Sprouting!

[Living Food]

l have no idea what to expect from the dill or celery. The celery seeds are just like ground up dried leaves, so l look forward to seeing how they turn out. 1 hour soak?...no idea.

I don't bother soaking celery or dill, it doesn't seem to change the length of time it takes them to germinate and the celery seeds are a pain to handle once they're wet.

They both take about a week before they germinate, and you can get away with only rinsing them once a day or once every other day. They both take about 3 weeks or more to be ready to eat, depending on the weather of course. I grow celery as a microgreen and dill as a soil-less green sprout, using a sprouting jar. I'd like to try dill as a microgreen, but I've never had enough to fool around with.

What stage is it best to eat sprouted rice at?

I have never sprouted rice, Mr Raw or someone else will have to answer that for you.

[The Sproutarian (Mr Raw)]

What stage is it best to eat sprouted rice at?

Rice would get much improved nutrition after sprouting, but the problem with sprouted rice is that the starch is still largely un-predigested and in original form. lf you use rice without husks, it risks oxidising if you sprout for longer than 7 - 8 days. So try sprouting dehusked rice for as long as possible before it goes brown. lt is a very slow sprouter. Serve fermented and then blended, or just blend after if has sprouted because it is still quite hard. lt's good in blended green smoothies, but sprouting rice is generally not worth while nutritionally when compared with other foods.

lf you can get rice with the husks on it can sprout much much better. A raw foodest called Mimi Kirk sprouts husk rice in a dehydrator overnight and gets good results. Mimi in in her 70's.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXlciTkKebc

lf you don't have good rice for sprouting you will probably fail to do it because it is really tough to sprout well. l use energised filtered water (energised water changes the vibration frequency of the water to make it more like rain water) and special devices to keep electromagnetic radiation from disturbing plant growth, but l still sruggle to do it, and so does `sproutman' from U.S.A. lt used to be easier once upon a time, but obviously my recent rice batches haven't been so good. So yes, you could get lucky with good seed, but you might fail.

[The Sproutarian (Mr Raw)]

I am assuming that you are talking about a cultivated variety because wild celery is toxic to a degree - one wild weed to avoid interestingly.

The proper sprouting variety of course. lt's safe and very popular with customers from what l am told. lf the celery works well l will get a 5kg sack of it.

The other seeds seem like a good price even though you have only $5 of each.

Hardly. $310 for brocolli seeds and $230 for Red Clover, and that is almost wholesale prices too. l used to be able to get 5kg of alfalfa from a certain health food shop for $150, but the sprouting company wants $250 for the same stuff at almost wholesale price.

I don't bother soaking celery or dill, it doesn't seem to change the length of time it takes them to germinate and the celery seeds are a pain to handle once they're wet.

They both take about a week before they germinate, and you can get away with only rinsing them once a day or once every other day. They both take about 3 weeks or more to be ready to eat, depending on the weather of course. I grow celery as a microgreen and dill as a soil-less green sprout, using a sprouting jar. I'd like to try dill as a microgreen, but I've never had enough to fool around with.

lnteresting. l'll keep all that in mind.

Late edit: actually l have been thinking about this some more. l think the answer is an obvious one for the celery seeds. lt will not really be possible to sprout them in sprouting trays (will clog up) or in jars (will clump togeather too much), so l will soak them for 10 minutes and then spread the seed out on trays with cloth on them and very lightly spray twice a day. But l might try some on soil too.

[Living Food]

Soil or cloth (any soil-less medium) works good for celery, but I still wouldn't soak it at all. It sticks to everything when it's wet and is difficult to spread easily.

If red clover grows in your general location, you could probably save a bundle of money by harvesting seeds yourself. I'm really starting to get serious about harvesting weed seeds now, by next spring and summer I'm hoping to be able to identify many more types of weeds and know when they seed so that I will be able to put up a very sizable stock of weed seeds for the winter. I'm going to see if I can get to the point where I can harvest a good portion of my sprouting seeds from wild plants, that would be amazing.

[delmar]

I'm going to see if I can get to the point where I can harvest a good portion of my sprouting seeds from wild plants, that would be amazing.

Have you had any luck saving garlic mustard seed?

[The Sproutarian (Mr Raw)]

Soil or cloth (any soil-less medium) works good for celery, but I still wouldn't soak it at all. It sticks to everything when it's wet and is difficult to spread easily.

That is exactly what l was just thinking as l re-read my previous post. You are right.

If red clover grows in your general location, you could probably save a bundle of money by harvesting seeds yourself. I'm really starting to get serious about harvesting weed seeds now, by next spring and summer I'm hoping to be able to identify many more types of weeds and know when they seed so that I will be able to put up a very sizable stock of weed seeds for the winter. I'm going to see if I can get to the point where I can harvest a good portion of my sprouting seeds from wild plants, that would be amazing.

Yes, l do need to start doing that. lf l can get 15 - 20 kg of seed l can save about $1,000.

[MysticTree]

Hardly. $310 for brocolli seeds and $230 for Red Clover, and that is almost wholesale prices too. l used to be able to get 5kg of alfalfa from a certain health food shop for $150, but the sprouting company wants $250 for the same stuff at almost wholesale

I meant good in the sense that you are getting it cheaper than anyone else. If I buy organic broccoli seeds from the health food shop it costs about £3 for 100g if I recall correctly. I bought some today but also got radish seeds, 3 bars raw chocolate and some raw crackers for bf. I need to check the receipt if I still have it.

[The Sproutarian (Mr Raw)]

I meant good in the sense that you are getting it cheaper than anyone else. If I buy organic broccoli seeds from the health food shop it costs about £3 for 100g if I recall correctly.

The company l get the brocolli seeds from charge 10.6 GBP for 100g.

[The Sproutarian (Mr Raw)]

Is there anything good to soybeans? I know everyone is scared as heck of them, but can soybeans somehow be consumed if sprouted?

The Africans were supposed to have started cross breeding different soy bean strands about 6,500 years ago, and mankind has been continuously hybridising the plant ever since. And we know that hybridisation of plants makes them develop undesirable characteristics. In the case of soy beans scientists have discovered that the molecular structure of soy has changed so much that now they are a tough legume that is very hard to digest...even cooking soy beans will take much longer than other beans which haven't been so extensively hybridised. Be careful, there is now studies that have linked soy consumption to long term allergies. Still...l am not sure of the statistical significance of the studies, but l will look into it one of these days.

Dr Clement on soy products:
And as we know, dense food is harder to digest. This is why about 75% of people in China have allergies to soy. + about 50 – 60% in the U.S have allergies also (most are fed from formulaes as babies that contained soy). Soy has all the goodies, but you can’t digest them, but promoting soy makes a good sounding sales pitch. Soy is promoted because it is cheap to grow

Not proof of anything, but it does make you think. Soy is one of those products which still has a big question mark over it, especially with it's genetic modifciation and it's extensive hybridisation. One of the reasons why Soy is a GM product is because all the chemicals used by Monsanto were killing the plants so they were forced to develop a GM version that could withstand all their poisoness chemicals without it dying. So if the chemicals were killing the soy in it's tracks, what is it doing to us? Look at the work of Jeffery Smith and you will get some nasty little surprises. To make it worse, 85% of all packaged food now has some GM ingredient in it.

[MysticTree]

Maybe you should move to the UK! You are getting yours cheaper than other Aussies and though it costs less here I think wages are lower so it probably evens out.

[PansyLo]

Ah thanks Mr Raw.

So really it's not worth persevering with as I couldn't even really eat like rice and it's not all that nutritious?

What are the most nutritious sprouts? When I get money I'll be making an online order. I like fine sprouts much more but would be willing to try others.

[Non]

The Africans were supposed to have started cross breeding different soy bean strands about 6,500 years ago, and mankind has been continuously hybridising the plant ever since. And we know that hybridisation of plants makes them develop undesirable characteristics. In the case of soy beans scientists have discovered that the molecular structure of soy has changed so much that now they are a tough legume that is very hard to digest...even cooking soy beans will take much longer than other beans which haven't been so extensively hybridised. Be careful, there is now studies that have linked soy consumption to long term allergies. Still...l am not sure of the statistical significance of the studies, but l will look into it one of these days.

Dr Clement on soy products:
And as we know, dense food is harder to digest. This is why about 75% of people in China have allergies to soy. + about 50 – 60% in the U.S have allergies also (most are fed from formulaes as babies that contained soy). Soy has all the goodies, but you can’t digest them, but promoting soy makes a good sounding sales pitch. Soy is promoted because it is cheap to grow

Not proof of anything, but it does make you think. Soy is one of those products which still has a big question mark over it, especially with it's genetic modifciation and it's extensive hybridisation. One of the reasons why Soy is a GM product is because all the chemicals used by Monsanto were killing the plants so they were forced to develop a GM version that could withstand all their poisoness chemicals without it dying. So if the chemicals were killing the soy in it's tracks, what is it doing to us? Look at the work of Jeffery Smith and you will get some nasty little surprises. To make it worse, 85% of all packaged food now has some GM ingredient in it.

Sigh, yea. Imagine if soy was one of the best legumes ever but due to hybridization now it's one of the worst.

[The Sproutarian (Mr Raw)]

Ah thanks Mr Raw.

So really it's not worth persevering with as I couldn't even really eat like rice and it's not all that nutritious?

Yeah, it's not worth the effort just to get the nutrition in it, there are much better foods to eat.

What are the most nutritious sprouts?

Red clover (high in minerals)
Alfalfa (roots of original plant go 30 - 60 feet in the ground so many trace minerals are picked up and are in the seeds)
Grasses
Sunflower greens
Fenugreek (highest source of iron and very higher in calcium than even sunflower greens with a much better phosphorous - calcium ratio)
Pea shoot greens
Cabbage sprouts
Brocolli sprouts (expensive though)
Sesame seed sprouts
Sunflower seed sprouts
Chia seed sprouts
Mung bean sprouts
Adzuki bean sprouts (one of the hardest sprouts to eat taste wise)

[The Sproutarian (Mr Raw)]

Important issues to be aware of - misinformation about the toxicity of alfalfa sprouts

There is lots of talk online about how alfalfa is toxic, but what they don't realise is that the studies of which these conclusions were based were significantly floored. The labs wanted to feed rats a large amount of alfalfa to see what the effects would be, but the problem was, the rats couldn't eat much alfalfa due to the large amount of bulk in fully grown alfalfa sprouts. So what the labs did was make a crucial error by only sprouting the alfalfa for 1 - 2 days instead of fully sprouting it; they only sprouted the alfalfa for short periods so the rats could eat much more of the alfalfa sprouts. But the problem with this is, at this stage of early growth the alfalfa contains an abundance of the toxic amino acid L-canavanine. So being poor researchers, the lab concluded that alfalfa was toxic to rats and quite likely to be toxic to human beings and warned against Lupus patients [in particular] consuming it. But at various places the health professionals DO give Lupus patients fully sprouted alfalfa grass with no ill effects.

So yes, the alfalfa study was heavily floored and people can quite happily eat alfalfa in good amounts, but caution has been warned about eating 10+ buckets of it a day (might not be dangerous, but there is a risk factor when eating it in this amount), but who eats 10 buckets of alfalfa a day? So rest assured, alfalfa is a good food to eat and there is no need to worry about the internet nonsense being written. l ate about 3 or 4 car loads of alfalfa sprouts in one year and felt great, no issues at all.

[PansyLo]

^ I love alfalfa so that's a start.

I've had adzuki bean sprouts, they're one I can only handle in salads disguised with dressing and all the flavoursome trimmings. The black eyed peas were even worse.

Fenugreek will be a good one as I'm prone to anemia and calcium helps prevent osteoporosis which my doctor warns me about. Fenugreek looks nice as a microgreen too. I love microgreens so it's something I'll have to recruit my green fingers mother into helping me start up, I'll try sunflower/pea shoot greens when I try that.

Red clover looks good!

My list for September will be: fenugreek, red clover, sunflower and chia (which I was going to buy anyway).

Also realised that flax seeds will sprout. I have an abundance of these as I don't really like them but bought loads of them at some point.

Looking forward to this!


And... another question , do sprouted herb seeds (dill, coriander) or things like garlic taste anything like they would as we would normally eat them?