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    Default Indoor Gardening

    I want to grow at least 3-4 greens inside. I'd like to do more later. I'd love to do fruit, berries and other veggies like carrots or bellpappers. But I have NO green thumb whatsoever!I kill everything so I need to start slowly... I want greens to eat or juice. What is simple and easy to grow. How long before you can actually eat them and what type of soil and pot to use?
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    AHA! Another thread on this. I'm in the same boat. In fact, I'm gonna subscribe to this thread. I'm looking forward to some good tips. :)

    I hear herbs are nice to grow, like basil.
    -Random Violin Guy

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    Have you considered Sprouting??
    Certified LIVING ON LIVE ,RAW FOOD Chef...........
    Our PLANET is so Precious. God created this and its up to us to respect it. Did you know the Water we use today is the same water Moses used? RECYCLE everything you can at least once.... Let's keep this going...........

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    I'n not really sure where to start. I just know that I'd like to hev some basics on hand. Open to anything really.
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    what are your going to use as a light source?

    some small stuff easy to grow indoors...

    baby carrots, lettuce, spinach, strawberries

    A good grow light is good (from my experience for about 9-10 sq.ft) which is really not a bad amount of room (3' by 3' )expecially if you u stagger the plants with 2 or 3 free standing shelves (taller plants at bottom , shorter plants uptop)

    ive grown all manner of things inside my living room, from peas to corn even potatoes

    problem is most root veggies need alot of underground growing room wich is just not feasible for most indoor areas due to sq. footage. and some stuff like corn will just produce a nice decorative plant but no corn without proper cross polination

    mostly now i just stick to the leafy stuff like lettuces and spinach

    although i had a spectacular zuchini growning in my living room one year which freaked more then a few people out lol

    for semi automatic watering
    a 5 gallon bucket (or rubbermaid container if wanting bigger)... drill hole about 3/4" from bottom.. insert a plastic shut off valve.. (gate valve i think its called) ... rubber washers on both sides so water doesnt leak out.. if it leaks just use some plumbing glue of some sort to seal it ... then a pipe to valve .. poke holes in the pipe ..insert spagetti lines in the holes .. then the other end into the plant pots .. fill bucket with water...open valve..

    you will probably experience leaks the first few times untill you get them glue'd up :)

    and make sure the water source is a bit higher then the end so water gravity flows

    hydroponics and aeroponics if ya like... i prefer dirt but use all 3 methods (dirt, hydro, aero) in my home

    http://www.hydroponics.net/learn/aquafarm.asp
    the 4th pic down is what my aeroponic setup kinda looks like very similar
    http://www.jasons-indoor-guide-to-or...cs-system.html

    my hydroponics are simple 5 gallon bucket system with a gravity feed watering system
    which is similar to here
    http://www.hydroponics.net/learn/aquafarm.asp


    the only way i could get the emitters to work was to strain the worm tea through the fineness of pantyhose i have yet to find anything finer although im sure its out there in the wild world wide web lol

    the emitters i got here in canada , the internet was not available to me back in the day , but theyre the same as the grocery store ones as you say or very similiar

    i love growing things indoors ive pretty much abondoned growing plants that dont give something back .. cept for the spider plants, cactus etc and some purdy flowering thingies

    ive modified my sytsems over the years and dont doubt i will continue to evolve them so to speak, any collaboration on modifications id love to hear about, indoor gardening is a passion of mine as i fear someday we may be forced to garden in our attics or basements for fear of prosecution *sigh*

    i have pots of things growing all over the place in my house (i wish i had a camera)

    just keep the soil good and theres tons of things you can grow inside

    i rotate stuff around all the time so they get light from the windows .. move things in and out weather permitting

    i do use artificial grow lights when needed

    dont be afraid to experiment

    ive grown a huge zuchini plant in my living room and its just gorgeous

    stuff like that you will have to help polinate as theres no bees indoors ..

    use a paintbruss to transfer pollen from flower to flower

    ive grown potatoes, tomatoes , leafy stuff, root stuff.. play around with it.. make it fun ..the plants will enjoy your good vibes :)

    oh and compost with worms !!

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    Thought I would post this if anyone is interested. Ive used vermiculture for years in my outdoor and indoor gardening


    When food scraps are thrown into the garbage a valuable
    resource is lost. Composting with worms or vermicomposting
    provides an alternative method for disposing of
    kitchen waste. Maintaining a worm bin is fun, educational
    and will reduce household waste while providing a source of
    natural nutrients for your plants.
    Eisenia foetida, commonly called redworms, are a specific type of worm that
    are best suited for worm bins. As surface dwellers, they process large
    amounts of organic material in their natural habitats of manure, compost piles
    and decaying leaves. They reproduce quickly and love to eat a variety of
    kitchen wastes.
    Worms have no eyes, but are extremely sensitive to light which
    they "see" via special skin cells located at the head and tail end of
    their body.
    Worms have no lungs to breath with as we do. Their moist skin allows
    them to "breath" oxygen into their body and release carbon dioxide from
    inside their body into the surrounding bedding.
    Worms, in nature, will usually live and die within the same year. Worms in
    a worm bin may live up to five years.
    An earthworm can move a stone that is fifty times its own weight.
    A mature redworm (four to six weeks old) can mate and produce two to
    three cocoons per week. Two to five baby worms can hatch from each
    cocoon in only three weeks.
    A single worm has both male and female reproductive organs, but it still
    takes two worms to reproduce.
    Worm Bin Recipe
    1 10-14 gallon dark plastic storage bin with a snug fitting lid (such as a
    Rubbermaid Roughtote). Choose size according to food waste produced.
    Rule of Thumb: one square foot of surface space is needed for each pound
    of food waste produced per week.
    .
    Newspaper or shredded paper
    2-3 cups of water (sprayer optional)
    1 handful of garden soil
    ½- 1 pound of redworms
    Food waste
    .
    .
    Drill small holes on lid and along top 2-4 inches of bin to allow aeration.
    Make bedding by ripping newspapers into strips no wider than 2 inches.
    Put the paper in the container.
    Mix or spray water into newspaper until bedding is thoroughly moistened
    as a wrung-out sponge. There should be no standing water.
    Mix in soil. Fluff bedding.
    Spread worms over top of bedding.
    Bury food waste. Cover bin and place in a location where the temperature
    will remain 55-77 degrees Fahrenheit.
    Worm Bins FAQ
    WHAT KIND OF FOOD CAN I PUT IN THE WORM BIN?
    Eisenia foetida, or redworms, will eat food scraps and paper. A list of their
    favorites is given below. Feed your worms a good variety of produce scraps to
    keep an even chemical balance in the bin. Mostly fruit or tomato waste could
    make the soil too acidic. Avoid salty chips, etc. Remove moldy items &
    discard.
    Apples
    Apple Cores
    Baked Beans
    Banana Peels
    Biscuits
    Cabbage
    Cake
    Carrots
    Cereal
    Coffee Grounds
    Cucumbers
    Egg Shells*
    Grapefruit Peels
    Lettuce
    Oatmeal
    Onion Peels
    Orange Peels
    Pancakes
    Pears
    Pineapple Rind
    Pizza Crust
    Potato Peels
    Tea Leaves
    Tomatoes
    *good source of calcium carbonate, necessary for worm reproduction
    HOW MUCH DO WORMS EAT?
    Redworms eat almost half of their body weight each day. If you start with a
    pound of worms you can feed them 3-5 pounds a week. Don't worry about the
    worms when you go on vacation for a couple of weeks. The worms will eat the
    bedding when no food waste is available.
    WILL THERE BE ODORS AND BUGS?
    A properly maintained bin should not give off any offensive odors. Avoid
    adding meat scraps and always completely bury all food waste in the bin.
    Burying fruit waste will prevent fruit flies from being attracted to the worm
    bin. Air is necessary for the worms and other microorganisms to work
    effectively. Without air you may develop anaerobic conditions which will allow
    gas producing microorganisms to thrive. To further avoid fruit flies, freeze
    food waste before adding to the bin.
    WILL I NEED TO ADD MORE BEDDING?
    Add bedding every 3 - 5 weeks or when there is not enough bedding material
    to completely bury the food waste. Other suitable sources for bedding are fall
    leaves, shredded office paper or shredded corrugated cardboard.
    WHEN & HOW CAN I USE THE VERMICOMPOST?
    The redworms will work most productively when they live in 55 -77 degrees
    Fahrenheit, are fed, kept moist and minimally disturbed. Given these
    conditions you will have compost available within a few months. The worm
    castings (or vermicompost) are very rich in nutrients for plants. You may
    work the vermicompost into garden soil, add a spoonful periodically to indoor
    plant soil, or water plants with “compost tea.” castings in water.
    WHAT IS THE BEST WAY TO HARVEST THE VERMICOMPOST?
    The easiest method is the "Divide and Dump" technique. You simply remove
    about two-thirds of your vermicompost, worms and all, and dump directly
    onto your garden. Add fresh bedding to the vermicompost that is still in the
    box. There will be enough worms and cocoons remaining to repopulate the
    worm bin.
    You can let the worms do the sorting for you by putting the vermicompost
    and worms to one side of the worm bin. Then add new bedding to the empty
    side. Bury your food waste in the new bedding only. The worms will move
    over to the new bedding in search of food. After 2 to 3 months the
    vermicompost can be harvested. You can continue this back and forth method
    to simplify your harvest of future vermicompost.
    Another method is to dump and hand sort the worms from the vermicompost.
    First dump your worm bin out onto a large sheet of plastic. Make several
    cone-shaped piles. When the light is very bright the worms will quickly move
    into the center of each pile. After about five minutes, you will not be able to
    see the worms. Gently remove the outer surface of each pile, exposing the
    worms to the light and sending them deeper into the pile. Following this
    process you will eventually end up with a container of vermicompost and a
    mass of pure worms. It's a good idea to have fresh bedding made up before
    getting started with this method so you can refill your empty bin and add the
    worms as you sort.
    WHERE CAN I GET REDWORMS?
    check your local bait shop for redworms. Don't be surprised if they don't
    know them as redworms. They are also commonly called red wigglers, red
    hybrids or manure worms. If you are successful in finding redworms in your
    bait store you may find them to be more expensive than ordering from a
    grower.
    Growers sell by the pound (approximately 1,000 worms), where bait shops usually sell by the
    dozen.
    WHERE CAN I LEARN MORE?
    The worm supplier is extremely knowledgeable about worms and
    vermicomposting. Also Worms Eat My Garbage (book), Worms Eat Our
    Garbage (curriculum), and various videos are available from Flower
    field Enterprises. The web offers a host of helpful sites including
    www.wormwoman.com, www.wormdigest.org, www.wormlady, and
    www.wormwrld.com. Additional resources may be available through your
    local cooperative extension office, garden club, ecological organizations, or
    the environmental office of your local or county government.
    Information adapted from material provided by Charter Township of Ypsilanti, Environmental Services
    Department (1995) Updated by the City of Ann Arbor (2004)

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    Hey, thanks for all the info, jgunn. I'm excited to start growing a thing or two. Maybe some herbs to start with for me.
    -Random Violin Guy

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