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    Unhappy Hpv?

    Life threw me a curve ball this week; the doctors tell me I have HPV, the genital warts kind, maybe also the cancer kind, but they don't know yet. I'm transitioning into understanding what this means for me, my health, my sex life, my relationships --- it's both not all that bad, and also really devastating. For example, my boyfriend is really positive and supportive, and luckily he got checked out and shows no signs of having HPV, but keeping it that way might mean no more intercourse, and that's hard to think about. and you know, that's just gonna be my life now, with him and any other partners i might have.

    anyway, I heard it on the grapevine that your body can get rid of HPV in a matter of years if you have a really strong immune system. any thoughts? what foods are important for a strong immune system? I'm sure that just going 100% raw (which I am NOT AT ALL) would be a big boost to my body's defenses. Does regular exercise help? What kinds? I'm interested in Yoga; are there any kinds of yoga practices that would support me? any words of wisdom, or even just encouragement, would be really appreciated right now! thanks!:)
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    Sorry to hear about your news. I think that if you go on to some of the reputable sites like Dr Mercola and Jon Barron you will get info on immune boosting. I think that Dry Skin Brushing will help as will exercise and fresh air and especially sunshine.
    Your frame of mind is important so if you are not meditating then perhaps you could start.
    On the sex issue you may find that your boyfriend is just as satisfied with other forms (if you know what I mean)
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    Maybe this convo will help:

    From: Koal (99.199.42.248)
    Subject: HPV
    Date: March 14, 2009 at 3:54 am PST

    Dr D do you know if it is possible to ever get rid of the HPV virus?
    Would fasting (MC cleanse/juice or water fast)get rid of it?
    Has anyone ever cured this virus from fasting??

    From: Andrew (68.110.205.45)
    Subject: No idea, but this is nuts...
    Date: March 14, 2009 at 8:05 am PST

    In Reply to: HPV posted by Koal on March 14, 2009 at 3:54 am:

    This is from wikipedia:

    "HPV is estimated to be the most common sexually transmitted infection in the United States.[4] Most sexually active men and women will probably acquire genital HPV infection at some point in their lives.[5] The American Social Health Association reported estimates that about 75-80% of sexually active Americans will be infected with HPV at some point in their lifetime.[6][7] By the age of 50 more than 80% of American women will have contracted at least one strain of genital HPV.[8][9][10]"

    That's crazy! 80 percent?

    I'd like to hear Dr. Graham's thoughts on this as well.

    From: Dr. Doug Graham (DrGraham.vegsource.com)
    Subject: Re: No idea, but this is nuts...
    Date: March 14, 2009 at 1:43 pm PST

    In Reply to: No idea, but this is nuts... posted by Andrew on March 14, 2009 at 8:05 am:

    I am not certain what makes one think that it is not normal to have
    HPV?

    From: Mario C (68.3.76.17)
    Subject: Re: Why are we all Virus-Phobics?
    Date: March 14, 2009 at 11:56 am PST

    In Reply to: Actually posted by Andrew on March 14, 2009 at 8:14 am:

    Not well known, but well established, is the fact that virus-like genetic material (RNA) is often expressed from poisoned cellular tissue as an adaptive and defensive response to poisoning. Expressing virus-like genes is part of the cellular "SOS response" of cells engaged in accelerated genetic recombination. The so-called SARS virus can be interpreted as such a genetic expression occurring in humans, as well as the exotic animals, palm civet cats and raccoon dogs sold in Guangdong live animal markets and recently found positive for SARS.

    VIRUS IS US

    The cutting-edge biochemist, Howard Urnovitz, views SARS virus as human genes rearranged by pollution stress: "I do not see a virus. I see a unique and complete rearrangement of genomic elements. For example, when I look at what is believed to be the gene sequence coding for the spike protein of this coronavirus, I see a complicated gene rearrangement of a region of human chromosome. As I did in our studies of Gulf War Syndrome, when I see gene rearrangements like this, I immediately search for an associated catastrophic environmental event that could have caused such genomic rearrangement." (Emphasis added.)

    SARS epidemics correspond strongly with such "catastrophic environmental events."


    ONE MORE TIME JUST TO ALLOW IT TO SINK IN:

    "I do not see a virus. I see a unique and complete rearrangement of genomic elements. For example, when I look at what is believed to be the gene sequence coding for the spike protein of this coronavirus, I see a complicated gene rearrangement of a region of human chromosome. As I did in our studies of Gulf War Syndrome, when I see gene rearrangements like this, I immediately search for an associated catastrophic environmental event that could have caused such genomic rearrangement."


    Yes this is in reference to SARS virus. I know. The point is this quote applies not to only SARS. It applies to ALL viruses. HPV included.

    HPV correlates with sex. Guess what though? You know what else correlates with sex these days? Condoms, latex, chemicals, spermicides, birth control, IUDs, tampons and menstruation, toxins, chemicals, lotions, fragrances, etc etc etc.

    When I hear about viruses, I never think "small particles that invade the body from the outside."
    I ALWAYS think "hmm..cellular-mediated responses to toxins or irritants (including stressors of ALL stripes) that are coming into contact with various parts of the body, or having a deleterious or accumulative effect on certain regions or tissues in the body."
    So the next logical question is: What is causing the virus. People look at the virus as the cause. It isn't it never was. It is the EFFECT of something. Virus is a SYMPTOM, not a disease. No virus has ever caused disease by the way. Not one virus in the history of the study. That's amazing that science however, believes there are hundreds of thousands of them that do cause disease. It is inexcusable for this magnitude of a mistake to have taken place.

    Who suffers? The poor patients who put their trust in the good doctors and well intending experts.

    Shame.

    Viral particles are a normal aspect of ANY human body, healthy or unhealthy. When in a state of health, those particles will be a certain kind because they are maintaining the status quo. When in a state of disease, depending on the nature of the cause of the disease, the viral particle proliferation will be of a different nature. Thus we say "uhh ohh, DISEASE! Caused by the virus!" No.

    The fact is was and always will be that disease PRECEDES the virus expression. You never find the toxin, irritant or poison AFTER you find the virus. NEVER. You may find the SYMPTOMS of disease after you find the virus, but you never find the virus in absence of some kind of stressor. Our wonderful scientists are deficient in the means and ability to accurately gauge WHAT and WHERE the stressors are.

    I would advise against any vaccination for HVP. I would advise against pam smears, I would advise against any and all "anti-viral" medication.
    Why would I advise against anti-virals? Let's think about this for a second...viruses originate and are produced by the cell. They are not like bacteria with their own metabolism. Even the viral genetic code is found within our own genomes. To attack the virus is to attack the self. This is madness.

    What would I suggest? Eliminate any and all allergens, stressors, artificial birth control pills, IUDs, tampons (seriously...use pads for a few months and bite the bullet)...eliminate all possible toxins and then stay on a healthy diet for a few months...
    Go back and take one last and final test. I wouldn't be surprised if it came back negative. Matter of fact if you truly eliminated all stressors and engaged in healthy lifestyle (including not just an 811 based diet but also sun, exercise etc, which actually is part of 811 and natural hygiene anyway)...If you did all that, I would actually be surprised if you tested positive still.

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    Staying away from nuts. - They are high in Arginine which you want to consume little of, for the opposite consume foods high in Lysine (Fruit esp. papaya)
    Eating lots of fruit - anything high in vitamin C because this vit. helps to destroy toxins in the body.
    Staying away from processed foods.
    Controlling stress - focus on breathing
    Exercise- birkram yoga, jump on a rebounder, and lift weights, run...
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    I know from experience that sex within 36hrs can make a false positive along with diplitory creams and anything that goind inside of your body. I stopped using any chemicals in that area immediately and I had to have 1/2 of my cervix removed after birth. My juicing/praying/meditation healed me also but I do believe all the chemicals were a part of what was wrong. THe path nurse that was reading my slides was a patient of mine. She asked me questions bc each 6 weeks it was better. She confirmed all my thoughts. She said that sex within 36 hrs will make a false test bc of what the sperm does to the cervix and that sex can make the cervix looked bruised causing the false positive, the creams/condoms, even though latex free were not safe for our bodies. I had surgery and everything biopsied/scraped, you name it. PG, it all came back negative & stayed that way. We really need to be cautious about what we put into ourselves. I'm also cautious about my feelings of my body, telling it how much I love and need each part of it..no part is not important.
    the most amazing thing is that I read an article 18yrs b4 this happened to me. The girl was also pregnant, similar history. She began juicing carrots/celery, all kinds of positive things. When she had surgery, she was also healed!!
    take a day or so to look at this, see what may be invading your body and work to remove and heal. Positive thoughts to you!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by RawSar View Post
    VIRUS IS US

    The cutting-edge biochemist, Howard Urnovitz, views SARS virus as human genes rearranged by pollution stress: "I do not see a virus. I see a unique and complete rearrangement of genomic elements. For example, when I look at what is believed to be the gene sequence coding for the spike protein of this coronavirus, I see a complicated gene rearrangement of a region of human chromosome. As I did in our studies of Gulf War Syndrome, when I see gene rearrangements like this, I immediately search for an associated catastrophic environmental event that could have caused such genomic rearrangement." (Emphasis added.)

    SARS epidemics correspond strongly with such "catastrophic environmental events."

    nmental event that could have caused such genomic rearrangement."


    Yes this is in reference to SARS virus. I know. The point is this quote applies not to only SARS. It applies to ALL viruses. HPV included.

    HPV correlates with sex. Guess what though? You know what else correlates with sex these days? Condoms, latex, chemicals, spermicides, birth control, IUDs, tampons and menstruation, toxins, chemicals, lotions, fragrances, etc etc etc.

    When I hear about viruses, I never think "small particles that invade the body from the outside."
    I ALWAYS think "hmm..cellular-mediated responses to toxins or irritants (including stressors of ALL stripes) that are coming into contact with various parts of the body, or having a deleterious or accumulative effect on certain regions or tissues in the body."
    So the next logical question is: What is causing the virus. People look at the virus as the cause. It isn't it never was. It is the EFFECT of something. Virus is a SYMPTOM, not a disease. No virus has ever caused disease by the way. Not one virus in the history of the study. That's amazing that science however, believes there are hundreds of thousands of them that do cause disease. It is inexcusable for this magnitude of a mistake to have taken place.

    Who suffers? The poor patients who put their trust in the good doctors and well intending experts.

    Shame.
    Cancer cells also fit into this paradigm. It has been shown that healthy cells can change INTO cancer cells in acidic environment, then can change back INTO healthy cells in an alkaline environment - which is provided by a live food diet.
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