Sprouting!

[The Sproutarian (Mr Raw)]

I don't think hormones work that way.

Nature is a very clever masterplan. Nature on Earth was created by the universal intelligance that knew mankind had free will and would make choices that seriously compromised heirs natural internal powers. The master intelligence knew we would stray far....very very far indeed, and with that would come cooked foods and the eating of animal products and the taking of toxic non food substances for frivolous pleasures. And with our decline as former masters of the universe came sickness and deficiencies and our need to top up with vitamins, minerals, oxygen (breathing isn't enough today), phytonutrients, enzymes and hormones to top up and help repair the disasters mankind has inflicted upon heirself. Doesn't that make sense? to me, it all fits into place with the master plan of evolution...it's what the higher powers are telling me. l even recall Dr Clement saying that the hormones can be used to replace lost hormones and have been used with great such at HHI, this makes me even more convinced that l am on the right track with this one. No scientific proof of course, but everything is pointing in the direction that plantfoods can be used to top up on nutrients the body has low levels of.

The scientists laughed at us all when we said that plant enzymes were vital to maintain high level health, but we had the last laugh there. Now l think the wisdom of the raw fooders will come to trump our lowly and narrow scientific thinking again by eventually proving this theory to be correct.

[The Sproutarian (Mr Raw)]

pansylo, I'm hoping to start buying organic seeds in bulk. I will let you know when I get some good seed as I can always send you some. I want to start selling sprouting seeds but not at the silly prices they are in the shops but I have a lot of research to do yet.

Those folks will be hard nuts to crack, i've been trying to crack them for a very long time and have made very little inroad. The problem is that the farms sell to cashed up middlemen, and these middle men keeps these farms top secret and l assume do a deal which prohibits the farms from advertising, that's why very few of these farms can be found online or in the phone book.

When l talk to these seed companies l tell the owner straight out that l want to buy in bulk, but l always say that l simply refuse to pay anything near the prices they charge for the seeds. l offer them a fair price. You need to be able to convince the sprouting companies that why they should sell you seeds at a heavily discounted price. l managed to convince one of the owners to knock off at least $200 from the brocolli seeds, and l am in the middle of trying to get alfalfa and red clover for heavily discounted prices also. When l get to know the owner better l am going to persuade her to spill the beans and tell me all her seed sources so l can buy direct from the farms, but this will take a cordial relationship before l try this....l am not their target market and not much money will be made off myself, so why not tell me everything. *wink*

lt's amazing what people will do if you convince them why they should do it. l have never been one to wheel and deal and buy stuff on sale, but when it comes to seeds and food it is a different matter entirely...l build relationships and get good prices. l even get my E3 live for almost half price; they always ask $200 for the container, but l say that there is no way l am ever going to pay that much and tell them $125 is my limit, and you know what....they agree!

We pay far too much for seeds and food and l simply refuse to buy into the baloney.

[MysticTree]

Plant hormones aren't the same as human ones and simply intaking large amounts of them is not going to solve a hormonal problem. The glands that secrete hormones have an incredible balancing a to do. Phytoestrogens for example. Not the same as human estrogen. I think the reason raw works so well is that it's the least foreign substance that you can introduce into the body. I don't think it's much more complicated than that.

[The Sproutarian (Mr Raw)]

Plant hormones aren't the same as human ones

Maybe the body can convert some plant hormones into human ones, so by definition it is still a hormone. Or, maybe the body can use `so called' plant hormones for direct use by the human body (not a hormone by strict definition, but still...). The current science says lots of things, but l am not convinced as yet. Time will tell.

I think the reason raw works so well is that it's the least foreign substance that you can introduce into the body. I don't think it's much more complicated than that.

Completely dissagree. Introducing the least foreign substance is a factor, but l am convinced it goes a whole lot deeper than that. Herbert Howell's work on enzymes, and current research on phytochemicals convince me that raw food is not just about being less burdensome on the body...it's also about the golden jewls that only `raw' contains. l feel plants exist to top up lost internal nutrition that humans are lacking from free will/bad living.

l reckon there would have to be some science to support that the body can convert plant hormones into human hormones, and l will begin a search for this information. lt does make sense and l feel l am on the right track. Anyway...why would Dr Brian risk making a big fool of himself by making such a strong statement about plant hormones, l think he has come across some strong science to support what he says, otherwise he doesn't go around saying things so confidently. When Dr Brian is unsure you always know (his tone is different), but when he has the science behind him his voice is confident and loud and never faulters.

[MysticTree]

The body breaks everything down into useable building blocks and builds the chemicals it needs to function. Some people have better functioning bodies than others.

[Non]

I've been putting spirulina in some sprouted flaxseed and chia seed powder with water.

[walnutty]

I just purchased a mesh screening to use with my mason jars, so I am ready FINALLY to sprout! YEAH!!!

[Living Food]

Maybe the body can convert some plant hormones into human ones, so by definition it is still a hormone. Or, maybe the body can use `so called' plant hormones for direct use by the human body (not a hormone by strict definition, but still...). The current science says lots of things, but l am not convinced as yet. Time will tell.

Look what I found:



"Beneficial Effects of Plant Hormones to Human Health

By: Heda Belle Decrito, RN

Plant hormones or Phytohormones are organic compounds that are synthesized in a particular part of a plant and then conveyed to other parts. Even in low concentration, phytohormones are able to regulate the growth and development of plants, as well as affect their ability to differentiate cells and tissues. Phytohormones affect the plants' ability to respond to environmental stimuli. They are also responsible for the plants' longevity and death, time of flowering, as well as in the development and ripening of fruit. Plant hormones are abundant in embryonic plant tissues and not in mature plant cells.

Like plants, the human body also produces hormones and enzymes. In people and vertebrate animals, hormones act as chemical messengers that are utilized by the endocrine, nervous, and immune systems to convey unseen electrical impulses and chemical signals that would facilitate communication within a cell or between cell and/or among system organs. Hormones and enzymes also regulate body functions, control human behavior and integrate systemic functions – nervous, immune and endocrine systems, etc.

Plants cannot benefit from human hormones; however, plant hormones can do wondrous health effects to human health. Laboratory findings show that plant hormones can stimulate human immune cells that boost the body's natural defense against stressors and diseases. There are three types of plant hormones that have shown promising benefits to us humans - Plant Growth Hormone (PGH), Plant Stress Hormone (PSH) and Plant Immune Hormone (PIH).


Plant Growth Hormone

As the name suggests, plant growth hormone regulates plant growth and development. There are 4 plant growth hormones with known beneficial effects to humans – Gibberellins, Auxins, Brassinosteroids, and Cytokinins.

Gibberellins (GAs) are plant growth hormones that are found mainly in the buds and young shoots. When extracted from these embryonic plant parts and incorporated in PSC therapy, gibberellins are able to offer numerous health benefits. GAs stimulate RNA and Protein synthesis. Gibberellic acid also aids in drainage, a process characterized as detoxification by means of organ stimulation, tissue excitation and toxins elimination.

Auxins are plant growth hormones that are involved plant-cell elongation. A well-known natural auxin extracted from plants is Indole Acetic Acid (IAA). Research shows that auxins have fetal hormonal action. They also stimulate cellular growth and provide better resistance to disease. The IAA in auxins acts as an antiinflammatory and helps tissue to regenerate. Also, when used in combination with the plant enzyme peroxidase, Indole Acetic Acid can produce byproducts that are toxic to cancer cells, yet harmless to healthy cells.

Another plant growth hormone is Cytokinin. Cytokinins provide protection to the cells as they undergo cell division (mitosis). DNA is constantly copied as the cells undergo division. Cytokinins prevent the mistranslation of the DNA molecules during the replication phase, making each cell a mirror image of the other divided cell. Cytokinins are also known to inhibit senescence. They can slow down the aging process by inhibiting the breakdown of proteins through the stimulation of RNA and protein synthesis.

Brassinosteroids are similar to animal steroids in many respects. However, at the cellular level, they appear to function differently. The most abundant brassinosteroid found in plants is Brassinolide, which was first isolated from the pollen of Brassica Napus. Brassinolide can act synergistically with auxins gibberellins and other hormones. Brassinosteroids are used safely and successfully for lowering serum cholesterol levels.

Plant Stress Hormone (PSH)

Plant stress hormones are responsible for activating the plants cellular response to diverse stress situations, including cell death. They are made in the cells of the plants that are faced with a massive scarcity of nutrients. Abscisic acid, ethylene, Jasmonic acid and salicylates are the most common PSHs that have shown positive health effects to humans. Researchers have found that these plant stress hormones, like any other anticancer hormones, have the ability to adversely affect human cancer cells.

Jasmonic acid suppresses and destroys major types of human cancer cells. Jasmonic acid is helpful in preventing and treating vaginal and/or reproductive problems in mammalian females. Jasmonates facilitate the renewal of the regressing vaginal mucosa and prevent vaginal wall dryness.

Plant Immune Hormone (PIH)

Plant immune hormones are organic compounds that trigger the plant's immune response to bacterial, fungal and viral infections. Some of the most common PIHs are Salicylates, Auxins and Jasmonic acid. Salicylic acid is the primary immune hormone found in plants, which have antipyretic and antiinflammatory properties.

Acceleration of wound healing and rehabilitation following injury and reversal of biological and physical effects of aging are just some of the numerous benefits that plant hormones have to give. Plant hormones also reverse muscle wasting, improve vision kidney, liver and other organ function, improve memory retention and other cognitive factors, reduces stress and enhances the immune system, as well as promote tighter, younger and more supple skin.

Contrary to Human Growth Hormones, which pose the risk of cancer, embryonic plant extracts do not pose such risk. Nor will it affect the function of the pituitary gland as in the use of human growth hormone."



Oh, and a quick google search on "cytokinins benefits" alone turned up loads of results. That's just one of thousands of plant hormones, and I'm convinced that most of them have major beneficial impacts on the human body.

[Living Food]

I just purchased a mesh screening to use with my mason jars, so I am ready FINALLY to sprout! YEAH!!!

WHOHOO!!!

Have you considered growing microgreens also (no mesh needed)?

[The Sproutarian (Mr Raw)]

Look what I found:



"Beneficial Effects of Plant Hormones to Human Health

By: Heda Belle Decrito, RN

Plant hormones or Phytohormones are organic compounds that are synthesized in a particular part of a plant and then conveyed to other parts. Even in low concentration, phytohormones are able to regulate the growth and development of plants, as well as affect their ability to differentiate cells and tissues. Phytohormones affect the plants' ability to respond to environmental stimuli. They are also responsible for the plants' longevity and death, time of flowering, as well as in the development and ripening of fruit. Plant hormones are abundant in embryonic plant tissues and not in mature plant cells.

Like plants, the human body also produces hormones and enzymes. In people and vertebrate animals, hormones act as chemical messengers that are utilized by the endocrine, nervous, and immune systems to convey unseen electrical impulses and chemical signals that would facilitate communication within a cell or between cell and/or among system organs. Hormones and enzymes also regulate body functions, control human behavior and integrate systemic functions – nervous, immune and endocrine systems, etc.

Plants cannot benefit from human hormones; however, plant hormones can do wondrous health effects to human health. Laboratory findings show that plant hormones can stimulate human immune cells that boost the body's natural defense against stressors and diseases. There are three types of plant hormones that have shown promising benefits to us humans - Plant Growth Hormone (PGH), Plant Stress Hormone (PSH) and Plant Immune Hormone (PIH).


Plant Growth Hormone

As the name suggests, plant growth hormone regulates plant growth and development. There are 4 plant growth hormones with known beneficial effects to humans – Gibberellins, Auxins, Brassinosteroids, and Cytokinins.

Gibberellins (GAs) are plant growth hormones that are found mainly in the buds and young shoots. When extracted from these embryonic plant parts and incorporated in PSC therapy, gibberellins are able to offer numerous health benefits. GAs stimulate RNA and Protein synthesis. Gibberellic acid also aids in drainage, a process characterized as detoxification by means of organ stimulation, tissue excitation and toxins elimination.

Auxins are plant growth hormones that are involved plant-cell elongation. A well-known natural auxin extracted from plants is Indole Acetic Acid (IAA). Research shows that auxins have fetal hormonal action. They also stimulate cellular growth and provide better resistance to disease. The IAA in auxins acts as an antiinflammatory and helps tissue to regenerate. Also, when used in combination with the plant enzyme peroxidase, Indole Acetic Acid can produce byproducts that are toxic to cancer cells, yet harmless to healthy cells.

Another plant growth hormone is Cytokinin. Cytokinins provide protection to the cells as they undergo cell division (mitosis). DNA is constantly copied as the cells undergo division. Cytokinins prevent the mistranslation of the DNA molecules during the replication phase, making each cell a mirror image of the other divided cell. Cytokinins are also known to inhibit senescence. They can slow down the aging process by inhibiting the breakdown of proteins through the stimulation of RNA and protein synthesis.

Brassinosteroids are similar to animal steroids in many respects. However, at the cellular level, they appear to function differently. The most abundant brassinosteroid found in plants is Brassinolide, which was first isolated from the pollen of Brassica Napus. Brassinolide can act synergistically with auxins gibberellins and other hormones. Brassinosteroids are used safely and successfully for lowering serum cholesterol levels.

Plant Stress Hormone (PSH)

Plant stress hormones are responsible for activating the plants cellular response to diverse stress situations, including cell death. They are made in the cells of the plants that are faced with a massive scarcity of nutrients. Abscisic acid, ethylene, Jasmonic acid and salicylates are the most common PSHs that have shown positive health effects to humans. Researchers have found that these plant stress hormones, like any other anticancer hormones, have the ability to adversely affect human cancer cells.

Jasmonic acid suppresses and destroys major types of human cancer cells. Jasmonic acid is helpful in preventing and treating vaginal and/or reproductive problems in mammalian females. Jasmonates facilitate the renewal of the regressing vaginal mucosa and prevent vaginal wall dryness.

Plant Immune Hormone (PIH)

Plant immune hormones are organic compounds that trigger the plant's immune response to bacterial, fungal and viral infections. Some of the most common PIHs are Salicylates, Auxins and Jasmonic acid. Salicylic acid is the primary immune hormone found in plants, which have antipyretic and antiinflammatory properties.

Acceleration of wound healing and rehabilitation following injury and reversal of biological and physical effects of aging are just some of the numerous benefits that plant hormones have to give. Plant hormones also reverse muscle wasting, improve vision kidney, liver and other organ function, improve memory retention and other cognitive factors, reduces stress and enhances the immune system, as well as promote tighter, younger and more supple skin.

Contrary to Human Growth Hormones, which pose the risk of cancer, embryonic plant extracts do not pose such risk. Nor will it affect the function of the pituitary gland as in the use of human growth hormone."



Oh, and a quick google search on "cytokinins benefits" alone turned up loads of results. That's just one of thousands of plant hormones, and I'm convinced that most of them have major beneficial impacts on the human body.

Excellent find. l'm not surprised at all to read that. l'll do some really good research into this shortly. .

[walnutty]

WHOHOO!!!

Have you considered growing microgreens also (no mesh needed)?

I am in a little tiny place in the middle of cement city (Phoenix) with no direct sunlight on my windows. How would I do that?

[The Sproutarian (Mr Raw)]

I am in a little tiny place in the middle of cement city (Phoenix) with no direct sunlight on my windows. How would I do that?

You don't need direct sunlight through the windows. Even a dim room is enough for the microgreens to get green.

`Sproutman' aka Steve Meyerowitz had a high rise apartment in New York City and lived on the sprouts. He had an entire apartment that looked like a forest. He grew all his microgreens without soil and invented special equipment to do it. He is abit of a salesman, but he really knows is stuff and is an authority on sprouts. Funny enough, none of the sproutarians ever want to talk to me. Even when l try to order something, they ignore me. Here is his site to read about soil-less growing:
http://www.sproutman.com/

Steve is about 80% raw right now. All the sproutarian legends like Wigmore, Clement and Kulvinskas respected him.

[The Sproutarian (Mr Raw)]

Some of the new seeds l bought recently. l could only buy 5kg of each because the price is quite steep. These two bags would make enough sprouts to fill four family sized cars. The seeds might be expensive, but for all those sprouts and the health benefits, it still is a good price.
Red Clover, Brocolli seeds


l got some samples of some other unusual sprouting seeds also, Watercress, celery, dill, onion seeds.


The Onion will grow a grass and will be quite delicate, so it would probably be a cold weather grass that l will need to grow for about 14 days. There will be no odor after drinking the juice because the chlorophyl will neutralize the smell [unlike conventional onions]. lt is supposed to be a really slow germinator in the first week of growing.

The watercress will probably need to be grown on a tray with cloth under the seeds.

l have no idea what to expect from the dill or celery. The celery seeds are just like ground up dried leaves, so l look forward to seeing how they turn out. 1 hour soak?...no idea.
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Australian sproutarian tour
The good news is that l may be achieving a dream. l have spoken to various companies about funding a national tour of the world's two greatest speakers on sprouts, and there is good interest. l want to get Dr Brian Clement and Viktoras Kulvinskas out here and travel with them on a lecture tour and film it all, and give them the introductions that they deserve. l even want to take those two guys down to the beach house so l can have a couple of days with them myself where they can give me the full sprout education l need to fill in the gaps of my knowledge. These two guys are legends and Kulvinskas is my hero of hero's, so spending time with Kulvinskas is going to blow my mind...been wanting to meet him for 16 years....will be my wildest dream come true and vital contacts for the future.

A couple of years later l will invite `sproutman' out to Australia, and him and myself will do a lecture tour. l should by then have done hundreds of hours of library research, and will have facts pinned to the insides of my eyelids so l can do a Brian Clement style of delivery (intense with lots of scientific studies quoted). When l speak to people about sprouts, l am always very intense...more so than even Dr Brian.

We need to get the word out about the sprouts and it's up to the keenest folks to do it.

[MysticTree]

Onion (and also the other allium seeds such as garlic) very slow to germinate as anyone who grows spring onions will tell you. 14 days would be very optimistic here in the UK. They do taste good though. I haven't tried watercress but I can't see how it could be anything but amazing. Lots of good things in watercress. Celery is a strong one I would imagine. I am assuming that you are talking about a cultivated variety because wild celery is toxic to a degree - one wild weed to avoid interestingly. It grows rampant locally. Dill I think would be rather nice. I've not tried sprouting it but I suppose it would be a fine sprout like alfalfa. Let us know how you get on. The other seeds seem like a good price even though you have only $5 of each.

[PansyLo]

What stage is it best to eat sprouted rice at?

I have a tendency to kill it just after it starts to sprout, but would that be a good time to eat it or should I just be more vigilant? Problem is I spend days away from home and my mother always forgets about them. With something that takes a bit longer like rice it can be a bit of an issue.

Had a real craving for sprouts yesterday but don't have any on the go just now. Better get some soaking. Would quite like to try sprouted rice. Maybe with some sort of raw curry?