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    Urine ph . . . The only book I have now, but have another on order, says the first test in the a.m. should be acid and mine is not. I am 7 to 7.5 all day. Haven't seen any other info regarding the necessity of acid early a.m. I am anxious to read more on that. When I started testing the results flunctuated but not now. I think that's a good thing.

    I struck out on the nutrition oriented doctors. The HFS gave me wrong info on that, so I am on my own.

    About 25 years ago I owned a HFS. I had spent many years prior to that really into supplements, etc. While I owned the HFS I truly lost faith . . . there is so much snake oil in that industry. After that I pretty much threw nutrition out the window, and specifically supplements. Now this, being RAW, etc., is so totally new and exciting so I am truly feeling my way along. And I so much appreciate all of the support and information received from all of you.

    I realize that the supplements not being exposed to high heat, etc., are totally different than just any bottle of pills. After reading about Alissa's I felt ok to give it a try. I will continue reading and studying and try to get a definite regimen going as far as supplements are concerned.

    I will have miniscus repair on right knee next Wednesday. So my walking has to be put on hold for now. I have a trampoline ordered so as soon I am able to start exercising will start rebounding. I love to walk, but I seem to get too energetic, try to do too much and that is how I hurt my knee. Just trying too hard to get a good workout. I have a tendency to overdo things!

    I think I have answered all of your comments. Just can't tell you guys how much I appreciate your support. That's what this Forum can do for all of us . . . support, support, support!

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    Sharon C, your posts have contained a WEALTH of information..

    still chewing on the last long one by you..

    THANK YOU for sharing your understanding.

    by the way, what is negative polarized water???

    alice

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    If you are enjoying the Over 50 Forum you might want to thank Alissa for doing this for us. She was so happy to work with us and I really appreciate it as I think you are. This is the email address if you want to thank her:
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  4. #34

    Default Urine PH should be acid am and alkaline pm

    I spoke with my nutritionist yesterday, as I have been dealing with alot of stuff, and feel it's really important to know. The urine was right on, but she went on to explain, the PH should all be different, for the saliva, stomach, intestinal tract, blood, etc. Do any of the books any of you mentioned explain it that way? If my saliva and urine are alkaline, why do I have this terrible burning acid issue going on? I have tried every alkaline forming food I have, acidophilous, even Daves Kombucha tea. I am suspicious of the fruit in my green smoothie. The only things I didn't try was cabbage juice, or yogurt. Tomorrow....

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    A lot to try and figure out, all of this, for sure, Lavendula.

    i just received my ph test strips and urine tested first thing this morning.

    the little brochure which came with it said that normal 'first thing in the morning' urine should test between 6.75 and 7.25..

    mine was 7.25.

    i guess that is ok..so i am glad..

    i know the guy who made the strips available ( and sells lots of products along these lines )..says that there are many factors which influence ph..
    and also that urine ph is different from saliva ph..
    i have not tested my saliva ph yet.

    i think you may be correct in that different areas of the body have different ph values of the fluids within them,like the stomach, etc.. but i think these two..the urine and the saliva , are the only two which we lay people can readily test.

    oh yes, he says the other factors to getting an accurate reading may be
    "certain chemicals in your saliva like salts, proteins, colloids, alkalouds and alkahol may slightly effect the reagent of the slips
    ( he goes on to tell us why his strips are the most accurate..)

    sigh.. do you ever feel like little lambs being led in different directions?

    muddle on, my friends.

    keep drinking the greens..lots of greens..i am coming to understand..
    perhaps more than fruit.. i am learning..

    cheerio
    alice

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    Quote Originally Posted by alicemagooey View Post
    Sharon C, your posts have contained a WEALTH of information..

    still chewing on the last long one by you..

    THANK YOU for sharing your understanding.

    by the way, what is negative polarized water???

    alice

    Alice, Thank you for sharing too - enjoy your posts!

    I just love to research and learn how the body works - it is fascinating to me. My husband says I
    spend too much time researching (I do)! But, he benefits, so he does not complain about it too much!!

    I have not gotten into the ph testing - did it a few times. I do not like tests! I just do everything I know to do to achieve true health, incorporating and tweaking along the way - eat healthy of course, avoid all chemicals (in food, cleaning products, personal care products, gardening products, etc.), and regularly cleanse/detox my body (my husband even built me an infrared sauna for detoxing)! I enjoy doing all this, so it is easy for me. It really did help me to understand how the body works to be so enthusiastic about healthy living - learning about gardening and nature helped as well. It is so interesting that just like the body, if the soil is not healthy (full of real nutrients), then the plant is not healthy, and the plant is more likely to attract pests and diseases - there is a perfect plan in place, God/nature's laws - it is man not following God/nature's laws that causes all the problems!!

    This is a great video tape of an overview of the miraculous self healing body. It is especially helpful for people who do not understand how food helps the body to heal and who need a doctor to tell them! So many people just do not get it, especially the medical community - https://commerce.hacres.com/productCat.aspx?cat=18'
    "Miraculous Self-Healing Body - DVD
    You can learn about the dangers of the Standard American Diet (SAD) and hear for yourself the evidence that improper diet is the leading cause of almost every physical ailment. Five leading health experts, including Dr. Neal Barnard, Dr. Joel Fuhrman, Dr. John McDougall, Dr. Russell Blaylock, and Rev. George Malkmus, discuss all this and reveal the secrets to a healthy, vital, disease-free body. A very powerful video! Available in VHS, DVD and PAL DVD formats. DVD Video"

    This explains the negative polarized water - http://www.pjaninc.com/documents/MagnetizedWater.doc

  7. #37

    Default It's like a 2000 piece jigsaw puzzle

    I don't think I would have ever thought about my Ph the way I do now, because I didn't have a clue. When you are trying to heal yourself, you are your own best DR. and they are just practicing, so that's what I've always done. Education is knowledge, but that can be bad too, as sometimes we learn just enough to be dangerous. I had mostly greens in my GS, couldn't even taste the nectarine. I'll let you all know what happens, with the acid thing, at least it didn't keep me awake or wake me up last night.

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    Sharon:
    my husband even built me an infrared sauna for detoxing)!
    you are one lucky lady, for sure.

    It is good of you to share what you know..

    as Lavendula said:
    it is like a 1000 piece puzzle.. this whole thing..about how the body works and all..

    i agree that what Sharon said about our following the Laws of Nature, and how that will bring about Balance and things the way they were created to be.
    There are a couple problems with that, although it will always work.
    ( following the Laws of Nature ) for our benefit..

    the problems seem to be that we have gotten SO FAR AWAY from simplicity.. We have not only made things overly complicated, it seems, but we have made our conditions such that it is difficult to reverse the messes we have made.

    The second thing, which is not really a problem, but a process, is that it takes TIME and sensitivity and dedication to figure out this 1000 piece puzzle..because life goes on and change of all types just happen..

    i will cut from my silly drivel..sorry folks.

    nice that we can help each other persevere.
    i think that is the most important thing.

    alice

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    Default Not sure yet

    I realized I was eating 1/4 of a jicama every, all starch, high in FOS. Cutting back has helped, but not totally. I still think the fruit in my GS is part of it. I just can't stay on top of the acid feeling. Whether it's a 100% raw day or not or not, makes no diff.

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    Lavendula, you may want to look at "Food Combining". You can google for food combining. It seems that greens and fruit are not a recommended combination. And they certainly do not work well for me. I need to pretty much eat fruit alone to avoid bloating, etc., etc.

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    Wow Thanks SharonC!

    I had also read on here a while back about recharging the water by putting it in a glass jar in the moonlight.

    I do know that my water frustrates me as it somehow tastes dead and is not as refreshing as I think it should be.

    Will have to collect all this water info and figure out what to do.

    Where could I get a magnet big enough to charge a huge water bottle for family and would cost be ridiculously out of reach? When I put water bottle on dispenser would magnetization be lost?

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    Lavendula, I also still have the acid heartburn but certainly not as bad as SAD. I am frustrated with the large amount of fruit that always ends up in my green smoothies but for some reason not only do they taste better but they keep longer with the fruit.

    But in the evening I often wonder why I still have the acid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by luckitri View Post
    Wow Thanks SharonC!

    I had also read on here a while back about recharging the water by putting it in a glass jar in the moonlight.

    I do know that my water frustrates me as it somehow tastes dead and is not as refreshing as I think it should be.

    Will have to collect all this water info and figure out what to do.

    Where could I get a magnet big enough to charge a huge water bottle for family and would cost be ridiculously out of reach? When I put water bottle on dispenser would magnetization be lost?
    You are so welcome Luckitri! Sorry, but I have not gotten that far either! Just been reading about it.

    Right now, I am distilling my water and adding watermax from Hallelujah Acres - https://commerce.hacres.com/product.aspx?id=332 Their research - http://www.hacres.com/diet/research/waterRevision.pdf

    Adding another step is on my list of things to do if I decide that it will be more beneficial. I will let you know when I do and how I do it!!

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    When making GREEN SMOOTHIES, I do try to follow proper food combining - acid fruits with sub-acid fruits & sweet fruits by themselves or with a little sub-acid fruit.

    For instance, the acid fruits such as oranges, strawberries, pineapple, kiwi combine really well together and make a great tasting smoothie. Blueberries are sub-acid I believe - they combine well with acid fruits.

    When I use bananas (sweet fruit), I use either by themselves or with mangos and/or grapes and sometimes blueberries.

    I have read that apples are easily digested with other foods.

    For my GREENS - kale, spinach, romaine, mixed greens, dandelion, tops of carrots/beets, celery, purslane

    And, as Alice pointed out, there is that food combining rule - "eat melons alone or leave them alone". I have never tested this! I just eat melons first thing in the morning and then have a green smoothie later.

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    Sharon C., you are so informative. Thank you.

    I have learned from experience to leave fruits out of green smoothies, but have not found a taste that is great. I add tomato to greens and am not exactly pleased with effect or taste. What do you add to the greens for taste, or maybe you like the greens taste?

    And thank you so much for the b-12 info.

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