Sprouting!

[MysticTree]

Edited..

[Non]

Relying on flax oil for omega 3's isn't a good idea either. Some scientists have said we only absorb 8% from the oil.

From the oil. That's very telling as the oil has no fiber... But what if you soak the whole seed over night, and then consume it? Not blending it either. And with a combination of other foods it might help to absorb it moreso would it not? (ie greens and/or fruit). I'm also unsure of what the natural way that monkeys would consume flax as flax comes with hulls and in a stalk or something so, if in nature would monkeys just consume that whole plant st structure or do they fiddle with trying to break open the hulls to get one tiny seed?

You also talk about bad food combinations,as I've seen on your website. Fruits and leafy greens do not mix correct? Neither do they mix with fats? I wonder if it matters the specific kind of fatty acid ratio present in the seed used (ie omega 3 to 6) like flax seeds have more omega 3s to 6. Or it could be a sesame seed/pumpkin seed which has quite a bit of oleic acid (omega 9), or it could also be a walnut or sunflower seed which has more omega 6. I also wonder if it matters that the seeds have or haven't been at least soaked for some time to allow an amount of germination (ie overnight). Also, mixing together just fruit and greens, and just fruit and fat might have their own effects than if taken all together. Which is why I wonder why gabriel Cousens allows "low glycemic phase 1.5 fruits in a phase 1 diet as long as it's in a salad". In a salad or accompanied by a salad? All have a different context. For example "in a salad": would that mean a prepare salad which most likely contains a dressing - a fatty dressing, and often with vinegar/lemon juice and salt... which have their own properties also.

Then there is the question of whether he could also means the same with "just greens and no fat and or salt or vinegar necessarily included". Both options might have their own specific effect when combined improving their digestion.

Heh, AND THEN there's a question of eating "unripe nuts/seeds" like it was mentioned on another forum, and that these nuts/seeds have more simple sugars and mature seeds have more starches.


Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm........... one can always go deeper can they?

[Non]

I'm just saying this because you know.. Im just trying to make the best of what I have/get from the foods I eat even if they're not entirely sprouted. At the very least I do soak my seeds/nuts over night or at least 2-3 hrs for some of the other ones.

Then like I said also comes the question of "unripe" nuts/seeds which are consumed like in the East. That can make a whole of a different in the digestibility.

But you see, these kinds of questions can only be answered really if one were living as "close to nature" as possible in a "natural" environment with these kinds of plant foods locally grown such that everything is FRESH and not dried.


And of course the food combination thing is hard to follow in all cases.

According to Dr. Morse it all requires alkaline digestion. or maybe Im taking it out of context.

On a Gabriel Cousens phase 1 diet, one cannot have fruits on it's own, only "in a salad" can they be consumed. I also know that consuming fats with any other food improves absorbability of vitamins/minerals. So how does one get around that? I also question which is the best kind of nut/seed to consume in between meals and with meals. Ie, should omega 3 rich seeds be more consumed in between meals or with/before meals while the omega 6 rich ones in between? Or rather the oleic acid rich ones also with a meal (since I read omega 9 can also help absorb omega 3s) or in between meals.


Is there also a marked difference in "seeds" and "nuts"? I wouldn't think so though they all come in the form of a botanical fruit surrounding it.


See one can always go deeper.

[SunshineMN]

I was planning on using whole flax seed and using a mortar to grind them just before using it on salad or something. I've read that flax oil goes rancid quite quickly.

From what I understand most fruit can be combined with leafy greens but not other veggies. I like to eat an orange after a leafy green salad to help absorb iron as I tend to be anemic.

I also have some chlorella tablets coming. I'm excited to see what difference it will make in how I feel.

[The Sproutarian (Mr Raw)]

From the oil. That's very telling as the oil has no fiber... But what if you soak the whole seed over night, and then consume it? Not blending it either. And with a combination of other foods it might help to absorb it moreso would it not?

Flax is not very absorbable at all. Even using a mortar and pestle is tough going trying to grind it up.

You also talk about bad food combinations,as I've seen on your website.

Shhh, lets keep it quiet for now until i've done some more work on it. l made the mistake of including it in my signiture on that other site (shh) for a one off secret post (thinking nobody would look at it and realise it was from me), and then l realised that you posted there, so l got busted. *sheepish grin*

btw, lots of science behind the food combining. You would think that protein foods like nuts and seeds would combine well, but not so...there are scientific reason why they don't. Lets talk about that another day.

Non, l will get back to you later on.

[The Sproutarian (Mr Raw)]

I also have some chlorella tablets coming. I'm excited to see what difference it will make in how I feel.

The best stuff:
http://www.hippocratesstore.org/root...lorella-lg.htm

Highly absorbabe (unlike spirulina) and shown in clinical trials to be more effective than spirulina. This is repackaged Sun Chlorella A which normally costs about $180 for 1,500 tabs, but HHI repackaged it and reduced the cost to only $70.

l've tried various chlorella, but this is by far the best because it absorbs really well because they use the world class patented `dyno mill' method to crack the cell wall with minimal nutrient loss. Nothing worse than taking cheap brands of chlorella and vomiting 6 hours later [after detox] only to bring up up chlorella tablets still un-broken-down. lf you put the HHI/Sun Chlorella A in water they start melting away quick...doesn't even happen with the top spirulina brands.

Lots of chlorella companies (nearly all) make claims about cracking cell walls, but it is all rubbish.

Chlorella and AFA are my main algaes, especially chlorella with it's detox properies. l take two tablespoons of AFA and about 20 chlorella tablets each day, but it is costly, however l am doing it as part on an algae experiment for four to five years to see what the results are on my body. l also take about 5 or 6 spirulina tablets a day along with two tablespoons of sea vegetables. l try not overdoing it, but it does make me feel good when l take the algaes (with sprouts) over the day.

[delmar]

Chia in indirect light outside for 1 day v's chia for 5 days during winter - it gets a very deep rich green colour that is more beautiful than all other sprouts (the camera flash washes out the deep green)



FOOD RATINGS
Chia is classified scientifically as a four star food, where-as the best green vegetables (broccoli, spinach, kale) picked straight from the garden are classified as three star foods and probably even one star foods when bought from farmers markets or shops two weeks after being picked. Flowers are four star foods. Wheatgrass, chlorella, sea vegetables (kelp, dulse, arami, nori, wakame), spirulina, AFA/E3 live blue-green algae, weeds, buckwheat greens, sunflower greens, pea shoot greens are all five star foods. Alfalfa sprouts, broccoli sprouts, fenugreek sprouts, mung bean sprouts are all four star foods. And dehydrated foods and unsprouted nuts are one star foods. Sesame and sunflower sprouts are three star foods, but if the sunflower sprouts are allowed to grow into greens they become five star foods. Surprisingly, some fruits (tropical fruits like pine apple and mangoes) that are picked straight off the tree are also five star foods that will give as much energy as weeds or wheatgrass, BUT...if they are consumed hours after picking, that five star rating will quickly go down to a much lower rating. Many of the fruits from health food shops would barely be one star foods in my opinion because the electrical charge is all gone after three weeks.

So why do sprouted seeds have more sunlight than their mother plants? Because the sunlight is more concentrated over a smaller area of the plant, that's why broccoli sprouts are four star foods and mature broccoli is a three star food. And that why sprouts are more nutritious...because the nutrition from the seed is spread over a smaller area (the baby sprout) when compared with the larger area of the mother plant (that's my opinion). Babies>mothers. Some babies reach their peak nutrition after 4 days and then decline in nutrients per square mm because the seed power is spent, some babies like wheatgrass reach their peak after 7 days and then decline in nutrition.

So why do zero star foods give people energy? Because they force the body to work and get rid of them. lf you eat SAD, many of the the cells in the body lose their light and charge and look all dark. But if you drink wheatgrass, many of the cells show lots of light and electrical charge.

The higher the star rating, the higher sunlight in the food and the higher the bioelectrical electrical charge on the cells of the human body, and the more energy one obtains from the food.

You have weeds listed as 5 star. Can all weeds be equal?

[The Sproutarian (Mr Raw)]

You have weeds listed as 5 star. Can all weeds be equal?

lt's the same thing with green sprouts, nut/seed sprouts, legume sprouts, algaes and sea vegetables and soil based baby greens. They all develop certain ways and have similar nutritional impacts. Their nutritional profiles are all different, but they all contain overall similar nutritional impacts. Eg, Spirulina is similar to Chlorella, adzuki bean sprouts are similar to mung bean sprouts, kelp is similar to dulse, thistles are similar to dandelion.

l'm not sure why, but it seems to be an evolutionary thing according to Dr Clement. Eg, blue green algaes were [apparently] the first form of life to develop so they were the top in nutrition (all blue -green brothers and sisters are in a similar league). Green algae was the second life form to develop so they are the second most nutritious foods (all green brothers and sisters are similar). Grasses were the third life form to develop so they are the third most nutritious (the top sprout). Various seed sprouts were the forth life form to develop and are the forth most nutritious. Weeds were the fifth life form to develop and are the fifth most nutritious life form (all weed brothers and sisters are in a similar league). So...with evolution comes a certain general nutrition level of plants from the same type of family. Well, that's how it is supposed to work.

[Nippers]

The best stuff:
http://www.hippocratesstore.org/root...lorella-lg.htm

Highly absorbabe (unlike spirulina) and shown in clinical trials to be more effective than spirulina. This is repackaged Sun Chlorella A which normally costs about $180 for 1,500 tabs, but HHI repackaged it and reduced the cost to only $70.

l've tried various chlorella, but this is by far the best because it absorbs really well because they use the world class patented `dyno mill' method to crack the cell wall with minimal nutrient loss. Nothing worse than taking cheap brands of chlorella and vomiting 6 hours later [after detox] only to bring up up chlorella tablets still un-broken-down. lf you put the HHI/Sun Chlorella A in water they start melting away quick...doesn't even happen with the top spirulina brands.

Lots of chlorella companies (nearly all) make claims about cracking cell walls, but it is all rubbish.

Chlorella and AFA are my main algaes, especially chlorella with it's detox properies. l take two tablespoons of AFA and about 20 chlorella tablets each day, but it is costly, however l am doing it as part on an algae experiment for four to five years to see what the results are on my body. l also take about 5 or 6 spirulina tablets a day along with two tablespoons of sea vegetables. l try not overdoing it, but it does make me feel good when l take the algaes (with sprouts) over the day.

Keep everyone updated on your progress with this 5 year experiment. If it truly helps you, I might be interested in giving it a try.

How long does the $70 package last you? What would the cost be on a daily basis for this?

I want to see if it is something I can afford to do right now.

[MysticTree]

I think it depends on what your criteria are for defining weeds. The biggest plant population on my ground is Himalayan balsam then bramble them various leafy green weeds such as nettle, bitter cress, dandelion and plantains. They are all weeds.

[Non]

lt's the same thing with green sprouts, nut/seed sprouts, legume sprouts, algaes and sea vegetables and soil based baby greens. They all develop certain ways and have similar nutritional impacts. Their nutritional profiles are all different, but they all contain overall similar nutritional impacts. Eg, Spirulina is similar to Chlorella, adzuki bean sprouts are similar to mung bean sprouts, kelp is similar to dulse, thistles are similar to dandelion.

l'm not sure why, but it seems to be an evolutionary thing according to Dr Clement. Eg, blue green algaes were [apparently] the first form of life to develop so they were the top in nutrition (all blue -green brothers and sisters are in a similar league). Green algae was the second life form to develop so they are the second most nutritious foods (all green brothers and sisters are similar). Grasses were the third life form to develop so they are the third most nutritious (the top sprout). Various seed sprouts were the forth life form to develop and are the forth most nutritious. Weeds were the fifth life form to develop and are the fifth most nutritious life form (all weed brothers and sisters are in a similar league). So...with evolution comes a certain general nutrition level of plants from the same type of family. Well, that's how it is supposed to work.

So where do fruits come in?

[PansyLo]

What rice will sprout?

In a raw recipe book I have for a recipe I need sprouted wild rice but my mum couldn't find entire bags of wild rice so came back with a bag of white/wild rice mixed. I'm assuming you can't sprout white rice from the supermarket as it's bound to be processed or something?

I tried to google it and got mixed results. Most seem to agree that you can't sprout wild rice. Nobody talks about white rice.

What kind of rice do I need to get and does anyone know where I could get it?

[MysticTree]

Whole brown rice will sprout and I think wild rice will as long as it hasn't been heat treated first. White rice won't as you say.

[PansyLo]

So just brown rice from the supermarket should work?

I'm really struggling to find things to sprout which is disappointing.

[MysticTree]

As long as it's not easy cook rice then yes it should be fine. Same goes for lentils, chickpeas, mung and aduki beans, quinoa, millet, sunflower seeds, pumpkin seeds. I get most of mine from supermarket. Check out local health food shops for sprouting mixes. Interestingly, sproutpeople say that wild rice is nice just soaked. They can't get it to sprout apparently so maybe it's a tricky one.