Blanket statement "as long as it's raw"

[Sharon in Colorado]

Does anyone else take issue with this? When someone says "as long as it's raw" you can eat it, or "don't get fanatic"....seems to give anyone license to eat whatever they want. Why would some people think it's fanatic when others are trying to limit their nut intake, or even keep track of their caloric intake?

[Peter Parker]

agreed. No matter how raw something is if you eat more calories than you spend you will gain weight.

Ive read in several places that peoples intake of fat goes a lot higher when becoming raw dues to nuts and avocados and the likes....

Im trying to limit mine considerably. While I like this lifestyle its not the most tasteful. If Im going to lose 2 to 3 lbs a week, excuse me, but hell I can do that on any diet.

[angelandarose]

. While I like this lifestyle its not the most tasteful.

Wow, just the opposite is true for me. I have found this to be the MOST tasteful diet I've ever been on. I have found this to be the most freeing diet I've ever been on. I have lost 24lbs in 4months and have YET to start my excersise program. ;) Sure I have to tweak things(certian foods) but I have no way limited myself in anyway.


Love,
Angie

[Revvell]

Wow, just the opposite is true for me. I have found this to be the MOST tasteful diet I've ever been on. I have found this to be the most freeing diet I've ever been on.
Love,
Angie

I totally agree here. This lifestyle is soooo freeing yet, so many wish to complicate it by counting calories, carbs, proteins, etc. If they'd drop that mindset and let it all go, they could have such fun with their food!

Ive read in several places that peoples intake of fat goes a lot higher when becoming raw dues to nuts and avocados and the likes....

Higher than what? Were they checking their fat previously to coming here? Some maybe yet, what I've seen is, someone turns them on to fitday and they go ~ oh my! Look at all the fat I'm eating! Oh my! I NEED to cut out my fat! Oh my! I'll GET fat! Oh my! oh my!

Here's what I suggest ~ focus on enjoying your food. Drop all the worries and concerns. Make fruits, veggies the focus. Add seeds, nuts and avos as needed and wanted.

IF you'll read Alissa's book, she has worked with MANY folk who were overweight ~ by a LOT! She gave them waaaaay more than they could possibly eat ~ and still lost weight.

As I, and many others here have said, stop focusing on the weight. (Yeah, I know, I know, someone wants to bash me ~ ;)'s @ SL). One thing I've learned in this life ~ what one focuses on expands (no pun intended). Focus on health and that's what you'll get.

Injoy ~

Revvell

[Peter Parker]

IF you'll read Alissa's book, she has worked with MANY folk who were overweight ~ by a LOT! She gave them waaaaay more than they could possibly eat ~ and still lost weight.

I've read several books, while I havent read Alissa's lets face it. Its raw food. How many ways can it be taken? So many people become rich from making the simple into complex. Not saying she wrote her book to become rich but Im sure it hasnt hurt her bank account either.

Soaking and spouring is well useless to me. Im not going to soak something Im hungry for around 12 hours then sprout it for days. sorry. too easy to pop a can open make my whatever, in this case hummus, and move along.

meh. maybe Im just hungry and tired of juice. salads. and greens. but again, that could be the "dark side" of the force aka cooked foods calling me near but knowing Im going through detox this may be uhm natural?

so please dont take my rant serious.

[angelandarose]

Soaking and spouring is well useless to me. Im not going to soak something Im hungry for around 12 hours then sprout it for days. sorry. too easy to pop a can open make my whatever, in this case hummus, and move along...but again, that could be the "dark side" of the force aka cooked foods calling me near but knowing Im going through detox this may be uhm natural?

Soaking and sprouting is all about planning ahead. Planning ahead is good for any diet you are on. It helps keep cravings for SAD food at bay when you are well prepared on this journey.

Love,
Angie

[Peter Parker]

Wow, just the opposite is true for me. I have found this to be the MOST tasteful diet I've ever been on. I have found this to be the most freeing diet I've ever been on. I have lost 24lbs in 4months and have YET to start my excersise program. ;) Sure I have to tweak things(certian foods) but I have no way limited myself in anyway.


Love,
Angie

I want to lose more faster. not knocking your weight loss but I want to lose more quicker. and I love working out either labor wise with yard work or whatever to running on an exercise machine.

the diet may be freeing but to me it all tastes like dirt right now. I guess welcome to detox?

[angelandarose]

I want to lose more faster. not knocking your weight loss but I want to lose more quicker. and I love working out either labor wise with yard work or whatever to running on an exercise machine.

the diet may be freeing but to me it all tastes like dirt right now. I guess welcome to detox?

There are alot of people here who have lost a lot more weight in a shorter amount of time, it all depends on how much you have to loose to begin with. I don't mind working out either, I'm a body builder, but life has gotten busy for me and I've not had time to work out. I have several gardens to tend to and that has been my exercise for months now. ;)

Why does your diet taste like dirt? What are you eating. You will not last on this if you do not enjoy it. You will not last on this if you can't have fun with this.

Start looking into adding LOTS of variety to your diet. Play with your foods, find new foods to explore and taste. Make this fun and focus what you want to accomplish and it will happen before your very eyes!

Love,
Angie

[Jodi]

A slow weight loss is best. For several reasons. It's better on the body, and you're more likely to keep it off. I don't care what kind of diet you are following, there is not healthy way to lose weight fast. You did not gain it overnight, so you will not lose it overnight. Losing 1 to 2 pounds a week is best. Even just losing a half pound a week is good.

I have also found that in raw food you do need to plan ahead. And it's not as hard as it seems. I keep one day a week...usually Sunday for preparing the coming weeks food. I cut up tons of fruit, wash my veggies and even do some things with my dehydrator. Soaking almonds is not a big deal. Just put them in a bowl overnight...I soak enought to last me 4 or 5 days.

I am not 100% raw, but I have not found raw food to be boring. I guess it all depends how you approach it. In fact...I'm having fun trying new things. This weekend my new dish will be Alissa's Un-potato Salad! I'm also going to make another blueberry pie since blueberries are in season still!


Jodi

[Ireland]

Hey there Peter Parker. Buy sprouts. It's faster. I'm kinda like that too, when I want something, I want it yesterday.

However...(ain't there always a however?) Although I eat VERY little dehydrated food, I do try to plan ahead. As in, I make something BEFORE I think I want it so it'll be on hand when I do.

I find that I eat tons of fruit and when I'm lazy, I grab a Larabar or something - it's completely raw and very satisfying.

As for green stuff, have you tried green smoothies yet? I don't much care for salad, so it's an easy way to get greens in.

Asta la vista

[Sharon in Colorado]

Wasn't trying to start a heated debate. Just looking for some discernment.

How is a raw calorie different from a cooked calorie? That is what I'd like to know.

I think it's easier to overdo the fat as a raw foodist than a cooked foodist. Raw foodists (often in general) use fat to compensate as a filler. With cooked food, they overeat on grains so can avoid fat better. I know this from experience. A bagel can fill one up just as much as a cup of nuts, but the difference in fat intake is huge.

About fitday.com, I think it's a great tool. It can tell someone exactly what they've taken in. Many people have been able to fine-tune their diets through fit day. I can understand that people don't need to be a slave to their diets and flexibility is key, but there's also a point that completely wildcarding your raw diet isn't going to be healthy in the long run.

[rawmommy]

One of the things we have to keep in mind is that the fat you eat from raw living foods is not the same fat as in the SAD. I suggest Udo Erasmus' book Fats that Heal, Fats that Kill. Some unrefined, cold pressed fats will actually take off weight rather than put it on you. Our bodies need fat to survive. The whole Susan Powder "Fat makes you fat" fad is a crock and will destroy our bodies if we try to eliminate all forms of fat. We have to focus on getting rid of the SAD fats. In the raw diet it does that. So IMHO, I wouldn't worry about how much fat is in an avocado or an almond.

[Sharon in Colorado]

I agree with the statement 'some fat' which is necessary in the diet. What I'm talking about is overdoing it. 1 almond isn't the same as a cup a day.

[angelandarose]

Wasn't trying to start a heated debate. Just looking for some discernment.

How is a raw calorie different from a cooked calorie? That is what I'd like to know.

I see nothing heated here only intelligent discussion.

We can assimilate and use raw food easier and quicker than cooked food. Your body will treat and use an apple different than a candy bar. A calorie is not just a calorie. ;)

Love,
Angie

[angelandarose]

I agree with the statement 'some fat' which is necessary in the diet. What I'm talking about is overdoing it. 1 almond isn't the same as a cup a day.

BUT not everyone is the same, what one person can eat is not always what the next person can eat. An athlete can eat LOTS more food(fat) than a sedentary person. You have to judge and tweak your program per person. That is just common sense. ;)


Love,
Angie