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  1. #31

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arky View Post
    Hmm...thanks for the heads-up, DebB, well spotted!

    Personally, I don't own a Champion (I have an Oscar 900 / Omega 8006), but I'm sure Champion owners will be eager to use this new attachment.

    That said, I must confess that, on the basis of that video I am very unimpressed with the attachment (no reflection on John Kohler - I think he's great - very informative, enthusiastic, helpful and sincere, and really making a positive contribution to the health scene, on a number of levels).

    It simply isn't logical to juice cereal grasses or other leafy greens with an auger turning at 1700 RPM. If they wanted to make an attachment for the Champion to juice leafy greens, it would have required a reduction gearbox (which, of course, would require expensive engineering in order to make the gearing robust enough to handle the torsional stresses).

    As it is, I view it as, frankly, laughable for Champion to be offering this attachment - it's like trying to pound a big square peg into a tiny round hole. The Champion is great in certain areas (e.g. grinding root vegetables for subsequent squeezing in a manual hydraulic press such as the Health Stream) but juicing leafy greens is NOT one of the Champion's forte's and it never will be, until such time as the auger speed is reduced (by whatever method).

    If I owned a Champion and I didn't want to spend on an expensive second juicer for grasses and leafy greens, I'd consider the Lexen juicer (manual or electric) - Michael Bergonzi is a big advocate of the Lexen juicers for wheatgrass, and he's been in the game a very long time indeed. The Lexens are very competitively priced and a considerably more viable proposition for a Champion owner wanting to juice greens than spending $90 on a silly attachment that can't possibly overcome the limitations of an auger that runs insanely quickly...

    Of course, for another hundred, an Omega 8006 also does a superb job of greens, but that might be a bit too much to spend on a second juicer, hence my suggestion of the Lexen.

    Just my 2 cents, and I'm sure others will disagree. I mean no disrespect at all to owners of the Champion, least of all you, DebB. I'm just bemused at the manufacturer for seriously believing they are solving an issue with this attachment when, self-evidently, they are not.

    What do you currently do when you juice greens, DebB ?
    Hey Arky, it’s very curious how you could have so many negative opinions about a product that you’ve never used and about a company you have never dealt with.* You stated “It simply isn’t logical to juice cereal grasses …. At 1700 RPM.* Well take it from someone who has actually used the greens attachment, logical or not, Champion accomplished just that!* It does a great job of juicing wheatgrass and other greens (kale, celery, chard, spinach).* When comparing it to my Omega 8003, it juices faster, produces cooler juice, and is easier to clean.**
    Guess what?* It cost me $250 for my Omega and only $75 for the Champion Greens Attachment; sounds like a good deal to me.* Besides that, Champion does a much better job on everything else anyway, so I no longer have any use for my Omega and can get some extra money when I sell it.* As long as Champion stands behind this new product as well as they have stood behind my Champion juicer, I’ll be happy.

  2. #32

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arky View Post
    Hmm...thanks for the heads-up, DebB, well spotted!

    Personally, I don't own a Champion (I have an Oscar 900 / Omega 8006), but I'm sure Champion owners will be eager to use this new attachment.

    That said, I must confess that, on the basis of that video I am very unimpressed with the attachment (no reflection on John Kohler - I think he's great - very informative, enthusiastic, helpful and sincere, and really making a positive contribution to the health scene, on a number of levels).

    It simply isn't logical to juice cereal grasses or other leafy greens with an auger turning at 1700 RPM. If they wanted to make an attachment for the Champion to juice leafy greens, it would have required a reduction gearbox (which, of course, would require expensive engineering in order to make the gearing robust enough to handle the torsional stresses).

    As it is, I view it as, frankly, laughable for Champion to be offering this attachment - it's like trying to pound a big square peg into a tiny round hole. The Champion is great in certain areas (e.g. grinding root vegetables for subsequent squeezing in a manual hydraulic press such as the Health Stream) but juicing leafy greens is NOT one of the Champion's forte's and it never will be, until such time as the auger speed is reduced (by whatever method).

    If I owned a Champion and I didn't want to spend on an expensive second juicer for grasses and leafy greens, I'd consider the Lexen juicer (manual or electric) - Michael Bergonzi is a big advocate of the Lexen juicers for wheatgrass, and he's been in the game a very long time indeed. The Lexens are very competitively priced and a considerably more viable proposition for a Champion owner wanting to juice greens than spending $90 on a silly attachment that can't possibly overcome the limitations of an auger that runs insanely quickly...

    Of course, for another hundred, an Omega 8006 also does a superb job of greens, but that might be a bit too much to spend on a second juicer, hence my suggestion of the Lexen.

    Just my 2 cents, and I'm sure others will disagree. I mean no disrespect at all to owners of the Champion, least of all you, DebB. I'm just bemused at the manufacturer for seriously believing they are solving an issue with this attachment when, self-evidently, they are not.

    What do you currently do when you juice greens, DebB ?
    I've been juicing for 30+ years; have owned a Champion for 25 of those years, still do. While I use an Omega 8003 for my leafy greens, a friend has this attachment and it works beautifully. My Champion has been through thousands of juicings, I've had to replace the cutter a few times, but it just keeps on going. I own a dozen juicers now just because I like them; however, with this attachment I could confine myself to one. Don't be misled by all the hoopla over grinding speed; the best juicer is the one you'll use every day. I've done manual greens juicing (when camping) and it ain't fun at all.

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    grinding speed matters !!!!!!! a juicer like a champion , i own brand new commercial model , spins too fast and froths up and heats juices . plus alters tastes of soft things like tomato and pineapple . plus leaks out of the shute . it has a GREAT heavy duty GE motor ands thee most super heavy duty unit on market ive seen and may last for 50 years and do hard roots vegis well , but it still froths and heats . champion could have the best juicer on market if they slowed down rpms and redesigned grinding head to an auger type like on omega 8006 and such because the champion motor is way more powerful then others . but nobody listens to me so its a flawed design

    now how the new attachment works cant say yet as have not used , but at $75 damn dollars it better be awesome . way to gouge your customers that already payed $250 for juicer champion
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  4. #34

    Default Champion Juicer Wheat Grass Attachment

    I hope the following feedback will be helpful. I just bought one of these Champion wheat grass attachments here in the UK for my 16 year old Champion Juicer and I am thrilled to bits with it. I am impressed by the sturdiness of all the parts, just as you would expect from the manufacturer of such a durable juicer. I'll be surprised if the tough screen on this Champion attachment breaks, like the brittle screen on the old single auger wheat grass juicer I bought 7 years ago kept doing. I had to buy 5 replacement screens for it over the years. I've never yet had to buy a replacement part for my Champion Juicer.

    The Champion wg attachment does work extremely fast, too fast to have any chance of heating up the pulp or the juice it produces. The greens fly through the juicer in a second! To put the pulp through the recommended second time only takes a few extra seconds. Its fabulous! I like the fact that I don't have to stand and wait the way I did with my single auger juicer while it wobbled and ground its way through a slow speed juicing session (surely subjecting the greens to more friction and heat than the Champion wg attachment).

    Now I can juice every thing quickly in one juicer by just swapping over the juicing parts. I still have 2 sets of juicing parts to clean, but the Champion wg attachment is just as easy to clean as my old single auger juicer parts. I can now retire my single auger juicer and free up some counter space. Hoorah!

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    Barbara, if you haven't replaced your cutter in 16 years... then you obviously barely use your juicer. Even a champion needs that part replaced every two years.

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    I didn't realize anything had to be replaced with the Champion. Is the cutter the thing with the little spikes?

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    it is! you replace it, depending on use... every couple of years. i've replaced mine once... bought two of them so i just interchange the new ones. ;)
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    Unhappy green attachment

    Hello! I am just a beginner in this juicing world & bought an older champion on ebay. I thought I would need the green attach. I saw advertized so I bought one. My pulp from the spinach comes out soggy even when I put it thru the 2nd time. What's up? Did I make a big mistake by buying this expensive part? I can manually squeeze more juice out of the pulp after the 2nd time thru this attachment Can anyone shed some light on this for me?
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  9. #39

    Default Champion Juicer Wheat Grass Attachment & Cutter

    Quote Originally Posted by Aleesha View Post
    Barbara, if you haven't replaced your cutter in 16 years... then you obviously barely use your juicer. Even a champion needs that part replaced every two years.

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    Aleesha, I don't juice every day but I juice every weekend and my Champion's cutter still feels sharp to me. I have no problem with how it juices. It was my understanding that the Champion cutter could last a lifetime. Steel is a lot more durable than fruit and veg. I was told the zig zag steel cutter blades might wear down only if the juicer was being used many times a day, like for an intensive juicing therapy. It seems like a waste of money to change what appears to be a perfectly good, sharp cutter.

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    16 years times juicing twice every weekend gives you 1664 days of juicing... which is equal to 4.5 years of juicing daily.

    I've changed my cutter and I've owned my Champion for almost 4 years - got a new cutter at about the 3.5 year mark...

    ;) It may feel sharp but a new cutter makes a huge difference in the pulp and how wet it is when it leaves the juicer.


    Side note for others: I have a fasting client who picked up the attachment and loves it. She's thrilled with how it's working for her. So that's one "YES" in the world of 'who loves their greens attachment'.
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    Any other thoughts on this one?

    Thinking of getting one for my Champion but most the reviews I've read online say it's "so-so".

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    i haven't picked one up myself... since i own both a champion and greenstar. AND i find that cutting my greens up and putting them thru the champion is fine. that said... i don't do a lot of green juices and so i'm not talking about a lot of greens per juice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aleesha Sattva View Post
    i haven't picked one up myself... since i own both a champion and greenstar. AND i find that cutting my greens up and putting them thru the champion is fine. that said... i don't do a lot of green juices and so i'm not talking about a lot of greens per juice.
    I haven't gotten it either as I also have a Samson and it juices wheat grass wonderfully.

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    Default Have Champion Juicer

    I bought a champion juicer used and overall like the way it juices, however when I do leafy greens or soft fruit it is very frothy.
    How do you know if the cutter needs to be replaced? I have been considering the leafy greens attachment. If I can make the champion work for me i think it is better, made in USA, I support locally manufacured when I can.

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    how long have you been using your cutter? it takes about 2 years worth of regular juicing to need it replaced.

    and... i found that if i cut up the greens like i would for a salad, that it frothed less. but alas... frothing and juice often go hand in hand. personally i just mix it in or scoop it off the top depending on the juice and amount of froth. with pineapple juice... i eat it with a spoon and call it dessert!!!
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