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I think I may get some amaranth sown today. I haven't grown these before. Sprouted or greens or either/both?
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 Originally Posted by delmar
Mr R Do you grow anything outside in the ground? If not, is it just because you don't have the space to do so, or is there another reason?
l have some room to grow stuff outside, but l am not a believer in it. Sure l grow fruit trees, but l don't believe in growing vegetables in the back garden unless l wanted an occasional fresh vegetable to have to flavour a sprout drink. l don't view vegetables as a major source of nutrition, l only see them as `flavouring foods' or `party foods'. l reserve my garden for weeds, but even then l only make weeds a weekly or twice weekly treat. l don't believe in vegetables because they are mature plants that don't have near the nutrition of immature greens, + they have lots of course fiber that works the body harder than it needs to be worked if one is eating a proper diet, + they contain many toxins. The same thing goes with mature weeds, but l still endulge in weed treats because they are potent plants and easy to get, but make it only a semi regular event. Weed sprouts would be far superior, but that means much harder work to gather all the seeds and then sprouts (l am too busy to become a seed gatherer as well, so l compromise my diet diet by eating mature weeds instead of weed sprouts). l visit the farm tomorrow and spend the entire day on weed juice....can't wait!
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My brown rice is definitely starting to sprout. :) I'm so proud of myself, the first success aside alfalfa.
I have officially sprouted things without killing them.
Also have some pretty successful herbs growing in the garden and will soon attempt some spinach and a rainbow mix of chard.
Still struggling to find things to sprout though. Me and my mum had a good look at the supermarket and everything seems to be processed in some way. They had raw wholegrain barley but it warns on the packet that it's not to be eaten raw.
You can get popping corn in Holland and Barrett's, I've heard people mention sprouting that, that may be my next try, if it doesn't work though I have no idea what to do with the rest of the bag!
Wistful and pale at twenty and four. Delivering daisies.
You can call me Pansy. ♥
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I was just reading a great report from the Hippocrates Health Institute sent to me from a naturopath aquaintance and it mentioned how 16 onzes of tray based green juices yields 25 grams of pre-digested protein. That is AMAZING!!!...and in alkaline form that doesn't damage and drain the body like normal high protein diets. So if l have 24 oz of sprout juice [like l try to] and about 6 oz of wheatgrass juice, that will yield close to 40 grams of predigested protein. And if l add the 10+ grams from chlorella and the other 10+ grams from E3 live and all the protein from sea vegetables and all the jar based sprouts like lentils and nuts and sesame seeds etc, l am getting a HUGE amount of predigested protein, something like 90 - 100 grams or more, but in safe balanced form with only about 20 grams of hardcore non-predigested protein. Most green vegetables have a quarter of the amino acids of sprouts, that's why it is hard to get enough protein from green vegetables only. Even one oz of wheatgrass juice is one gram of 100% digestable protein (amazing and mind blowing stuff). What is even more incredible is that l don't exercise at all (bad l know), but l am gaining muscle on my arms and body from just going about my normal business of daily work and after hours doing the sprouts (l am gaining muscle like a cow and not working hard doing it...that is amazing considering l have always been thin and very low on muscle mass). When l used to do weights l began to stack on the muscle with minimal exercise, so l will try and do it again. On an ideal diet such as this one a person can become so incredibly fit with minimal exercise.
Then there is the amazing amounts of highly absorbable predigested carbs on this diet. Lots in wheatgrass juice (basically l have 1.5 cups of sprouted wheat that converts into grass), lentil sprouts, chickpea sprouts, pea shoot greens (lots), and many carbs in the nut and seed sprouts, but the wheatgrass and pea shoot greens are highly potent highly absorbable sources.
Then there are the extremely high levels of fatty acids with the chia greens, sesame seeds and nut sprouts.
Then there are the extremely high levels of phytonutrients (far far higher than any other raw diet).
Then there are the extremely high levels of vitamins and minerals (far far higher than any other raw diet)
Then there are the extremely high levels of enzymes (up to 100 times higher than a freshly picked raw fruit and vegetables diet from a person's garden and up to 1000's of times higher than shop bought fruit and vegetables)
Then there are the extremely high levels of oxygen and hormones (more hormones than any other diet and probably more oxygen than other diets due to it's freshness).
The sproutarian diet wins in every single category!!!
HHI still recommend a 90/5/5 diet. (90% of calories from carbs, 5% from concentrated fat, and 5% from concentrated protein).
Last edited by The Sproutarian (Mr Raw); 06-16-2012 at 11:06 AM.
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You could sprout and green up the barley then juice it. Whole lentils and mung beans and adzuki beans from the dry goods section of the supermarket will sprout. You could check out Nicky's Nursery for seeds by mail order. Not the best value quantities to buy but a good-ish selection.
Last edited by MysticTree; 06-16-2012 at 10:49 AM.
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 Originally Posted by PansyLo
My brown rice is definitely starting to sprout. :) I'm so proud of myself, the first success aside alfalfa.
I have officially sprouted things without killing them.
l am so proud of you. Well done! 
Me and my mum had a good look at the supermarket and everything seems to be processed in some way.
lt takes time. When l first started sprouting there was no internet or anyone to help me, it was a period of trial and error and took a couple of years to develop the knowledge. Wheatgrass juicers, tray sprouters and seed grinders and mortar and pestles were non existant. When l started there were virtually no raw food leaders; no Matt Monarchs, no David Wolfes...hardly anyone. Then one day l came back to raw foods and the whole scene had changed completely; raw food WAS IN and there were raw food leaders all over the place and there were juicers and sprouting equipment and the internet and youtube and everything. When l started, no-one did raw foods except the old gurus and past legends like Norman Walker, Ann Wigmore, and a few others, but most people didn't and they never even wanted to know about raw or vegan foods. lt's incredible how quickly times have changed.
lt's good that your mum is on side and supporting you. Stick with it. lf you have trouble finding seeds, look for a good health food shop and order well known brands of seeds that will sprout. Try small packets at first, or ring the companies and ask if their seeds will sprout.
Last edited by The Sproutarian (Mr Raw); 06-16-2012 at 10:56 AM.
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 Originally Posted by Mr Raw
l have some room to grow stuff outside, but l am not a believer in it. Sure l grow fruit trees, but l don't believe in growing vegetables in the back garden unless l wanted an occasional fresh vegetable to have to flavour a sprout drink. l don't view vegetables as a major source of nutrition, l only see them as `flavouring foods' or `party foods'. l reserve my garden for weeds, but even then l only make weeds a weekly or twice weekly treat. l don't believe in vegetables because they are mature plants that don't have near the nutrition of immature greens, + they have lots of course fiber that works the body harder than it needs to be worked if one is eating a proper diet, + they contain many toxins. The same thing goes with mature weeds, but l still endulge in weed treats because they are potent plants and easy to get, but make it only a semi regular event. Weed sprouts would be far superior, but that means much harder work to gather all the seeds and then sprouts (l am too busy to become a seed gatherer as well, so l compromise my diet diet by eating mature weeds instead of weed sprouts). l visit the farm tomorrow and spend the entire day on weed juice....can't wait!
can see that you are indeed, very busy! Just to clarify, if you had a very large garden and space was not a real limitation, would it not be easier to grow your micro-greens and grasses in the earth?
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 Originally Posted by MysticTree
I think I may get some amaranth sown today. I haven't grown these before. Sprouted or greens or either/both?
I sowed a little this morning as well. I finally got an outside water hose rigged up yesterday. It has really been dry here and hauling water has been slowing me down bigtime!
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We have too much rain. Typical.
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Mr Raw: I should keep that in mind next time I think about how difficult it is to find anything! There is tonnes of information out there now and more and more people are converting to real diets. It's not unheard of to be raw. It's just frustrating when you're trying and nothing works.
I'll get there eventually... 
For now at least I'm learning things even if it is gradual and I can't keep up the diet I'd like to be on yet. If I keep going like this at least one day I will.
Wistful and pale at twenty and four. Delivering daisies.
You can call me Pansy. ♥
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 Originally Posted by Mr Raw
I was just reading a great report from the Hippocrates Health Institute sent to me from a naturopath aquaintance and it mentioned how 16 onzes of tray based green juices yields 25 grams of pre-digested protein. That is AMAZING!!!...and in alkaline form that doesn't damage and drain the body like normal high protein diets. So if l have 24 oz of sprout juice [like l try to] and about 6 oz of wheatgrass juice, that will yield close to 40 grams of predigested protein. And if l add the 10+ grams from chlorella and the other 10+ grams from E3 live and all the protein from sea vegetables and all the jar based sprouts like lentils and nuts and sesame seeds etc, l am getting a HUGE amount of predigested protein, something like 90 - 100 grams or more, but in safe balanced form with only about 20 grams of hardcore non-predigested protein. Most green vegetables have a quarter of the amino acids of sprouts, that's why it is hard to get enough protein from green vegetables only. Even one oz of wheatgrass juice is one gram of 100% digestable protein (amazing and mind blowing stuff). What is even more incredible is that l don't exercise at all (bad l know), but l am gaining muscle on my arms and body from just going about my normal business of daily work and after hours doing the sprouts (l am gaining muscle like a cow and not working hard doing it...that is amazing considering l have always been thin and very low on muscle mass). When l used to do weights l began to stack on the muscle with minimal exercise, so l will try and do it again. On an ideal diet such as this one a person can become so incredibly fit with minimal exercise.
Then there is the amazing amounts of highly absorbable predigested carbs on this diet. Lots in wheatgrass juice (basically l have 1.5 cups of sprouted wheat that converts into grass), lentil sprouts, chickpea sprouts, pea shoot greens (lots), and many carbs in the nut and seed sprouts, but the wheatgrass and pea shoot greens are highly potent highly absorbable sources.
Then there are the extremely high levels of fatty acids with the chia greens, sesame seeds and nut sprouts.
Then there are the extremely high levels of phytonutrients (far far higher than any other raw diet).
Then there are the extremely high levels of vitamins and minerals (far far higher than any other raw diet)
Then there are the extremely high levels of enzymes (up to 100 times higher than a freshly picked raw fruit and vegetables diet from a person's garden and up to 1000's of times higher than shop bought fruit and vegetables)
Then there are the extremely high levels of oxygen and hormones (more hormones than any other diet and probably more oxygen than other diets due to it's freshness).
The sproutarian diet wins in every single category!!!
HHI still recommend a 90/5/5 diet. (90% of calories from carbs, 5% from concentrated fat, and 5% from concentrated protein).
How can one get that much carbs? when all those seeds have less carbs when sprouted? unless you are having a lot of the legumes and grains...
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 Originally Posted by delmar
can see that you are indeed, very busy! Just to clarify, if you had a very large garden and space was not a real limitation, would it not be easier to grow your micro-greens and grasses in the earth?
Maybe if you dug up holes and had "underground cellars"... or in a cave?
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how do I remineralize the water after a reverse osmosis filter takes them all out? Esp. when using a hose to water the sprouts, its not like you would transfer the water to a container to remineralize it using ionic minerals and then watering with that (because spray hose are more recommended than jst pouring the water). WOuld kelp in the soil and jars do this?
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 Originally Posted by Non
How can one get that much carbs? when all those seeds have less carbs when sprouted? unless you are having a lot of the legumes and grains...
Measuring the Mono-Saccharides (predigested carbs) v's the Disaccharides and Polysaccharides (normal carbs) is an issue l don't understand, but that is the way it works out (carb ratio look much higher than the prteins and fats). No, l don't consume alot of grains and legumes, but the Mono-Saccharides seem to be measured different so the number looks high in the ratio.
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its not that Im measuring diff. kinds of polysaccharides. I mean ...
First off let's say a single seed contains 10g of carbs, when it sprouts will that entire sprout still contain 10g of carbs or will it go down? Also.. that same seed now sprouted will take up more space so it limits how much space left you have for more food.
do you measure the same amount of carbs in the dry seeds the same as the equivalent amount in sprouted form? It would seem that one is able to consume less amount of seeds when sprouted becuse it takes greater space in the stomach. Add that to the possible decrease in carbs by sprouting and that means you'll be getting less total carbs correct?
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