaural meditation soundtracks is that Bill Harris (the guy behind Holosync) has walked his talk for a great many years now; long before the internet took off, and he makes an extraordinary effort to support his customers, both personally and with a team of support staff, and, more than anyone else I've ever encountered in the industry, Bill actually understands what binaural entrainment does to the brain.
    It is not just about getting into a meditative state!



    Binaural soundtracks, over a period of months and years, accelerate a process of evolution of the neural structure of the brain which, for classically-trained meditators not using entrainment, usually takes several decades. But in order to accomplish this process of acceleration, the soundtracks must be precisely structured in a way that 'leads' the brain, over time, in a logical series of steps, to develop such changes.

    This gets really deep, and I am fully able to explain it, but I don't feel that's necessary here and now, in this reply (very basically-put, it's a case of inducing the brain to generate new connections between various areas of itself, particularly between various areas of the cortex, and across the corpus callosum, such that the brain behaves in a more synchronised and integrated manner. This greater degree of interconnectedness leads to agreater self-awareness of thought processes that were previously entirely subconscious. Additionally, the greater synchrony between the 2 hemispheres of the brain leads to a profound increase in calmness, and greater ease with which one can enter meditative brainwave patterns, even without listening to a soundtrack at that moment).


    I don't want to come off sounding like I'm a sales agent for Holosync, or that I'm 'cultish' about it, because I'm absolutely not (look how short and to the point my original remark was!). I simply know, from having been fortunate enough to use it, that it is an exceptionally useful and powerful tool that has improved my life tremendously. It's as simple as that. I don't worship it, I don't push it on others, I just acknowledge it and mention it to others if it seems they may benefit from it, too. I don't 'gain' anything from sharing that knowledge with others, any more than I gain anything from posting about anything else here on RFT (often in very detailed posts, thousands of words long). I simply like to help others, and if something has helped me, I like to share that fact with others in the hope that perhaps they, too, may experience some benefit.

    Anyone can take it or leave it. Personally, I'm very very glad I took it.

    All the best.
    Last edited by Arky; 09-30-2012 at 10:32 AM.

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    The good thing about raw is that you don't need to spend money on it to make it work for you- though goodness knows there are enough gurus out there trying to tell you otherwise! When I said meditative state I was talking very loosely of course and that you recommend it as oppose some others on RFT does make me pause for thought and I am sure I would enjoy - not necessarily the right word - using this programme but no means, either financial or electrical to try it.

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    Arky...thanks for the information. I googled it and checked it out. I am always trying to find time to meditate so this might be the thing for me. Since it requires headphones, do you know if the program can be copied on an MP3 player for easier listening? Or does that negate the effect?

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    Quote Originally Posted by laughalways View Post
    Since it requires headphones, do you know if the program can be copied on an MP3 player for easier listening? Or does that negate the effect?
    The answer to your question is both 'Yes' and 'No'

    Yes, you can rip the CDs to a portable player

    No, you can't get the full benefit from mp3s

    The solution?

    Find a portable player which is capable of playing at least one of the following file formats:

    .wav
    .pcm
    .aiff
    Apple LOSSLESS codec
    .flac
    .ape
    Monkey's Audio


    Thankfully, over the past couple of years, many manufacturers have begun catering for lossless and uncompressed file formats, partly on account of the fact that these file formats are larger and memory card capacities are getting larger all the time, to accommodate larger files.


    Examples of players which will play some of the above file formats are:

    Cowon J3
    Cowon D2
    Apple iPod touch (probably the newer nanos, too, but you'd need to check before buying)
    Apple iPod Classic
    iBasso DX100
    HifiMan 801
    HifiMan 901
    Be careful with Sony - some of them support only very limited file formats (MP3, Atrac etc., although the very latest high-end Sonys will play the LOSSLESS version of the Atrac codec, which is basically Sony's proprietary equivalent of Apple's LOSSLESS codec).

    Anyway, the point is that if you do it right, yes, you can happily play Holosync on a portable player without degrading the binaural and (optional) subliminal signals. I won't bore you with the technicalities on why compressed formats degrade the signal, but there are genuine technical reasons.

    If you have a particular player already, and you're not sure, just tell me the model number and I'll check for you. Any other questions, let me know.
    Last edited by Arky; 10-01-2012 at 05:53 PM.

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    Thanks for the information. I have an old iPod...probably close to the original. I have an iPhone4S...does that work? If I rip it with iTunes do I have to specify a different file format?

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    Quote Originally Posted by laughalways View Post
    Thanks for the information. I have an old iPod...probably close to the original. I have an iPhone4S...does that work? If I rip it with iTunes do I have to specify a different file format?

    An iPhone 4s is absolutely perfect. To rip Holosync for the iPhone, you'll need to choose 'Apple Lossless' in iTunes advanced ripping preferences (for the lossless codec, the bitrate is automatic). You'll need a decent pair of earphones, too. They don't need to be expensive, they just need to have a respectable bass response, that's all.

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    Wow....that is very helpful. Thanks for your advise. You are very knowledgeable about so many topics!

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    It certainly doesn't mean I'm bright - it just means I found myself in many situations where I needed to learn, and was simply willing to do the necessary self-directed learning to overcome or adapt to them! ;-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by MysticTree View Post
    Listening to the rain is a good alternative Holosync - so I am told - much cheaper too and suitable for those of us without electricity. Not so helpful perhaps if you live in a drought-stricken place of course ;)
    Love nature and listening to the rain, is one of my favorite. I love waking up and hearing the rain, so suiting, lol...
    Blessings and love
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    – Saint Maximilian Kolbe


    ps: I was a lost sheep and i returned to the Catholic Faith. Please kindly discern any spiritual guidance by myself prior to October 1, 2012.

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    Food never made me spiritual but as i grow, i notice my desire to upgrade. When i feel down, i tend to go toward dense food. I know my choice of food reflect my inner state.

    My ultimate favorite thing to do to feel good is prayer, simply praying for others. My second one is to connect with nature and help others.


    All the best!
    Last edited by Raw Angel Mom; 11-25-2012 at 03:55 PM.
    Blessings and love
    -Raw Angel Mom


    “Never be afraid of loving the Blessed Virgin too much. You can never love her more than Jesus did.”
    – Saint Maximilian Kolbe


    ps: I was a lost sheep and i returned to the Catholic Faith. Please kindly discern any spiritual guidance by myself prior to October 1, 2012.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arky View Post
    The answer to your question is both 'Yes' and 'No'

    Yes, you can rip the CDs to a portable player

    No, you can't get the full benefit from mp3s

    The solution?

    Find a portable player which is capable of playing at least one of the following file formats:

    .wav
    .pcm
    .aiff
    Apple LOSSLESS codec
    .flac
    .ape
    Monkey's Audio


    Thankfully, over the past couple of years, many manufacturers have begun catering for lossless and uncompressed file formats, partly on account of the fact that these file formats are larger and memory card capacities are getting larger all the time, to accommodate larger files.


    Examples of players which will play some of the above file formats are:

    Cowon J3
    Cowon D2
    Apple iPod touch (probably the newer nanos, too, but you'd need to check before buying)
    Apple iPod Classic
    iBasso DX100
    HifiMan 801
    HifiMan 901
    Be careful with Sony - some of them support only very limited file formats (MP3, Atrac etc., although the very latest high-end Sonys will play the LOSSLESS version of the Atrac codec, which is basically Sony's proprietary equivalent of Apple's LOSSLESS codec).

    Anyway, the point is that if you do it right, yes, you can happily play Holosync on a portable player without degrading the binaural and (optional) subliminal signals. I won't bore you with the technicalities on why compressed formats degrade the signal, but there are genuine technical reasons.

    If you have a particular player already, and you're not sure, just tell me the model number and I'll check for you. Any other questions, let me know.
    Hi Arky,

    Is FLAC or WAV better for playback? FLAC seems to have a smaller file size.

    Thanks!

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