natural birth control?

[Firicia]

I am kinda currious about something someone asked me about the morning after pill. If someone was raw, is there a way to take something like that that's natural?

And I know this is a hot topic but what about abortions (I don't mean to offend anyone honestly, I am just wondering what people did before all this medical junk was around), or a natural miscarage.

I really don't mean to offend anyone here, I can't stress that enough, I am just wondering how women handled these things before doctors started giving us drugs. And I am currious as I think women have a right to know everything, not just one side from doctors.

So anyways, ya, what did us smart women do before doctors came into the picture? Thanks

[spicyfull]

Women died using Coat Hanger as a method of performing abortions. There were plenty of Babies to be Adopted.

Nothing really Changes when it comes to sexual Human Beings...only the method of handlilng their permissquirity.

I don't find your question offensive........Its a question, Its Life...and Life is about choices. Choices are fine as long as someone innocent does not have to pay.

[Conscious Midwife]

Abstinence is the most natural and disease free method of contraception I know about.

Then there is natural family planning. rhythym method, calendar, temp. menses dates etc...

Coitus Interuptus

Notice there is a difference between practices that prevent conception and practices that prevent birth after conception

lactating sometimes delays ovulation

[Judy]

If one was really thinking about an abortion, it would probably be better to have it done at a good doctor's... (I'm not pro or anti abortion by the way, I think people should make their own choices).
Because one natural way and really raw (raw not in a good sense, actually you do not want to hear this), would be letting someone hit or kick you in the stomach very hard. Young prostitute girls in South America do it like this, since they can afford anything like an abortion if they do get pregnant. It isn't pain free and it certainly isn't healthy, but the beating causes the girl to miscarry and have a spontaneous abortion. Pregnant women in car accidents or who get beaten up severely can get this as well. And I think in the early days, they might have done something like this as well, or something like scraping the embryo out with something sharp (which is how an abortion in a clinic goes), although most women probably wouldn't have survived (like Spicyful mentioned).
But what the hell am I talking about, this is not what I like to focus on or what anyone here would like to hear (but it is happening in the world though, and you asked...).

Here's a positive and a really natural way: just ask an unborn child to leave you if you're not ready. By praying and meditating. But you must be open and up to that. I know of a couple who was quite into a spiritual lifestyle, the guy being an energy coach and all. The girl got pregnant, they both weren't ready for it yet. They meditated together, talking to the child and saying honestly they weren't ready. They asked for it to leave, it agreed and it left. The girl could feel the child's energy leaving her body. I don't know how many months she was pregnant, or all the fine details (my sister told me about it, it were friends of her), my guess is the girl was in the beginning stage.
Now, two years later, she's pregnant again and up to it, and the child will be born and welcome in a couple of months (I don't know if it's the same child though, maybe he or she just waited and has come back for them...).

So, for some this might go a little (or wáy) over their heads, for others not, but I myself believe that if we are fully in synch with the divine, we can ask for these things this way and get what we want directly (if all the parties agree that is, and if it's the best for everyone at that moment), without having to take the long road and go to hospitals etc.
Maybe your toes are curling up in your shoes right now with disbelief, but you have to admit it sounds intruiging in the least...!

I'd recommend (natural) birth control befóre getting pregnant though... :)

[barose]

Their are certain Botanic herbs (and other classifications of herbs) that can cause a "late period", or abortion at early stages of pregnancy. They can either cause uterine contractions, or alter the hormone levels in the body causing the fetus to die. Of course, these can be very dangerous and toxic in the wrong amounts or not taken in the correct form (tincture, tea, powdered, etc), so its not recommended. I'm sure this method has been used for centuries.

I agree with the others on prevention using NPF.

[codajess]

only the method of handlilng their permissquirity.
[...]Choices are fine as long as someone innocent does not have to pay.

Holy judgmental. Not everyone who gets pregnant sleeps around (I assume you meant "promiscuity." If not, I apologize.) and not everyone who sleeps around gets pregnant.
If you don't want an abortion, don't get one. This was not the point of the OP's question.


OP: I have no idea about a "natural" method of abortion or the morning after pill (NOT synonymous, btw, for those who think they are.) So I can't comment on that. I do have to second more natural forms of birth control. I, however, have had a tubal ligation. Before I had my tubes tied, for the past 2 years, including the time I was raw last year I had the Paragard IUD.

[moonstar]

...what was your expeirence like with the Paraguard?

Thanks!

[Firicia]

Thanks everyone, a lot of interesting info.

I agree on the natural birth control. I was on the regular stuff for a while and it made me crazy and I gained a lot of weight.

Anyways thanks again for all your input

[lytlsprout]

Women also used to have like 10 or 20 kids in their life times after they got married. Basically if you were having sex in the marriage you had a lot of kids. You could also use condoms, the not really raw of vegan.

[Bobbie]

You can buy vegan condoms but not raw ones!!

There are lots of natural methods of abortion - eg eating lots and lots of papaya seeds. I can't remember how many.
There have also been many natural contraception methods throughout history such as one using crocodile dung used in Ancient Egypt. More doable is to use half a lemon as a diaphragm. The shape plugs the opening to the cervix, and the acid of the lemon juice discourages sperm from getting through. Casanova recommended this method, but these days it wouldnt be a good option. A real diaphragm would be more effective. IUDs seem to be the best choice.
I once read an article in a magazine about a machine that measures your hormone levels and tells you when you're fertile, then you abstain on the days when you are - it sounded wonderful but I can't remember its name and have been unable to find info on it since.

[rawzeit]

I once read an article in a magazine about a machine that measures your hormone levels and tells you when you're fertile, then you abstain on the days when you are - it sounded wonderful but I can't remember its name and have been unable to find info on it since.

I mentioned those in the other recent thread on this issue, but now I forget the name too. I did post a link, though. ;)

[trinity082482]

I think if you get good at recording when your ovulating then you can enjoy your partner during the times when your cycle is very low. People who WANT to get pregnant use this as a method to keep track of when is the best time to have intercourse so they can have sex when ovulation is high for better results.. however this method like any other is not 100% but it could help.
I hear Raspberry tea also dilates the uterus and that is why many people who drink it while pregnant can run the risk of loosing their baby, maybe drinking this tea (made as a sun tea) could make it harder for you to get pregnant.. and the infamous other.. just say no to sex ha ha ha...