Vaccines

[Leeeeeeena]

Hello!

In Australia, there is a new 'free cervical cancer vaccination' that is being offered to all females aged 10 to 26. I am yet to get mine however, I am really having doubts about it? It just sounds really dodgy to me, one big hoax.
I want to know what kind of information people have come across about any of this - the good (if there is good) and the bad. It doesn't have to be about the cervical cancer vaccination, just any vaccinations in general.

Hope to hear from you,

Lena

[lafsalot]

http://rawfoodtalk.com/showthread.ph...light=vaccines Here is a one thread, "vaccines, good or bad" that I was able to find by using the search engine. There are a lot more. Hope this helps ~ Cathy

[tinystrawberry]

i personally would not do it..but here's an article i found about it
http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cg...NG2LFGJFT1.DTL

[Revvell]

You may wish to read The China Study and/or get a copy of the film "Eating". Drugs have yet to cure anything. Just when they think it's gone, it comes back in another form ~ with a vengeance.

Revvellicious

[Leeeeeeena]

Excellent. Thank you very much!

[Portia2012]

My question is this, does the raw foodist believe that we should not get vaccines period? If so, how do we stop diseases from reaching school age children?

I realize this is a old thread, but after reading some of the articles, I am curious as to the different thoughts.


~Portia~

[Liserpiece]

I'm glad this thread got bumped, I'm curious too. I have preschoolers, whom I vaccinate. My 13 year old however, will not be getting the cervical cancer vaccine. I reason that there hasn't been enough time to see its effects. I'm obviously a fence rider, but the thought of not vaccinating is scary to me.

[Revvell]

My question is this, does the raw foodist believe that we should not get vaccines period? If so, how do we stop diseases from reaching school age children?

It's not a belief.... it is what it is. As I said in a previous post, drugs do not kill, cure or heal... they poison. Disease is stopped by a strong immune system. It's that simple.

[Raene]

I realize everyone has their own beliefs and views on vaccines, so if you are firm in where you stand, please know that I'm not saying what you should or shouldn't do.
But for me, I know two friends whose children died from vaccines and my daughter got very very sick and I had to stop vaccinating.
Vaccines are made from animal feces, animal brains/other parts, and foreign blood. They are completely unnatural and haven't been tested long enough to know what's really going on with them. Right when they come out with a study saying that they don't cause autism, seizures, etc, they end up having to revoke it.
People don't know this because doctors don't inform patients, but right on the vaccine label it says that children who have weakened immune systems or asthma should NOT be vaccinated. Yet people often think the opposite is true.
Twenty years ago they were giving children somewhere near 1/3 as many vaccines as they now do routinely. And children are not getting any healthier or avoiding diseases. There is no way I would personally put any foreign liquids/chemicals into me or my family ever again now that I have more info.
There are great books about it and there's a great (free) video...I think Dr Tenpenny (?) puts it out but there should be a link somewhere else on the board. I'd highly recommend checking it out.

[juliebove]

I realize everyone has their own beliefs and views on vaccines, so if you are firm in where you stand, please know that I'm not saying what you should or shouldn't do.
But for me, I know two friends whose children died from vaccines and my daughter got very very sick and I had to stop vaccinating.
Vaccines are made from animal feces, animal brains/other parts, and foreign blood. They are completely unnatural and haven't been tested long enough to know what's really going on with them. Right when they come out with a study saying that they don't cause autism, seizures, etc, they end up having to revoke it.
People don't know this because doctors don't inform patients, but right on the vaccine label it says that children who have weakened immune systems or asthma should NOT be vaccinated. Yet people often think the opposite is true.
Twenty years ago they were giving children somewhere near 1/3 as many vaccines as they now do routinely. And children are not getting any healthier or avoiding diseases. There is no way I would personally put any foreign liquids/chemicals into me or my family ever again now that I have more info.
There are great books about it and there's a great (free) video...I think Dr Tenpenny (?) puts it out but there should be a link somewhere else on the board. I'd highly recommend checking it out.

Vaccines are made from animal feces? Can you prove this? Provide a cite?

[Raene]

It's in this video that I mentioned...it's a very well-researched presentation that's available online here: http://articles.mercola.com/sites/ar...en-t-safe.aspx

[Portia2012]

So basically are we saying doctors are lieing to us, and that we should not go to doctor's period, and do like that woman who did not take her 11 year old to the doctor to be treated when she was dieing from diabetes?


Don't get me wrong here, I do believe in raw foods to, but I do have to admit that solely relying on raw does not make sense to me.


Yes, I know how it has helped people and I am not denying that, but seriously folks I am not sending my child to a school where the parents have done nothing to prevent communible diseases from being spread.


I am not saying all vaccines are good either. I had to stop my older son from getting the whooping cough vaccine, because he had a severe reaction to the shot.


YMMV.


~Portia~

[Portia2012]

I realize everyone has their own beliefs and views on vaccines, so if you are firm in where you stand, please know that I'm not saying what you should or shouldn't do.
But for me, I know two friends whose children died from vaccines and my daughter got very very sick and I had to stop vaccinating.
Vaccines are made from animal feces, animal brains/other parts, and foreign blood. They are completely unnatural and haven't been tested long enough to know what's really going on with them. Right when they come out with a study saying that they don't cause autism, seizures, etc, they end up having to revoke it.
People don't know this because doctors don't inform patients, but right on the vaccine label it says that children who have weakened immune systems or asthma should NOT be vaccinated. Yet people often think the opposite is true.
Twenty years ago they were giving children somewhere near 1/3 as many vaccines as they now do routinely. And children are not getting any healthier or avoiding diseases. There is no way I would personally put any foreign liquids/chemicals into me or my family ever again now that I have more info.
There are great books about it and there's a great (free) video...I think Dr Tenpenny (?) puts it out but there should be a link somewhere else on the board. I'd highly recommend checking it out.

If your child was dieing, and the only thing that would save them is a vaccine, would you tell the doctor no?


~Portia~

[Davylp25]

Well I think in the case above^^ Thats a last resort after years of an already compromised immune system.

But I have read sooo many negative things about vaccines... Even that in the future it will be a law that your children are vaccinated to attend school. It's quite scary the things I read.

I honestly dont think, the Dr's are Evil, and are purposefully doing this to hurt people, I just feel they have no real clue... Good intent doesn't always mean good outcome.

It's up to you to decide.

[Portia2012]

I agree with you, and I am sorry if any of my words come out wrong. Part of it is years of old beliefs drilled in to my head. However, I also believe that common sense comes in to play here, and a person can go to far the other way. I totally believe in the power of raw, and yet I am also not going to sit here, and say raw will take care of me, so I am not going to a doctor period, or rely on modern medicine. Take snake bites for example, when you get anti-venom you are basically getting another snake's venom to counteract the other. If it comes down to dying from a snake bite or taking anti-venom, you can best believe I am going to do something to prevent my death, even if that means putting a foreign substance in my body.


Like I said, this is just my belief, and I love all of you, not trying to start a war on here, and cause trouble.


~Portia~