Wanted to share with you my weightloss story...

[freshlight]

I'm happy for you and your weight loss story too, I just hope you're not here to try and push 80-10-10 on people like I've seen you do on other sites...

That's NOT what this site is about

wow, this doesn't sound friendly at all! It's impossible to push anything at all on folks imo.

you are beautiful, freelee, thank you so much for sharing your story with us. I loved your blog and my son (11) enjoyed looking at the pictures.

Especially the one with 1000 durians on it,- yum yum!!!!

[Dianne K.]

Hi there .I am going to check out your videos soon.Hello there.

[freelee]

Thanks so much ladies! Lovely messages thankyou :)

Haha no pushing just sharing my experience and success on my raw fruity path. I am passionate about others health and well-being and believe everyone should have as much varied information as possible to assist them on their journey to health.
I am just here sharing my successes... no not to convert anyone to 811, I don't feel i have the power to convert anyone anyway, that is a personal choice, I'm also not that way inclined nor do i have that sort of time to convert others! :)

I do find it challenging not to tell peeps about my journey because I honestly feel great and would love others to feel this too... and I do agree with freshlight when she says it's impossible to push anything on anyone, peeps are free to bypass my journey if they choose, its all good.

Please don't be concerned Im not going to fly all over the forum with the 811/LFRV message! I would like to share occasionally though :)

Thanks again ladies X

[Mary Kay]

I can't say that I really felt you were PUSHING either..I got more the feeling that you are sharing - maybe just pushing a little.

But I WOULD! like to talk about 811 for a moment. My not-quite-scientific thoughts are that it is absolutely great for cleansing and healing in the beginning, but I'm wondering about the longterm. I mean you come off SAD, and you start eating real food, and good things are certain to happen.

I can see a young active guy being 811, but have a hard time seeing a menopausal woman, who probably needs more fat, thriving on it.

Are there other places to go to read up on some longterm 811'ers?
I have read Jinjee's experiences with women who did not do well on 811.

I haven't really been a true believer in 811, but I must say, I substitute more fat for fruit than I should, so would do better to apply a few of its principles!

I don't have much of an excuse either as my dh is a fruit farmer - mostly apples.
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These are rhetorical thoughts too: It's funny how one scientifically-minded doc or guru can say one thing, yet another can say something different. Maybe? they all have points: either some fare well on some diets and others do better on other diets: OR the human body is so versatile, it can survive on all kinds of different diets. Geez, look at the crap some people "live" on. Yes, I know, they're not living to their fullest potention ---but geez, they're alive!

I'm respecting people whether raw or not, meat eaters or not---just so long as they eat REAL food. And if they do eat meat, that it not be from factory farms.
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Just thinking out loud. Know some of you might have some thoughts to share about some of these points.

Thanks for listening.

Mary Kay

[Nini]

I really enjoyed reading your blog. I've been on it for 2 hours!

You have motivated me.:)

[Moretta]

Welcome and good luck on your RAWNESS journey.

Your story was inspirational. Thanks for sharing.

[stellaJewels]

Didn't mean to sound harsh, but like I said, I've seen freelee on OTHER raw food sites and she's treated others VERY harshly regarding 811, especially if they said it didn't work for them and they ran into the same problems we hear over and over about the diet. I didn't want that to be brought here.

This isn't just a raw food site, it's Alissa Cohen's raw food site, based on her philosophy of eating, which I happen to believe in. I would never go on Doug Graham's personal site that discusses his philosophy to share the health benefits I've found from following Alissa's path. I just think it's rude.

So I thought I'd speak up and stop any drama from happening before it could begin. (Although I may have caused a bit instead, sorry about that...) It's been said before, if people want to learn about and try 811, there are plenty of other sites they can visit to learn about it. I really like this site and everyone on it seems so nice and open and honest about their journey and I wanted to protect that...

[Krayton]

I read Alissa's groundrules when I signed up and am pretty sure they included not to push other versions of a raw vegan diet (e.g. 80-10-10, etc). When I want to get beaten up for opposing 80-10-10, I can go over to rawfoodsupport.com and get my butt kicked notwithstanding the weight of evidence that too much high sugar fruit (e.g. bananas) can add to AGE levels in raw vegans and unnecessarily overtax the glycemic load.

http://www.rawfoodtalk.com/showthread.php?t=33779

"We totally support you in that process but we are now committing this board to the support of a raw and living food diet as outlined in Alissa’s book and DVD. Does this mean that you HAVE to be 100% raw in order to post here? No, but it does mean that you have to be in support of this diet and those who are striving to be 100% raw, again, in accordance with Alissa's book and DVD.

What this means:

1. No threads/discussions dedicated to “other” approaches to raw foods. This includes such diets as 8-1-1, [emphasis added] low-fat, low-fruit, natural hygiene, fruitarian, raw meat/dairy-eating, mono-eating, no-grains, no-fruit etc. There are boards dedicated to almost every approach to raw foods such as these mentioned above. But they will not be discussed in detail here and promoted here. Again, this board is for support of a raw and living food diet as outlined in Alissa’s book and DVD. If you don’t own the book and are not familiar with Alissa’s concept for eating raw, it is stated further down below these rules and guidelines".

Didn't mean to sound harsh, but like I said, I've seen freelee on OTHER raw food sites and she's treated others VERY harshly regarding 811, especially if they said it didn't work for them and they ran into the same problems we hear over and over about the diet. I didn't want that to be brought here.

This isn't just a raw food site, it's Alissa Cohen's raw food site, based on her philosophy of eating, which I happen to believe in. I would never go on Doug Graham's personal site that discusses his philosophy to share the health benefits I've found from following Alissa's path. I just think it's rude.

So I thought I'd speak up and stop any drama from happening before it could begin. (Although I may have caused a bit instead, sorry about that...) It's been said before, if people want to learn about and try 811, there are plenty of other sites they can visit to learn about it. I really like this site and everyone on it seems so nice and open and honest about their journey and I wanted to protect that...

[Green_Woman]

Didn't mean to sound harsh, but like I said, I've seen freelee on OTHER raw food sites and she's treated others VERY harshly regarding 811, especially if they said it didn't work for them and they ran into the same problems we hear over and over about the diet. I didn't want that to be brought here.

I don't think it will be! :) There are so many folks on here regularly that are concerned with keeping things straightforward and based around Alissa's books and advise, now!

I haven't seen it get crazy on here in a few months, and I'm SO DEEPLY appreciative of the wonderful Moderators who are keeping the tone set here!!!

[marc]

you sher an nice ex off what can raw food can do.

i would like to say you are a real nice woman to start wit to.;)

this is just great.

saw you on 30bad site a few days back

good blog to ,you have.

marc

[freelee]

Thanks again ladies Seems like there's been a bit of activity here...

StellaJewels please please show me where I have been very harsh with others? I am never rude to other peeps. I am really quite suprised at your comments, considering you don't know me. I simply help peeps see where they have gone raw as far as 811 goes but that's it, a lot of peeps will say they've tried 811 but haven't even read the book and as anyone knows its always important to read the directions first when embarking on a new program.

Alissa doesn't need protecting from me !lol! Like I said before I'm here to share my experience just as you are. I respect Alissa's rules, I know it can be challenging running a forum, keeping everyone happy. I also don't feel I need to justify for posting here.

Hey Mary Kay I would love to talk about 811 as I know it like the back of my hand since discovering it in 2006 but I respect Alissa's rules, I feel like I may be banned if I speak about fruit here but by all means email me.


Thanks Nini, Marc, Diane, Moretta and everyone else who popped in with their support

[Green_Woman]

Free - You don't get banned for talking about Fruit or we'd all be banned. ;) In all my days here (and I first discovered Alissa and this board in 2006) I don't think I've ever seen anyone banned (except spammers who were obviously not Rawbies)

Hey everyone, take a chill pill and drink some GREEN SMOOTHIE and let's play nice.

I promise I will if you will.

*giggles*

[freelee]

haha cool Green woman :) I'm only here to play nice I promise. I just had a smoothie actually, feelin' pretty chilled X

[Green_Woman]

I feel a little stoked myself today.... I had 2 quarts of GS for my meals today, and it's like putting the highest purity gasoline in my little Nissan... puts me in a clean-running, high-energy mode.

[Krayton]

Thanks again ladies Seems like there's been a bit of activity here...

I was warned when I signed up there weren't a lot of men here. Their loss.

Drew.