Arky, okay, I’ve now read the thread in the link and see your distinction between a “flush” and a “cleanse” however you’re still assuming (in this thread) that all cases of constipation and acne are caused by a poorly functioning liver and gallbladder and that no acne or constipation condition can be corrected by a good diet. You’re also assuming because of your own experience with your own diet, that diet alone cannot resolve heavy metal intoxication. Well it can. Cilantro, can eliminate heavy metals from the body as quickly as two weeks. If you’re still suffering from this condition then you should look into cilantro and chlorella. So whilst we agree on the potential risks of the liver flush, I don’t agree with your first post in this thread that no health issue can be resolved without “cleansing” the liver. Not all digestive issues are a result of a poor liver. Many factors cause constipation. Things like haemorrhoids, too much fiber, too little fiber, too many diuretics, not enough water, too much water, an imbalance of bad bacteria, Candida and other parasites, viruses, damaged bowel tissue and nerve endings and a whole list of other things that I won’t go into here. Not everyone is the same and everyone’s condition won’t be remedied by the liver “cleanse” that you describe.
Back to Candida. No I’m not talking about a person with existing Candida overgrowth. An overgrowth of Candida is pretty simple to achieve given the right conditions. Unlike you, I have suffered from Candida and my perfect immune system didn’t do anything to keep the problem at bay. If anything, my immune system was the thing that almost killed me because it attacked my entire body whilst trying to kill the Candida (and other bugs). Aside from the Candida itself burrowing through the lining of my gut, the inflammatory response and the severe gastritis I got from it completely thinned out my intestinal lining and cause severe malabsorption and a host of other issues. I did not have an existing Candida problem. It was caused by drugs that caused an inbalance of good and bad bugs and that thinned out the lining of my intestinal wallsafter being admitted to the ER from an irrelevant rib injury that resulted in serious breathing issues. I did not have any problems with Candida, digestion or any health issues prior to that injury. What I’m saying is that most times Candida is NOT kept at bay from a healthy immune system and it’s that immune system that fights to the death that causes a whole list of other conditions, including severe inflammation throughout the body that can damage vital organs. A lot of people have Candida overgrowth and have no symptoms at all because these people’s immune systems aren’t as strong. What I’m saying is that the Candida itself isn’t as potentially harmful to us and our organs as the harmful immune response that follows when one has a healthy working immune system. Once there's an imbalance between good and bad bacteria and candida, candida and bad bacteria can cause lots of damage to our digestive tracks and the line between a balance and being crossed can happen very quickly. Once this happens, candida and h.pylori destroys mucosa, thins out the lining and ends up in your blood stream.
I too like most people turned to this lifestyle because of health issues. I was very young at the time and whenever I turned to conventional medicine it made me worse and I healed myself with nutrition. I’m not talking of superficial health conditions either, but serious, life threatening conditions that I combated through nutrition and yoga. I’ve been super healthy for many years and I don’t come to these forums looking for support, I come here to offer it. I could write books but I don’t feel comfortable earning money from the sick and the weak, so I pop into forums now and then and try to share what I’ve learnt over the years to save others from having to spend as much time as I did having to sift through an overload of conflicting information.
I did not interpret your words in a way that suited me. Liver cleanse and liver flush are often used interchangeably and I did not realise that you were using the word “liver cleanse” with a different meaning to the norm. I didn’t bother clicking on your link previously because a liver cleanse wasn’t necessarily completely relevant to the health conditions raised in this thread. I was not having a go at you. I simply responded to the information you wrote in this thread and you arked up because of it. Lol “arked up” “arky”, concidence? Jusk kidding! Anyway, enough of this back and forth nonsense, lets instead try to focus on the topic in this thread and help tolondontoparis with her conditions. Peace from me too and all the best with your health issues too :)
You have an interesting story to tell about the candida, I'll give you that much :-)
I'm sorry to hear you had such a hard time with it, but I'm glad you made it to tell the tale and to help others - you know what they say: 'what doesn't kill us makes us stronger', and every life experience is an opportunity to learn (I particularly identify with the latter statement).
Disagree about the cilantro though ;-)
Originally Posted by aviatrix79
Oh You guys! I feel like I was watching a battle befor emy eyes! More like reading one! Their was supense, livers being thrown around, some greens here and there and loads of suspense and climactic moments! Then I reached the end, here and you have made up! Joy! ***happy dances***
Originally Posted by Arky
I am not dicrediting anything you are saying Arky, it's just that, well, Avia here pruposed ideas conducive to my natural mindset, and liverflushes/ cleanses make me cringe!
Avia thanks so much for sharing your story! And oh my gosh! My brother lives in Aussie and I am familiar with the time zone gap! I sure hope you are sleeping! thanks for deterring your sleep to help me! It makes my heart sing when I read your story, and success, and that you willingly want to help others! I'm so sick of peopel charging for this and for that! All people should help people for free and I lvoe you for this! Oh boy oh boy!
Raw honey mustard salad hear I come. Vitamin D all day tomorrow, and healthy bathroom and mind for the win!
I shall check in if I remember, but I shall make a conscious effort to check in on both you and Arky. I like you guys :)
Thanks Arky :) The Candida issue wasn't what made me go raw. It was pretty recent... only three years ago so despite being a health nut and healthy for years, being raw doesn't make one immune to such things and it's a constant effort to maintain that health. One slip up (trusting conventional doctors) and I was back to where I was (if not worse) before going raw. The condition that did lead me here however was severe endometriosis which caused adhesions binding my organs together, terrible pain and iflammation, constant grapefruit sized ovarian cysts, many that burst and many that were removed surgically, and the most scary... dangerous tumors. Operations made me worse and I ended up turning to alternative therapies and nutrition at a very young age. I'm thankful because if I hadn't, I very much doubt I would be here today. I've learnt a lot and health and nutrition has become a hobby for me. I also do believe there's a place for conventional medicine when it comes emergency situations... heart attacks, strokes etc and for diagnosis, but I completely distrust doctors and surgeons/butchers with their band-aid responses that don't attack the underlying cause of a particular problem and often make it (and other things) much worse.
Tolondontoparis, you're very cute! I'm happy to help out you or anyone, if, where or when I can. And yes we've kissed and made up lol. I actually don't get upset that easily so I didn't find it that unnerving :) I'm probably a little guilty of lacking tact because I'm pretty straight forward and blurt things out due to time constraints. If I'm a little abrupt with my responses, I apologise but that's just how I am. Arky's right, without facial expressions and body language (which makes up 80% of visual communication btw), it's easy to get offended over something on the net. But all is sweet and sharing information is what these forums are about. Sharing experiences can help so many on the net and that's why I conciously make an effort to look for these posts online. Most people, get sick, go online, get well and they disappear leaving the others struggling. I promised myself years ago that I would help others who are in a similar situation so that's what I intend to do. I may step on a toe or two along the way but if I heal the other eight, it's worthwhile :)
There is no vitamin D in either Aloe Vera or any fruit.
Originally Posted by benjaminzabler
I use to suffer from bad skin and I found eating raw really helped. I have been taking a raw meal replacement once a day for the last year and have noticed a huge difference. I drink plenty of water as well which helps and of course exercise. I just had my first baby two months ago and I didn't fight with acne while pregnant and I still have been clear.
That's aboslutely wonderful! Yay for posotive vibes!
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