Supplement Question

[firefaery]

Magnesium is water soluble, so it has a bowel tolerance. The idea is to find that in yourself and back down just a bit. Once you find that place there will be no bowel issues.

It's very important in people with depression to get adequate magnesium intake. IT is responsible for the relaxation of smooth muscles, and will also be helpful for PMS symptoms.

There are many forms and it's important to use a bioavailable one. Generally you want a liquid or a powder. My vote is NaturalCalm. It's vegan, highly absorbable and quite tasty.

Fish oil/Cod liver oil is high in omega 3's (which are very important in the treatment of depression) but what it also has is vitamin A and vitamin D. Deficinecies in both can lead to food allergies as well as depression. In fact celiac patients are often tested for IgA deficiences which can be corrected by supplementation of the CORRECT form of vitamin A (as in NOT man made!) That's why docs go for fish oil over hemp or walnut. However, if you are opposed to it make sure you are taking a vegan form of A *and* D (the sun may not provide enough at this point given the damage to our environment.)

You can absolutely correct this with vegan sources if you choose. Follow your heart and do what it right for you. You need to be safe above all else.

[currious]

firefaery- I just googled natural calm and it sounds very intresting, I take Magtab SR per my doc due to the suspended release and abosortion. How do you like natural calm? which one do you use? thank you!

dream- the best thing you can do is what is best for your body and well being!

[firefaery]

I like it quite a bit. IT is very effective, and I have used all of them. Taste-wise I prefer the lemon.

It's a great company-very high quality.

[dreamrawalwz]

Yup, it's the Natural Calm that bought! The plain flavor.

[tepiglet]

I second what someone else said regarding the book "Depression Free for Life".
Lots of great, comprehensive information,including proper dosages of amino acids/supplements.
Great nutritional info as well.
Also,it's vitally important to know if your depression is related to a deficiency in serotonin,dopamine or noradrenaline etc.-or a combination of the three.
Blood sugar levels can affect moods dramatically.
There are a lot of other mitigating factors as well.

Keep in mind that it takes a few weeks for 5-HTP to kick in.
If your depression is severe then you may find that taking L-Tryptophan is a better choice,as it is a lot stronger than 5-HTP.


Personally,I found that St.John's Wort is very weak in helping with depression.
It usually is known to help in mild cases.

Another supplement which is mentioned in "Depression Free for Life",which has had great rates of success is SAMe.
Have you heard of it?
It has very few,if any known side affects,and unlike prescription anti-depressants,SAMe is actually good for your liver.

All of the aforementioned supplements are helpful if your depression is serotonin related.

L-Tyrosine is helpful for dopamine related depression.

However,don't just take my word for it,please consult with a naturopath,alternative minded doctor or other natural health related expert.
Most amino acid supplements are considered relatively safe,but you never know what kind of interactions you might have when combining pills-even non-prescription natural stuff.

[dreamrawalwz]

I second what someone else said regarding the book "Depression Free for Life".
Lots of great, comprehensive information,including proper dosages of amino acids/supplements.
Great nutritional info as well.
Also,it's vitally important to know if your depression is related to a deficiency in serotonin,dopamine or noradrenaline etc.-or a combination of the three.
Blood sugar levels can affect moods dramatically.
There are a lot of other mitigating factors as well.

Keep in mind that it takes a few weeks for 5-HTP to kick in.
If your depression is severe then you may find that taking L-Tryptophan is a better choice,as it is a lot stronger than 5-HTP.


Personally,I found that St.John's Wort is very weak in helping with depression.
It usually is known to help in mild cases.

Another supplement which is mentioned in "Depression Free for Life",which has had great rates of success is SAMe.
Have you heard of it?
It has very few,if any known side affects,and unlike prescription anti-depressants,SAMe is actually good for your liver.

All of the aforementioned supplements are helpful if your depression is serotonin related.

L-Tyrosine is helpful for dopamine related depression.

However,don't just take my word for it,please consult with a naturopath,alternative minded doctor or other natural health related expert.
Most amino acid supplements are considered relatively safe,but you never know what kind of interactions you might have when combining pills-even non-prescription natural stuff.

Thanks. I don't now of a natropath here. Plus they're pretty expensive aren't they? At least the ones near my house are. So basicaly I shouldn't combine the 5-HTP, St. John's, and L-Tyrosine? Should I just do SAMe and L-Tyrosine to hit both angles, but not overdo it for now?

[Sleek98]

The way I understand it is that you can first start on the 5-HTP and/or GABA until they start working, then you can add in amino acids like tyrosine, etc.

[Raw Angel Mom]

I don't know if i would repeat myself with others but deficiency in Vitamin D will do this. And on Fall time there is less light outside. So got outside as much as you can and take vitamine D.

Chocolate is a natural anti-depressant. This is why we crave for chocolate on fall. You can buy raw chocolate.

Please get check out with your doctor to see if you are low in anything that can create imbalance.

Our emotions are major key. Sometime when we try to be over positive, it will suppress our emotions, this is important to give them a voice and just release them. If you are ok with Source or God, you can release them to the Divine, if not, you can just connect with the nature and offer them to mother earth for transmutation.

Play uplifting music and do your best to do something joyful. Maybe just imagining that you are swiming with the dolphins is enough.

Raw food give life to berried emotions so when we are dealing with D deficiency on top of this, this isn't easy.

Here is a nice meditation that i love to do and it really clear out a lot of garbages. Before, i want to say that you are a beautiful woman inside out. You are always there to help out others and you have a big heart.

Here it goes.

Intent to breathin pure love energys and to feel it within your heart ( just intent it is happening). Take deep breath in and deep breath out. Keep doing this, several time as you do this, your inner light is expanding and expanding, until it covers your entire aura. Now instruct your inner light to calibrate, your thoughts, your believes, your perceptions and your mind until it is perfectly calibrated with your inner light or highrself. Everything else is getting transmuted into perfect health, balance and love. Now this might sound silly but connect to your body and address our body as you would talk to someone you really love. And say, i love you, just mean it even though your mind may not agree, keep saying i love you, as you saying this, each cell of your body, your dna is calibrating to perfect health. Feel this love for this beautiful body that is self repairing and working so hard for you. Breath in more love energy and send gratitude to mother earth, the animals, the trees, your home and send blessings to anyone who has a connection with you. Feel love and feel gratitude, know that you aren't alone and you are so loved and worthy to be love. Come back slowly.

Blessings to you

[firefaery]

Thanks. I don't now of a natropath here. Plus they're pretty expensive aren't they? At least the ones near my house are. So basicaly I shouldn't combine the 5-HTP, St. John's, and L-Tyrosine? Should I just do SAMe and L-Tyrosine to hit both angles, but not overdo it for now?

You should evaluate to see what you are deficient in first. www.themoodcure.com has a free test I believe. You really shouldn't throw supplements at it willy nilly. They aren't "drugs" but they shouldn't be taken lightly. Their effects are real. An overabundance of seratonin will cause as big a problem as a deficiency. IF you are using herbs to tell your body to make more when it already has too much you are exacerbating the problem.

sam-E

[firefaery]

oops, that went through too soon. Sam-E, 5-HTP, Hypericum, Holy Basil, GABA, and L-Tyrosine all have different actions on the body. Let's see what you need.

You can also have your amino acid levels tested independently of a practitioner. IF you want to follow that route let me know...it's pretty inexpensive.

[tepiglet]

I agree with firefaery,you shouldn't just throw various supplements together,willy-nilly.
I wasn't trying to tell you what to take,or what not to take as the case may be-or what to combine.
I was just explaining the various uses for SAMe,5-HTP,L-Tyrosine,etc...
Again,I concur with firefaery,you need to be tested for deficiencies,first and foremost.

[dreamrawalwz]

I don't know if i would repeat myself with others but deficiency in Vitamin D will do this. And on Fall time there is less light outside. So got outside as much as you can and take vitamine D.

Chocolate is a natural anti-depressant. This is why we crave for chocolate on fall. You can buy raw chocolate.

Please get check out with your doctor to see if you are low in anything that can create imbalance.

Well, last year I was dxed as defficient in vitamin D and my blood test just showed that I'm low in B-12; both of which can cause depression.

[firefaery]

are you supplementing?

[Raw Angel Mom]

Nano B-Complex is highly recommended by dr. Gabriel Cousens. He has been on Raw vegan diet for more then 20 years.

I am currently taking this as supplement, but i don't know yet if this work but i know that i felt a positive difference right of way, after this, you kind of get accustom to it.

Chocolate is truly a nice natural anti -depressant. It is consider as a super food and filled with nice mineral, but it has to be raw chocolate.

Please get some blood test done once in a while to see if this is improving.

Nova Scotia sea dulse is reach in B12 but it doesn't mean that you will absorb it, this is why this Nano B-Complex is highly recommended by dr. Cousens.

Best wishes!

p.s Sometime as we are on raw food, it brings up our emotions which are also caused by heavy metal. I am currently taking ZEOLITE (liquid) which according again to Dr. Cousens will help to cleanse that within two weeks. I resonate very much with him but again i cannot confirm if this is working, because i have been on it only for a few days.