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    Quote Originally Posted by breathless View Post
    PansyLo, I have read that a raw food diet can cure depression. Perhaps it can cure BPD as well?
    lt can for both, but l can't speak for everyone here.

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    This is a wonderful thread all. Thank you! PansyLo, I wanted to talk about BPD as a mother of 2 diagnosed as such. I was on meds and was told I could go off when my kids did. Wewe are all now completely off of them. If there is anything you'd like to ask me, let me know. I have found, food can play a part of it. Cleaning up my diet but holding on to the same painful thoughts.....well, you get it.
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    http://www.choose-again.com/home There is a solution!!.

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    "Why don't people get it?"


    I am trying to teach my mother about raw right now. She has agreed to start each day with a green smoothie. When we went shopping for supplies she and I battled constantly about protein, vitamins, animal products, etc., etc.

    Her response to all I was telling her that I considered truth was that it was hard for her to believe what I had to say about nutritional therapy because she had been INDOCTRINATED her whole 66 years that meat was how you got your protein, milk was good for you and you should cook your vegetables always.

    I thought this was a very valid point that most people could have. We are totally indoctrinated in the US that animal products are good for us and that is because of big dairy and cow companies sending their lobbyists to Washington and basically running things as far as the nutritional information that the public is getting.

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    I battle the same thing all the time too. Its frustrating that one's family can't just support the choices we have made without always saying you can't be getting enough protein, etc.

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    if they don't listen you, it's cool. i mean you left so information with them. hopefully they will wise up later.

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    Walnutty, when I first started Raw, I was so excited about it, I wanted to tell everyone. I started with my Mother, she was the most unhealthy eater I have ever known. She thought I was nuts, we had hard feeling and that was getting us no where. I would visit her and bring enough raw foods for both of us. She would tell me to eat my food and she wanted fried chicken, pie and ice cream. I ended up just accepting her for the way she is. I would bring my food and stop some place and get her what she wanted. We would eat at her place and both be content with what we each ate. All the trying to get others to change just causes us stress on both ends. The stress makes our food rot inside us no matter what we are eating. It's just not worth it. Maybe when your Mother sees you healthy and her health go down she will decide on her own to eat healthier. My Mother will never have that chance. Just love yours for who she is now. I know you love her
    or you wouldn't be so upset.
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    People don't like change. They don't like giving up the things they like and they don't like admitting they are wrong. I am no different. I doubt if I would have had any interest in living foods if I hadn't developed cancer. I was fortunate to develop a form of cancer that is very resistant to chemo and radiation or I probably would have gone that route.

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    A few people know the way I eat. And I have heard comments ranging from " It doesn't have any taste", "You're always hungry", "fruits and veggies don't have as much nutrition as meat". I am dead serious some idiot told me that once about the fruits and veggies not having same nutritional value as meat. Seriously some people are so ignorant about food and eating. I can't believe how many people I run into that are clueless. I have tried to influence others to try things but they are resistant. One time I was describing a green smoothie to some guy and as soon as I mentioned adding greens he starts to cringe. I almost felt like back handing him. I get so many people trying to start arguments with me like as if they are trying to prove me wrong but the reality is they feel offended cause they are stupid when it comes to food/nutrition. So many people eat garbage filled with so many unknown ingredients and they still eat it. When I make something like say a granola bar with simple and all organic ingredients they give me a hard time about it. They ask questions like "what's in it"? They question my food but continue to eat garbage with junk ingredients, pesticides, artificial colors/flavors, tons of added sugar etc etc.

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    I think raw is a good example of putting "be the change you want to see" into action. It doesn't matter what others do or think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by happylife View Post
    Walnutty, when I first started Raw, I was so excited about it, I wanted to tell everyone. I started with my Mother, she was the most unhealthy eater I have ever known. She thought I was nuts, we had hard feeling and that was getting us no where. I would visit her and bring enough raw foods for both of us. She would tell me to eat my food and she wanted fried chicken, pie and ice cream. I ended up just accepting her for the way she is. I would bring my food and stop some place and get her what she wanted. We would eat at her place and both be content with what we each ate. All the trying to get others to change just causes us stress on both ends. The stress makes our food rot inside us no matter what we are eating. It's just not worth it. Maybe when your Mother sees you healthy and her health go down she will decide on her own to eat healthier. My Mother will never have that chance. Just love yours for who she is now. I know you love her
    or you wouldn't be so upset.

    I am actually not upset at all.

    I just thought I'd share a reason that a non-raw person would give to why this lifestyle is so foreign to so many.

    My mother does see how healthy I am and how good I feel that is why she is starting with green smoothies.

    Meeting her at the grocery store was at her request.

    Again, I was just giving a reason that might be an answer to the person who started this thread. That was their question, not mine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by delmar View Post
    People don't like change. They don't like giving up the things they like and they don't like admitting they are wrong. I am no different. I doubt if I would have had any interest in living foods if I hadn't developed cancer. I was fortunate to develop a form of cancer that is very resistant to chemo and radiation or I probably would have gone that route.

    To be honest, if I wasn't so sick myself I don't think I would be doing this. I had a cancer scare 10 years ago and the doctors wanted to start removing body parts. I was NOT OKAY with that! So, I hit the computer and found raw. David Wolfe, to be exact. He's my raw hero!

    I am the only one in my family and out of my friends that eats this way. It is not always easy, but it sure is worth it and if it wasn't for the cancer scare I don't know if I would have found it!

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    Sorry that I misunderstood you. I just didn't want anyone to get upset over something they can't change in someone else ;)
    It's not the years in your life that count. It's the life in your years.

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    I may have the opposite "problem" a friend attended a party on Saturday and mentioned that I was opening a raw cafe in 2 weeks, she said that about 10 people expressed interest in doing the 30 day raw food diet and eating at my restaurant.
    A lot is said at parties but sounds promising.

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    ^ That's great.

    I think most people are:

    a) uninterested. Being unhealthy and drinking/smoking/eating yourself into oblivion is fashionable.
    b) people genuinely enjoy their vices. People love things that are bad for them, they think they make them feel good. They've never known anything any different so firmly believe it's what they want.
    c) ignorant. Lots of people simply don't know about how bad things are for them. Plenty people eat normal "healthy" food and think they're doing well. Others read mixed information and just don't believe raw foodism is viable and aren't willing to try it because they don't believe it enough to think it's worth their time.
    d) interested but don't believe that they can do it. It's not easy to completely change your lifestyle so drastically. Many people would like to do it but genuinely believe they just couldn't so they don't try. Some people try and still struggle. Others put it off thinking they'll do it in 6months... a year... when "X" happens... and so on.

    I think that more or less sums up why people don't get it.
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    ChiHong, sounds like you are a very good Ambassador for Raw if you already have that many followers.
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