The Juicer Thread - Here's All The Threads Covering All The Juicers

**EternityRider** · 01-09-2009 10:41 PM

Hi everyone

It seems every other day there's another "Which is the best Juicer?" thread.
So I thought I'd pull them all together to make it easier
rather than just starting a lot more new threads. ;)

There's already a Goldmine of information here on juicers of all kinds.
Many people have poured out their hearts with
very valuable information and experiences.

These threads were carefully checked to make sure
they were only about juicers,
not about juicing, or other topics
not directly related to the
juicers themselves.

I did include just a few threads referring to juicers folks had already purchased,
with questions & issues that might concern a new buyer.

This did take a lot of work, but it was done with the idea
of helping others who didn't want to do all the digging.
This is understandable.
Here it is.
Enjoy! :)

**EternityRider** · 01-09-2009 10:45 PM

**EternityRider** · 01-09-2009 10:46 PM

**spicyfull** · 01-10-2009 01:27 AM

You are So SWEET and SPECIAL to take the time to do this. In other World....YOU RAWk........

**EternityRider** · 01-10-2009 01:47 AM

What a nice thing to say. Thank you, spicyful.

I'll be coming back time to time with more info that I hope will be helpful, and try to sort out some of the confusion. i think a lot of folks have done a good job at that already. A lot of great posts in these threads..

:)

**EternityRider** · 01-10-2009 03:09 AM

**HolyGuacamole** · 01-10-2009 03:47 AM

Um, wow. THANKS! <3

**EternityRider** · 01-10-2009 05:12 AM

A Juicer Glossary

Here's just a few basic terms you'll need to know to help you select the best juicer or your needs.

Types of Juicers

Centrifugal Juicers

Centrifugal Juicers are probably the most common. These juicers grind the fruit and vegetables by pushing them against a shredder at a very high speed. The shredder disk/grater, which revolves at about 3600 RPM or faster and is usually very loud. Some people say the heat generated destroys a large percentage of the nutrients and enzymes. Their main drawback is that they inject oxygen into the juice, causing oxidation which degrades the juice quickly. But they do produce the juice quickly.

Masticating Juicers

A little slower than centrifugal juicers but still quite fast. These types of juicers chew the pulp and then push it through a sieve (or sleeve).. Masticating chews pulp to further break down the cell-wall structure.

Slow Turning/Gear/Auger Juicers

These machines turn at a lot slower speed and are generally considered far superior when it comes to retaining as many nutrients and enzymes as possible in your juice. They can be slower to juice but can do basically everything that a centrifugal and masticating juicer can do and more, such as extracting juice from wheatgrass more effectively.

Single Auger

The single auger masticating juicer uses a profiled screw style molding to compact and crush fruit and vegetable matter against a static screen allowing juice to flow through the screen while pulp is expelled through a separate outlet.

Twin Gear

Twin gear machines are usually the most expensive juicers offering the best juice yield. Twin gear juicers employ two metal counter rotating gears to crush the juicing fodder. The precise tolerance of the gears allows the juice to flow through the gap between the gears while the large pulpy matter passes along the top of the gears and is discharged.

Triturate or Triturating Juicers

Twin Gear Juicers may also be correctly termed Triturate Juicers. "Triturate" is defined as "To rub, crush, grind, or pound into fine particles or a powder; pulverize." A triturate juicer does not rub, crush, or grind fruits and vegetables into a fine powder, but they do crush and grind produce to produce juice. These low-speed, precision engineered machines do not produce significant heat, do not promote oxidation and do not disrupt the cellular structure of the fruits and vegetables. The low speed also eliminates oxidation to the juices, therefore, preserving the precious enzymes and nutrients that are such a beneficial part of our diet.

The Heavyweights

Everyone and their dog has a juicer out there, but only a handful are really popular. Here's just a few for openers.

Weight and horsepower are not everything. For instance, the most reliable VCRs ever built were consistently made by Matsushita of Japan.. (Panasonic, Quasar, Magnavox..) The Consumer Reports repair index bore this out for many years. But these VCRs weren't always the heaviest.

(Consumer Reports doesn't rate juicers).

But, generally speaking, heavier products have been known for their metal parts instead of plastic, better alloys, superior parts integrity.

It would be hard to find a "bad" juicer out there. It's possible. But they are generally well made, relevant to their price range. More than anything else, it comes down to what kind of investment you want to make. If you want a get-me-by juicer, go cheap. If you want long lasting durability, check out some of the ratings that are available.

Here's some heavyweight contenders, for those who take sheer power seriously. I do. We can't realistically expect the same performance out of a 4 cylinder engine as we would a 460 V8. Not the best example, I know, cuz these things are such gas guzzlers. But it makes the point. Given the same load conditions or test criteria, no one would expect them to perform the same.

When it comes to juicers, and course, heavy foodstuffs, the more powerful machines are bound to last longer.

But, on the other hand, some folks don't use their juicer that much, drive it as hard, or will be ramming down tons of hefty carrots, stringy vegetables and other demanding things on a regular basis. Maybe their use is lightweight, and a lighter juicer would be just fine.

There are other factors too, like twin gear and so forth, much like downshifting your vehicle when going up steep hills. If you don't, you "lug" your engine, which will result in eventual damage. More on that later.

Attachments/accessories are important to some as well. These are very nice too, but I wouldn't make gadgetry my first consideration.

Here's a couple of Hulk class juicers, beginning with the top dogs:

1) The augie doggies - the "auger" type juicers

2) The "masticating" type. These are listed alphabetically.

Champion International - 26 lb - 1/3 HP motor

Green Star Gold/Power Juicer GP-E1503 - 26 lb - 1/4 HP

Here's a couple of middleweights - still very good juicers:

Omega 8005 - 15 lb - 1/3 HP

Samson KPE-1304 13 lb 7 oz - 1/4 HP

Here's a couple of weighty CENTRIFUGAL models:

Whoa!! We be juiced!!!juiced!!! Whoa!! We be juiced!!!

Breville Juice Fountain Elite 800JEXL - 21 lb - 1.33 HP (!)

Note: The 1.33 hp spec is not the actual motor. This is accomplished by mechanical advantage - an output ratio based on a lower gear. Breville obscures the actual motor size here. (Couldn't find it anywhere on the net). But this is still one Monster of a Juicer, and I'd LOVE to have one.

Omega 9000 - 13 lb - 1/3 HP

**EternityRider** · 01-10-2009 04:10 PM

The Ultimate HeavyWeight Household/Commercial Juicer

Mighty THOR the Thunderer - Odinson from Asgard, protector of Midgard (earth), Thor wields mystic mjolner (his sacred hammer), known to be the most powerful weapon in the universe.

The Norwalk Juicer - weighing in at a whopping 58 lbs, with a 1/2 HP motor (!!).. this beast is beyond any normal household juicer. This is the dream machine from Asgard.

Here's a demonstration video of this thing:

http://www.nwjcal.com/video.htm

Model 270
List Price: $2299.95
Market Price: $1500 - $2000
Ebay: $1400 -

Effective 1 January 2009 Norwalk will introduce the 75th Anniversary Model 275 machine. Prices for this model will be $2,395 for the appliance colors and $2,495 for the stainless finish. Model 270 machines will be available until then at the current prices while supplies last.

The Top Heavyweight Household Juicer

- "Hulk Smash Carrot!"

The HULK: Weighing in at 26 lbs, with a 1/3 HP motor - musclebound!
Basically a gargantuan motor with a juicer around it.

In hand to hand combat, sinew for sinew, Hulk can best Mighty Thor. But Thor's sacred hammer exceeds Hulk's strongest of blows, even when Hulk is mad. Also, the magick mallet is so "heavy", (by virtue of its magick) it can't even be lifted by anyone unworthy.

The Champion Juicer (Masticating)

List Price: $300.00 USD
Market: $209.99 and up
Ebay (Used):Around $50 and up

**michigan roman** · 01-10-2009 04:49 PM

wow

very valuable thread er , good thinking !!!!

**Aleesha Sattva** · 01-10-2009 05:20 PM

bear huggins!

**EternityRider** · 01-10-2009 08:24 PM

Originally Posted by Aleesha

bear huggins!

Bear huggins back to you & Michigan Roman!

We's got juicin' to do!

Brother Bear

**EternityRider** · 01-11-2009 02:31 AM

The Next Heavyweight Household Juicer (Twin Screw Press)

"It's Clobbering Time!"

The THING: Weighing in at 26 lbs, with a 1/4 HP motor

Green Star Gold Juice Extractor
(Formerly called "Green Power")

GP-E1503

This Twin Speed bad boy is more versatile, unlike The Hulk who uses sheer, brute force for everything he does. The GP-E1503 offers a lower RPM (speed) for better extraction. This model is also designed for juicing wheatgrass. It's 1/4 HP motor is not as strong as Hulk's 1/3 HP. And specs like "4hp equivalent w/gear reduction" is simply in reference to a lower gear, which offers greater output as a form of mechanical advantage.

List Price: $660
Market $479 & up
Ebay: $199

Next Contender Up - the Solo Star II (Middleweight Div). Stay tuned..

**HolyGuacamole** · 01-11-2009 08:05 AM

Marvelous.

**eachpeachpearplum** · 01-11-2009 03:10 PM

Wow, thank you sooooo much EternityRider, this will be of great help to many!

I thought I would add to the wealth of information you have so generously provided. This summer I had wanted to do Angela Stokes Juice Feast and thus went on a mission to wade through the sea of CONFLICTING juicer info. I am not a complete novice as I have been juicing for three years with my full size Breville, I bought when first starting out.

I read and viewed everything out there and came to the conclusion that a conclusion is far from straight forward. So I decided to do what I do with most of my decisions and use my head – it’s not like I have a lab where I can test all the theory’s and claims bouncing around!

I was THIS CLOSE to buying a very expensive second hand Greenstar Gold juicer on craigslist when I came across the youtube videos below. It was as if someone turned on a light in a dark room! . . . . . .JUICING IN A BLENDER

How simple! How easy! How quick! How inexpensive! Ok, so I already have a Vita Mix and the mesh straining bags and the veg. All I had to do to test this theory was to give it a go! . . . . . . . . . . OMG!!!

This process made the single best juice I have ever had and I’ve been juicing for years too. I have had juice out of just about every machine bar the Norwalk press. What was so great you may ask?

So what I do to make juice in a blender is:

1. fill container with veg plus about a 1/4c. water if needed. Blend minimal time but thoroughly. You want an apple sauce consistancy.

2. Strain out pulp with mesh bag over glas bowl - preferably with pouring lip. Drink up or store. Yum!

Now sometime I actually like to go one step further - not for fasting obviously - I put the juice back into the blending jug add more greens and blend again. Do not strain. Drink up!

It was:

super fast
super quick easy clean-up
the smoooothest creamy juice ever

The juice it’s self was off the scale wonderful so very different in taste and texture. It tasted more whole as if I was drinking much more of the plant than I get from conventional machines it also seemed to have much less acidic taste or bite just smoooothness.

I’m sure many will want to reply why this process is not a good way to juice your produce but this way works best for me, It feels right. I love it and strongly encourage you to give it a try it; it’s not going to cost you anything!

Please have a look at the juicing in a blender links below:

AMENDMENT 8/2009: It has come to my attention that some of the link below are no longer active. Please just type in "Juicing in a blender" on youtube and you will get loads of examples! Cheers, EPPP :-)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3UdSL...eature=related Make 2 cups RAW juice & clean juicer in less than 45 seconds; EPPP’s NOTE: this is the video that really shifted my perception of juicing. Great demo of juicing with a blender!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XeZnXT1r88k Juicing successfully with an BASIC non-high powered blender

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4yEN...eature=related How to Make Green Juice with a Nut Bag (The Renegade Health Show) EPPP’s NOTE: green juice in a blender with Kevin Giani.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MiRiyKGDqhc Blending wheatgrass #1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Vk9XYOkkv8&NR=1 #2 straining wheatgrass from a blender

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03YyB-8rglc Carrot juice w/o a juicer. EPPP’s NOTE: This is a good video to show juicing carrots in a blender HOWEVER, you will see that her does not use the tamper with the other blenders, only using it on the 3hp. I have a 2hp VM and with a tamper I get the same results as his 3hp. I also do like to ad about 1/8-1/4c. water which make a HUGE difference.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jp4SzDD5QDk Angela Stokes-Monarch

Enjoy!

EPPP

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