Osteoporosis

[alicemagooey]

Thank you, Luckitri

much appreciated.!

alice

[SharonC]

Hi Alice, Just wanted to let you know that I am going to answer soon. Way behind on writing my articles for the neighborhood newsletter because I have been gardening so much since the weather is cooler right now!

[Maria]

One thing that Victoria Boutenko stresses in her books on raw is that we don't take up the nutrients unless the cellulose in the veg is broken down to very fine particles. That's why it's so important to chew the food, and then chew some more. That's why she's such an advocate for the green smoothie. The nutrients are more easily digested by the system, and formed into bone (in this case.) I personally believe that getting the nutrition from food instead of supplements is better, but that's just me.

I do add green powder, flax seed meal, veg. glucosamine, and magnesium to my green smoothies. Magnesium is good for sleeping disorders and leg cramps.

Maria

[SharonC]

Do not like a lot of the ingredients that are added to so many progesterone creams, including soy. This one is sold at the compounding pharmacy where my friend works - http://www.restoredbalanceonline.com/pmscreme.htm The website says that it is independently tested. The one that Luckitri recommended looks good too - found it on the same website as the transdermal magnesium oil that I use - https://securewsch01.websitecomplete...t.asp?dept=164

The very purest would probably be personally compounded but would need a prescription.

I agree that the raw food diet provides way more nutrients, and we do not need to supplement nearly as much. The best way to get all the nutrients we need is a varied raw food diet - consuming lots of blended foods (GREEN SMOOTHIES), sprouts, wheatgrass, etc., and juicing as needed (juicing especially helpful if working to reverse disease).

My thoughts about the many factors to consider regarding supplementing the diet...

The nutrients in our food supply depend on the nutrients in the soil - hard to know exactly what is in our food. The nutrient content has been declining a lot since the discovery of synthetic fertilizers and abandonment of the natural way of growing food. If it is grown organically, odds are it has more nutrients - depends on how the farmer is replenishing the soil, the use of cover crops that help to increase the nutrient content, etc.

Also depends on how nutrient rich the diet and what the body is able to absorb - absorption is extremely important - does not matter what we eat if we are not absorbing the nutrients. Many people today (due to many factors) are not able to absorb nutrients properly and/or do not chew their food thoroughly - the older the person, the worse this usually is (proper absorption, not the chewing!) Blending will help with this because the nutrients will be more absorbable - juicing even more and is highly recommended for people who are working to heal their bodies, especially quickly.

The unbelievable amount of toxins we are exposed to from every direction are another factor - our bodies need more nutrients just to function in today's toxic world. More nutrients are needed for the body to perform it's daily tasks and also to work extra hard to eliminate toxins.

Stress (physical and emotional) are a factor in the amount of nutrients our body needs to repair and heal.

Another factor is how long we have abused our bodies with an unhealthy lifestyle, and the present condition of our body. More nutrients are needed if attempting to heal the body of a disease process - even more if need/want to heal quickly.

There are some nutrients (such as vitamin D and magnesium) that in general seem to be low in many people. There is a test for vitamin D deficiency, but no reliable test for magnesium. Besides my whole food supplements (that I consider as making up for any deficiencies in my food), I also use a transdermal magnesium from ocean water on my skin - https://securewsch01.websitecomplete...t.asp?dept=170. Also, add sea minerals to my green smoothies and water.

This is a great article about whole food supplements...
http://www.newstarget.com/007347.html

[luckitri]

Just talked to Glen Parnham at International Health and he verified so much of what I am learning here as well as everywhere else. This guy has so much energy to talk to people all over the world every day. Just call the 800# and he will get back to you. I got their website:

www.internationalhealth.net

He explained that we are all magnesium deficient and those of us with osteoporosis need extra to rebuild our bones. He said if we ingested all that we need we would spend our lives in the bathroom. They have some new products to aid with magnesium absorption. He is starting me out with bath crystals and a gel. They also have a magnesium oil.

[luckitri]

Sharon, it is the same site! Yours and mine are the same people. I just got the magnesium bath stuff and the magnesium gel cause they told me I needed it for the bones. Also the clinical researcher Glen Parnham is familiar with the lovely people I am meeting through the www.watercure2.com site.

However I am hoping that everyone comes back soon because I got my NewsTarget today about the Healing Foods, herbs etc - a huge list they have been compiling. For osteoporosis, on the top of the good healing foods list is soy, that is right SOY! SOY! SOY! I can't keep up! I thought it was bad. I thought soy interferes with calcium absorption.

http://healingfoodreference.com/osteoporosis.html


Guess I am going to have to get updated on soy now.

[luckitri]

SharonC, Thanks for the start the healing link! If someone wished to do their own whole food supplementation at home I am wondering how we would know for example - how many mg of vitamin C we were getting from our juicer. Then again I read your link to NewsTarget 2005 where he talks about condensed nutrition. I just want to figure out the po folk way to do it!

[EZ rider]

I just want to figure out the po folk way to do it!

Fortunately the best way to feed the body with the nutrients it needs is also the po folk way. Wouldn't you just know it, God always wants the best for everyone and he's provided it to us so that we don't have to buy expensive supplements etc. The most expensive supplements don't work nearly as well as the natural foods he has provided. If you want magnesium just eat green leafy vegetables. Calcium same. Just look to the garden foods for the best nutrients.

[luckitri]

Thanks EZ, I sure hope you are right because I need to reverse this in a big way - I am already at the worst stage and my older sister broke her hip so am hoping the greens do it.

[EZ rider]

My next suggestion is for someone wanting to take an aggressive approach to using God's foods to heal. Wheat grass is considered a "super food" of greens and is just loaded with nutrients. If you grow wheat grass at home, buying the seeds in bulk, it is truly a po man's food. I suggest if you grow it that you harvest the blades on the first growth only and get them when they are only 3 to 7 inches long. The longer they grow the less sweet and potent they become. Once they have sprouted give them plenty of sunlight to green them up. If you can grow them outside you can use the square foot gardening system and just plant and harvest a square foot everyday. If your lucky you might be able to get a greens juicer at a garage sale or somewhere else used for a reasonable price. Good Luck.

[styersky]

Without buying more books . . . can someone refer me to a website for instructions and info on growing wheatgrass, please.

[luckitri]

Yes I am a bit overwhelmed by it also. Family adopted a cat that I know will be getting in it and need to figure out how to keep him out.

I am not finding this style of eating easy yet and since I am trying to recuperate my health there are extra things I need to do each day - like remember to eat my aloe vera, etc. I would need a juicer that does wheatgrass as well and I have not worked in 7 months so I can pray. (Not well enough to go around to garage sales.) (I bought some a while back and it did not work in my juicers so I tried to just eat it and choked. ha ha) My son thinks I am truly crazy.

[EZ rider]

Now I feel bad because my post has made you want something that is out of reach and I'm sorry. I hope a solution happens.

[styersky]

My next suggestion is for someone wanting to take an aggressive approach to using God's foods to heal. Wheat grass is considered a "super food" of greens and is just loaded with nutrients. If you grow wheat grass at home, buying the seeds in bulk, it is truly a po man's food. I suggest if you grow it that you harvest the blades on the first growth only and get them when they are only 3 to 7 inches long. The longer they grow the less sweet and potent they become. Once they have sprouted give them plenty of sunlight to green them up. If you can grow them outside you can use the square foot gardening system and just plant and harvest a square foot everyday. If your lucky you might be able to get a greens juicer at a garage sale or somewhere else used for a reasonable price. Good Luck.

Not having experience or knowledge of wheat grass . . . in the absence of a juicer, would the wheatgrass be a good ingredient in green smoothies?

[luckitri]

I think someone wrote that it got wrapped around the blades and almost killed her blender.

I really do want to do the wheatgrass and I do like it when it is sweet. I had seen a manual juicer at a HFS and planned on getting it when able but the store closed down.

I am a little concerned when purchasing metal products made in other countries because I am aware that some often make products out of radioactive metal and we do not have enough inspectors to catch it.

EZ, did not mean to make you feel bad. I know wheat grass is on my to do list. But you know what? I have 2 alternative health people helping me now and one is coaching me long distance and sending me books and product and is very positive for my recovery. The other one is local at www.internationalhealth.net and I was speaking with Glen Parnham and he started listing everything of his products that I need - I had just called for the one progesterone for my osteoporosis - and he gave me the others along with a DVD that is quite radical and addresses many of the topics that people have talked about here over the time that I have been here. I have been wanting to share the DVD with people here but don't know how. He says alot of the information is on his website. They have wonderful products that are acceptable to raw foodists.

I can't wait to show it to my husband because he says very clearly that the antibiotics fed to the cattle is what upsets your own intestinal flora when you eat it. He also explains the estrogen dominance coming from diet that give men prostrate as well as cause women problems.