The Juicer Thread - Here's All The Threads Covering All The Juicers

**EternityRider** · 01-09-2009 10:41 PM

Hi everyone

It seems every other day there's another "Which is the best Juicer?" thread.
So I thought I'd pull them all together to make it easier
rather than just starting a lot more new threads. ;)

There's already a Goldmine of information here on juicers of all kinds.
Many people have poured out their hearts with
very valuable information and experiences.

These threads were carefully checked to make sure
they were only about juicers,
not about juicing, or other topics
not directly related to the
juicers themselves.

I did include just a few threads referring to juicers folks had already purchased,
with questions & issues that might concern a new buyer.

This did take a lot of work, but it was done with the idea
of helping others who didn't want to do all the digging.
This is understandable.
Here it is.
Enjoy! :)

**EternityRider** · 01-09-2009 10:45 PM

**EternityRider** · 01-09-2009 10:46 PM

**spicyfull** · 01-10-2009 01:27 AM

You are So SWEET and SPECIAL to take the time to do this. In other World....YOU RAWk........

**EternityRider** · 01-10-2009 01:47 AM

What a nice thing to say. Thank you, spicyful.

I'll be coming back time to time with more info that I hope will be helpful, and try to sort out some of the confusion. i think a lot of folks have done a good job at that already. A lot of great posts in these threads..

:)

**EternityRider** · 01-10-2009 03:09 AM

**michigan roman** · 01-10-2009 04:49 PM

wow

very valuable thread er , good thinking !!!!

**Aleesha Sattva** · 01-10-2009 05:20 PM

bear huggins!

**EternityRider** · 01-10-2009 08:24 PM

Originally Posted by Aleesha

bear huggins!

Bear huggins back to you & Michigan Roman!

We's got juicin' to do!

Brother Bear

**EternityRider** · 01-11-2009 02:31 AM

The Next Heavyweight Household Juicer (Twin Screw Press)

"It's Clobbering Time!"

The THING: Weighing in at 26 lbs, with a 1/4 HP motor

Green Star Gold Juice Extractor
(Formerly called "Green Power")

GP-E1503

This Twin Speed bad boy is more versatile, unlike The Hulk who uses sheer, brute force for everything he does. The GP-E1503 offers a lower RPM (speed) for better extraction. This model is also designed for juicing wheatgrass. It's 1/4 HP motor is not as strong as Hulk's 1/3 HP. And specs like "4hp equivalent w/gear reduction" is simply in reference to a lower gear, which offers greater output as a form of mechanical advantage.

List Price: $660
Market $479 & up
Ebay: $199

Next Contender Up - the Solo Star II (Middleweight Div). Stay tuned..

**HolyGuacamole** · 01-11-2009 08:05 AM

Marvelous.

**eachpeachpearplum** · 01-11-2009 03:10 PM

Wow, thank you sooooo much EternityRider, this will be of great help to many!

I thought I would add to the wealth of information you have so generously provided. This summer I had wanted to do Angela Stokes Juice Feast and thus went on a mission to wade through the sea of CONFLICTING juicer info. I am not a complete novice as I have been juicing for three years with my full size Breville, I bought when first starting out.

I read and viewed everything out there and came to the conclusion that a conclusion is far from straight forward. So I decided to do what I do with most of my decisions and use my head – it’s not like I have a lab where I can test all the theory’s and claims bouncing around!

I was THIS CLOSE to buying a very expensive second hand Greenstar Gold juicer on craigslist when I came across the youtube videos below. It was as if someone turned on a light in a dark room! . . . . . .JUICING IN A BLENDER

How simple! How easy! How quick! How inexpensive! Ok, so I already have a Vita Mix and the mesh straining bags and the veg. All I had to do to test this theory was to give it a go! . . . . . . . . . . OMG!!!

This process made the single best juice I have ever had and I’ve been juicing for years too. I have had juice out of just about every machine bar the Norwalk press. What was so great you may ask?

So what I do to make juice in a blender is:

1. fill container with veg plus about a 1/4c. water if needed. Blend minimal time but thoroughly. You want an apple sauce consistancy.

2. Strain out pulp with mesh bag over glas bowl - preferably with pouring lip. Drink up or store. Yum!

Now sometime I actually like to go one step further - not for fasting obviously - I put the juice back into the blending jug add more greens and blend again. Do not strain. Drink up!

It was:

super fast
super quick easy clean-up
the smoooothest creamy juice ever

The juice it’s self was off the scale wonderful so very different in taste and texture. It tasted more whole as if I was drinking much more of the plant than I get from conventional machines it also seemed to have much less acidic taste or bite just smoooothness.

I’m sure many will want to reply why this process is not a good way to juice your produce but this way works best for me, It feels right. I love it and strongly encourage you to give it a try it; it’s not going to cost you anything!

Please have a look at the juicing in a blender links below:

AMENDMENT 8/2009: It has come to my attention that some of the link below are no longer active. Please just type in "Juicing in a blender" on youtube and you will get loads of examples! Cheers, EPPP :-)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3UdSL...eature=related Make 2 cups RAW juice & clean juicer in less than 45 seconds; EPPP’s NOTE: this is the video that really shifted my perception of juicing. Great demo of juicing with a blender!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XeZnXT1r88k Juicing successfully with an BASIC non-high powered blender

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4yEN...eature=related How to Make Green Juice with a Nut Bag (The Renegade Health Show) EPPP’s NOTE: green juice in a blender with Kevin Giani.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MiRiyKGDqhc Blending wheatgrass #1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Vk9XYOkkv8&NR=1 #2 straining wheatgrass from a blender

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03YyB-8rglc Carrot juice w/o a juicer. EPPP’s NOTE: This is a good video to show juicing carrots in a blender HOWEVER, you will see that her does not use the tamper with the other blenders, only using it on the 3hp. I have a 2hp VM and with a tamper I get the same results as his 3hp. I also do like to ad about 1/8-1/4c. water which make a HUGE difference.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jp4SzDD5QDk Angela Stokes-Monarch

Enjoy!

EPPP

**EternityRider** · 01-11-2009 04:46 PM

Originally Posted by eachpeachpearplum

I was THIS CLOSE to buying a very expensive second hand Greenstar Gold juicer on craigslist when I came across the youtube videos below. It was as if someone turned on a light in a dark room! . . . . . .JUICING IN A BLENDER [/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT]

EPPP - Thank you sooo much for sharing your what you did.

I am a HUGE fan of exploring inexpensive ways to these things.. especially for the sake of folks of modest means. Blending wheatgrass is a viable alternative to expensive juicers, or relatively inexpensive manual juicers (which still run around $60 for anything well-constructed, unless you go used).

Also, I am not one to major on minors as far as spending 500% more for a 5% better juice. The main burden of this thread is twofold:

1) To make the process of deciding easier for others.

2) To determine which juicers are the most durable, in spite of some misleading motor specs and getting dazzled by gadgetry. In a word - what are basically the best investments in juicers, in terms of substance.. in hardware quality?

This leads to a very important question. When you say "juicing by blending", are you talking about blending it, then basically just drinking it?

I didn't see anything in what you shared about separating the juice from the pulp.

If you are referring simply to blended drinks, these would be smoothies.

In fairness to you, these might, in the looser sense of "juice", be thought of as pulpy juice. That's okay, and I LOVVVVVE smoothies.

But the terms must be distinguished for a very major reason, due to application.

Technically speaking, "juice" is what is extracted from the pulp.

This is similar (tho not the same) as broth derived from a foodstuff, or tea from an herb.

One reason this is so important is because of faster absorption into the bloodstream, without the hindrance or digestive burden of dealing with pulp. This has therapeutic advantage, as well as the simple matter of personal taste.

But, more importantly, in the ancient practice of fasting, the difference is far more manifest. By nature and general definition, fasting means the cessation of all solid food, i.e. anything with pulp in it. Once this happens, the peristaltic motion of the large intestine stops. After 3 days or so, "hunger" pangs stop (natural stomach contractions), and the body enjoys a nice break. During this time, the energies are expended elsewhere, to remove toxins, expedite cellular repair, and so forth.

Natural diet accomplishes cleansing too. There will never be a conflict between these two approaches because they are really one in purpose and direction. The difference is that fasting (done responsibly) accomplishes this quicker. It is also a great tool in emergency situations when things must happen fast. Fasting is not a substitute for natural diet, but rather a wonderful compliment to it.

Some have a strong aversion to fasting while others naturally gravitate to it. All is okay here. I would only point out that fasting becomes more critical as you get older, as various toxins, pollutants & debris have had more time to accumulate in the vital organs and tissues. (Most of us were raised on a s.a.d. diet).

Blessings,

brother bear

**eachpeachpearplum** · 01-11-2009 07:00 PM

Originally Posted by EternityRider

EPPP - Thank you sooo much for sharing your what you did.

I am a HUGE fan of exploring inexpensive ways to these things.. especially for the sake of folks of modest means. Blending wheatgrass is a viable alternative to expensive juicers, or relatively inexpensive manual juicers (which still run around $60 for anything well-constructed, unless you go used).

This leads to a very important question. When you say "juicing by blending", are you talking about blending it, then basically just drinking it?

I didn't see anything in what you shared about separating the juice from the pulp.

HA ha ha!

Great additional info in post #17!

I cannot believe I left this out! I was so excited by your thread it slipped my mind!

So what I do to make juice in a blender is:

1. fill container with veg plus about a 1/4c. water if needed. Blend minimal time but thoroughly. You want an apple sauce consistancy.

2. Strain out pulp with mesh bag over glas bowl - preferably with pouring lip. Drink up or store. Yum!

Now sometime I actually like to go one step further - not for fasting obviously - I put the juice back into the blending jug add more greens and blend again. Do not strain. Drink up!

Thanks a bunch for pointing out my omission!

BTW: I no longer use my $400 Breville. It's still a great machine and easy to clean but the juice just tasts so much better this way - to me!

EPPP

**EternityRider** · 01-11-2009 07:15 PM

Originally Posted by eachpeachpearplum

HA ha ha!
Thanks a bunch for pointing out my omission!

EPPP

Well, blending and straining is indeed an option! I won't put grass in my Champion because it bogs. It works, but I don't want to overdo it. Blending is an excellent option here! Or possibly chopping up the grass in small segments before going in Juicer. This is where units like the Green Star (upper model) really shine.

So then the natural question arises..

Why don't we all just use blenders?

This has been debated before.
While not crazy about debates, here's some possible answers:

1) Quantity and Speed - Juicing goes a lot faster in an actual juicer for those who wish to make large quantities. Plus, no need to strain, generally speaking.

2) By straining, you won't get ALL the juice out of the pulp. A minor consideration, to be sure. The best juicers will extract more from the pulp.

3) Some do not want their juices diluted. Another minor consideration, but it still matters to some.

4) The need for a New Toy, lol - the biggest, baddest mega-beast juicer on the block.

(Maybe it's a guy thing, lol).

I'm sure there are other reasons.. lol.

P.S. - I know some Fasting Bandits who would LOVE to get their paws on your Breville! LOL.

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