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 Originally Posted by maraw
OK, so here's a weird one. Bruce LOVES banana! Who would have ever thought that one? Certainly not me!! He really does. Ate half of mine earlier, so I have him the rest of my daughters. He just loved it! This is really fun trying out different foods with him - just allowing his tastes to guide me.
Both of mine love banana as well. You should also try kiwi and pineapple.
just remember NO RAISINS OR GRAPES...these have the same effects as chocolate and can be fatal to dogs when large amounts are injested. I'm assuming that dates and figs would be along the same families as raisins and grapes. so i would steer away from all that.
Patti Ortiz
"A Jackie of All Trades..."
civil engineer/dog owner/chef/drag racer a.k.a. "Hot Wheelz"/mechanic/artist/seamstress/drama queen/etc, etc, etc.
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 Originally Posted by lafsalot
Shine - I have been a member of BW for quite a few years, and they often close registration from time to time - just keep trying every so often.
Try Wysong.Net (instead of org) ~ Cathy
oh cathy!! you beat me to the punch!!! thanx!!! give your two a hug and kiss from me!
BTW, I was just informed that avocado is also toxic to dogs and cats. so I just wanted to pass that along. i need to look and see where i can find a list of every food that is toxic to them. i say they love it because Cleo has countersurfed and grabbed one of my avocados and started eating it like it was an egg. I rarely give them that becasue they are so expensive, but woudl give it to them as a treat.
I think wysong has some very good info in that department.
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Patti Ortiz
"A Jackie of All Trades..."
civil engineer/dog owner/chef/drag racer a.k.a. "Hot Wheelz"/mechanic/artist/seamstress/drama queen/etc, etc, etc.
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 Originally Posted by portiz
oh cathy!! you beat me to the punch!!! thanx!!! give your two a hug and kiss from me!
Actually four right now - two 3 year old boxers, a seven year old rottie, and a 16 year old bullmastiff mx. ~ Cathy
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Patti - Thanks for the info! Cathy had already posted, like you saw, but it's nice that you tried to update it too! Right now my poor pooch (black lab/german short-haired pointer mix) that I got from a rescue in '04 is eating the Natural Life stuff that Walmart sells. I know, bad me. In my defense, I do what budget allows and that was all it has allowed for a really long time. But things are looking better, and he's got some skin thing going on - and I don't want to "medicate" him. So, now we're looking into getting the amials raw! (Spelled that way intentionally)
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Want to know what is in manufactured dog food....
Here is just a glance of the regualr ingredients delivered by rendering plants to commericial dog food manufacturers:
*euthanized dogs - toxic chemicals such as phenobarbito, the euthanizing agent injected to kell dogs daily at dog shelter (this comes with the euthanized dog who is ground up at a rendering plant to be added to dog food - the dog may still be wearing a flea collar and be in a plastic bag when rendered)!!!
*Blood
*Feathers
* Downed, dying, deseased and dead animals
*Hooves, beaks, feet, and hide....
and the list goes on and on.
Of course one alternative is to buy high quality dog food that is natural without preservatives. That can be very pricey, especially if you have a multi-dog family. However, please note that not all brands are exempt from the recall - Natural Balance is recalling some of their foods today.
If you are not ready to delve into feeding your dog raw, there is a free primer on home-cooking online at: http//www.pet-grub.com
Cathy
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 Originally Posted by shine72
Patti - Thanks for the info! Cathy had already posted, like you saw, but it's nice that you tried to update it too! Right now my poor pooch (black lab/german short-haired pointer mix) that I got from a rescue in '04 is eating the Natural Life stuff that Walmart sells. I know, bad me.  In my defense, I do what budget allows and that was all it has allowed for a really long time. But things are looking better, and he's got some skin thing going on - and I don't want to "medicate" him. So, now we're looking into getting the amials raw! (Spelled that way intentionally)
Hey, I understand...i had Zeus on Maxximum Nutrition lamb and rice formula for a long time...another walmart brand. i think as long as you see that the main ingredient is not corn or an animal by-product, you're good to go.
I would supplement though with raw chicken or beef bones...especially beef bones. Your local butcher would probably let you have any bones for free, if you ask nicely.
Patti Ortiz
"A Jackie of All Trades..."
civil engineer/dog owner/chef/drag racer a.k.a. "Hot Wheelz"/mechanic/artist/seamstress/drama queen/etc, etc, etc.
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Patti - Thanks, that was what I was planning on starting with. I'm going to start incorporating more raw and less dog food until I can get him transitioned, cause I know it's not good for dogs to radically switch their diet.
lafsalot - I know about the higher priced natural. And we bought that when we first got him. But we had hit really hard times financially, and nobody in this house was eating what I would call "real food" as we had to get our food from a food bank for a while there. Now that we can do better, we are.
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 Originally Posted by shine72
I'm going to start incorporating more raw and less dog food until I can get him transitioned, cause I know it's not good for dogs to radically switch their diet.
They'll tell you when they're ready to switch away from kibble. but you know...its funny because I still mix their kibble with their daily "treat" whether its raw chicken or beef. I also add hot water to make it "soupy." Cleo will dig into her bowl like a mad dog and shakes all the kibble off it...like she's "killed" the bird. And devours that thing. then she goes over and sits in front of zeus and barks at him to hurry up so she can eat his leftovers, if any.
Zeus will delicately take it out and licks off the kibble that's stuck to it and (I've personally seen him do this) spits out the kibble. Then he proceeds to savor every bite, thereby infuriating Cleo much more.
This happens every afternoon between 5:30 and 6pm CST.
Patti Ortiz
"A Jackie of All Trades..."
civil engineer/dog owner/chef/drag racer a.k.a. "Hot Wheelz"/mechanic/artist/seamstress/drama queen/etc, etc, etc.
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Your dog is GORGEOUS!!!!!
And email this place: www.angelshealthfoodinstitute.com about it.
BUT DOGS CAN BE HAPPY VEGANS. Cats can be too but it's more difficult.
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How do u know?
If the package says lamb and rice in its product it does not mean it is the same lamb as humans eat. I would guess that it is anything that humans would not eat and prob sick lambs. It would cost way to much to actually put a healthy meat in dog or cat food. I used to give my dog canned dog food. It smelled yummy like a human could eat it. Gave my dog the trots......so i had to quit feeding it. I dont know what is in some of the foods i give my dog but feel he is sensitive to preservatives and such.
I am still dehydrating my first batch of crackers for the dogs. I have been feeding it to them as it is drying. They love it. I just need to add more to it next time. It has steel cut oats, lentil beans, carrots, orange, apple, some nuts that was getting past its prime, salt and some dried herbs I have. I have eaten some myself. I did not put onions in so it is not as flavorful as I was hopeing for.
Hope i can find some info on the net for making dif kinds of healthy raw food for my best bud.
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my two pups (both are resuce dogs too :) ) LOVE carrots. one of them also loves celery, the other plays with it for a bit and then leaves it on the floor to be eaten by the first pup. but theyre not vegan..my mom feeds them some organic/all-natural/raw (but dried/dehydrated) stuff..but they do get chicken and rice once or so a week (or if theyve been having tummy issues..which the younger one does a lot bc she was vaccinated hardcore since she was a rescue dog from katrina). my mom tried doing raw meat with them, but neither of them tolerated it well at all (even though it was raw, organic, from a special raw-meat dog store). my guess is bc of their vaccinations.
i personally dont believe dogs should be vegan. they are naturally omnivorous, and imposing our own ethics on them, IMO, inhibits their right to be that which they are: dogs.
We don't have ideology. We don't have theology. We dance.
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I no particular quantities or measurements, I make wonderful dog treats for my Aussie....
pulp from juicing...any and all veggies we use
raw ground beef or turkey
garlic
flax...ground
olive oil
oats
eggs
brewer's yeast
and...anything else I have on hand that would be healthy
I mix and pat our about 1/2" thick on mesh sheets...cut in small 1" squares, and dehydrate until absolutely dry. Break apart and store.
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 Originally Posted by CAdreamer
I no particular quantities or measurements, I make wonderful dog treats for my Aussie....
pulp from juicing...any and all veggies we use
raw ground beef or turkey
garlic
flax...ground
olive oil
oats
eggs
brewer's yeast
and...anything else I have on hand that would be healthy
I mix and pat our about 1/2" thick on mesh sheets...cut in small 1" squares, and dehydrate until absolutely dry. Break apart and store.
awesome!! I will have to try this. i had made some flax seed crackers for me the other day, and they absolutley loved them.
Patti Ortiz
"A Jackie of All Trades..."
civil engineer/dog owner/chef/drag racer a.k.a. "Hot Wheelz"/mechanic/artist/seamstress/drama queen/etc, etc, etc.
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Thanks Patti and all for the great suggestions as they roll in. My dog is so picky but mainly eats her raw wild game meat and some chicken which she is not fond of. Even when I mix veggies in her food, ground fine, she has a way of picking out every little bit. Sounds crazy but that's her. I don't give her treats, but would gladly make some.
Does the meat, besides liver, stink in the dehydrator?????????
I was in a dog coop and ordered Salmon oil adding to the food daily. The dog loved it and heard great for skin problems which my dog didn't have. Keep the sharing up. We can never know too much.
carolg, mom to Molly
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 Originally Posted by carolg
Thanks Patti and all for the great suggestions as they roll in. My dog is so picky but mainly eats her raw wild game meat and some chicken which she is not fond of. Even when I mix veggies in her food, ground fine, she has a way of picking out every little bit. Sounds crazy but that's her. I don't give her treats, but would gladly make some.
Does the meat, besides liver, stink in the dehydrator?????????
I was in a dog coop and ordered Salmon oil adding to the food daily. The dog loved it and heard great for skin problems which my dog didn't have. Keep the sharing up. We can never know too much.
carolg, mom to Molly
No, not all meats smell when they are dehydrated.
As for your picky veggie eater, you can try mixing them with some ground offal or meat.
My furbabies get fish once or twice a week, so do not worry about supplementing with fish oil. Btw, salmon has a parasite (as does wild game) and should be frozen at least a month prior to feeding) I always steam the salmon anyway just to be sure.
Give your furbaby a big hug from me ~ Cathy
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