Switching to Raw While Breastfeeding

[Ginger]

I just showed this thread to my (raw) mom.. No I can't leave this thread alone LOL! My mom said it's funny that people worry about toxins coming through the milk when they are eating fresh foods but they think they have nothing to worry about if they are eating altered food that contains toxins.

[gettingskinny]

Or could it be that going back and forth makes the reaction stronger and makes you guys feel unwell? I am willing to bet it was not lettuce that made your baby sick, but rather all that sugar etc.

I think you are right on with this statement. I think it's the going back and forth. Dh says I need to pick what I want to do and stick with it and stop making things so complicated!

[gettingskinny]

I just showed this thread to my (raw) mom.. No I can't leave this thread alone LOL! My mom said it's funny that people worry about toxins coming through the milk when they are eating fresh foods but they think they have nothing to worry about if they are eating altered food that contains toxins.

LOL that is funny! I totally agree with your mom. That's what I was trying to get across in a pp. Here I am stinkin' worried about eating some cooked brown rice, when ppl eat McDonald's and don't even worry about it especially if their baby is breastfed. They probably think it's better then formula, so who cares!

[gettingskinny]

Oh, and for the record, eating the cookies, etc. is not normal for me even when eating cooked foods. ;)

[Ginger]

Yeah ok LOL JK

[elfinbaby]

Looks like I can't leave this thread alone either, lol.

It's good food for thought though b/c there's no right or wrong answer. I look at this the same way I look at diff. raw foodists opinions about what they eat. Some are more strict than others.

The detox thing for me personally is the body is expelling toxins that it never intended to be re-ingested (is that a word?). It's also getting rid of toxins, not just from the cookie I ate yesterday, but from all that fast food that I ate for 7 yrs. in college. Seriously, it was a very large amount - I don't know if I'll ever clean that out. These are just my thoughts I would apply to myself. I don't know what op diet has been like. Mine - not good.

I also think about how the boards are full of adults coping with detox - is it over? is it always this bad? when will it stop? A baby's system is so young and still developing so I would take the toxins in the baked potato as opposed to the full quantity of toxins my body was getting rid of from my years at the Taco Bell drive thru.

It probably doesn't help either to go back and forth. That will most definitely extend this period of what you are going through. But I am guilty as well I'm 15 wks. pregnant and my first trimester was atrocious. I'm doing my best now b/c I do believe raw is the best I can give my baby. I'm crossing my fingers I can be 100% or very high at the point of bfing. That would be awesome!

I feel your pain! When your pregnant/bfing you get sooo hungry, tired, and sometimes so unmotivated. I hope everything goes well for you

April

[Ginger]

oooooh! VERY good point! But you are still detoxing all that through all the normal channels including breastmilk plus eating more toxins that go in the milk and getting less nutrients at the same time on top of all that. I think the least toxins, the better and that would be eating raw. Eating cooked does not stop detox, you still detox it constantly, you just have so many toxins coming in that your body gets backed up and can't deal with it appropriately.

[gettingskinny]

i guess i don't see how all cooked foods are toxic. if you cook something at a lower temp (yes, about 115) and it's let's say tomato sauce. how is that toxic?

are we the only breastfeeding moms on this board?

[elfinbaby]

I don't think there's many preg./bfing moms here period. Just the odds I guess.

It's like I said - it's really just a guess from this point but in my mind and people's experience of going cold turkey v. transitioning I figure that you'd get one of 2 things:
100% raw breast milk + lg amt of last years Taco Bell
vs.
90% rbm + toxins from steaming a carrot or whatever + less than the above amt.

But that's just a guess b/c I'm not a scientist I don't agree that you'd be putting fewer toxins in. I figure they'd be coming out fast and harsh like detox can be (thought not for everyone). And even though toxins are exiting through their usual routes as well, I figure the body will take advantage of a really easy route - the mammaries, since it's constantly producing lg. amts. of liquid. It's still an adult detox going in to a baby to me. With version #2 I'd feel like I was putting out fewer of the harshest toxins - the ones I can literally read off the back of a box from my years of poor eating habits.

I don't know much about toxins that occur if you cook a potato or anything else. I can't go that deep or my head will explode. But I'm also not a raw foodist who gets mad at myself b/c I eat a Lara Bar with chocolate or agave that might be questionable or nutritional yeast. That Lara Bar is better than me grabbing a Snickers.


Gettingskinny, nobody has a 100% full proof answer. I like that we're talking about raw and bfing period. Moms trying to give their baby the best. In all of the replies, one answer never changes and that's raw is best - whether you transition or go cold turkey.

April

[gettingskinny]

i just like talking about it.

i think for me i'm going to do high raw and eat good nutritious food and know my body and breast milk are healthy!;)

[momma-rawma]

I'm doing a slow transition.

Oddly though--as soon as I started, the boy got diarrhea. Maybe he had some toxins to release.
I have a friend who went raw while breastfeeding as well. She doesn't raise her kids fully raw--or vegetarian for that manner--but she did a transition to 100%...was for a bit and stepped back to mostly as she still has organic meats for her dinner.

I will admit that I have for all 3 kids drank alcohol while breastfeeding....and going raw has to put less into the milk than a beer IMHO.

I don't get all the detox worry anyway---I eat tons of fruit...I've now just included a veg.

And I'm eating way less sugar. Not sure why that would be a bad thing.

The important thing is to make sure you are eating enough--b/c the bf/pregnant momma would have to eat a bit more than someone who is not since you are sharing the food. :)


The only reason I am doing a slow transition--is for me..not for him. :)

[gettingskinny]

Yay another mama! Thanks for posting.

Ok, I'm just jumping in!

I know this is what is best for me and the baby will be ok. Why keep putting it off?

[momma-rawma]

Yeah for you! And your kids may appreciate the more attentive momma.

I've been doing green juices for almost a week now. And for the first time in 1 year, I finally feel like...hmmm...maybe it is NOW finally time to wean off of the anti-depressants. I am a PPD momma--and this last pregnancy, was knocked to my nose with it while still pregnant (though that wouldn't be POST-partum, now would it? ).

I've tried weaning a couple of times and boy was it not pretty. But now I feel like I did when I was ready to wean (and successfully was able to) the last time. (which includes--constantly forgetting to take the meds and not noticing any ill effects....took me 3 days to remember to pick up my refill today at Walgreens).

[herbalgirl]

Another nursing mama here! I am exclusively bfing my daughter, who is almost 5 months old. I am a part of the JanuRAWry 30 day challenge. I say, jump right in! ;)

[AvyB]

are we the only breastfeeding moms on this board?

I'm here but mostly lurking. I am nursing my 21 month old DD and am 27 weeks preg...so soon to be nursing two!