Pailani, I agree...
Originally Posted by Pailani
Jeff, yes, there is some confusion... to offer email to members rather than posting the information in the thread, that basically states there's information that does not pertain to the mission statement of this forum. If it does pertain to the mission statement, then let's discuss it openly in the threads instead of secretly through email.
People come to this forum to discuss how the vegan raw food lifestyle can help them meet their goals. Let's assume that we're all intelligent and know full-well that if we want information on dairy or raw meat we all know how to do a search to get that info. That's the beauty of the internet, there are different sites for different things, and let's let them be different things. I personally love the specialty of this site and would like to have it stay that way. I've researched all the other ways of eating already, and that's why I'm here, because I've made that decision already. This forum is not to help people make decisions on what's the best diet. They've come here to explore THIS diet, please let's leave it at that.
Jeff, you have a lot of knowledge to share regarding vegan raw foods and I've learned some great things from some of your posts. I look forward to more.
RawfoodieMom, I agree!
Originally Posted by wisslewj
Aren't those contradictory?
Originally Posted by wisslewj
You carnilactovore, you! LOL! I know you have good intentions and are probably frustrated by all this but this IS a vegan board hosted and funded by Alissa Cohen. Please respect that. If you feel compelled to offer advise, you could always contact people by emailing THEM via their profile. If they find you a help, great! If not, we all won't have to see it.
I do hope you stick around as the others have mentioned, and offer up your raw VEGAN knowlege.
I think you people here are very nice and patient indeed. And, I would not want it any other way.
Have you seen this?: Biology of internet trolls.
Recently, someone named "confuzed" has been banned from rawfoodsupport boards. They tried reincarnateing a few times to no avail......
Okay, I do have this feeling that Jeff really is sincere in his offering of assistance to the members here. He is now only mentioning supplements and that's fine as many here take supplements already.
Some of the websites he recommends may have some non-vegan information on them and that's sometimes unavoidable - I think Alissa just doesn't want any anti-raw site links posted for the most part. There are some things that we have posted in the past for example, there is this one article or list that was posted of various sources of calcium. The majority of the list was plant-based, but there were a few meat, dairy and cooked food items listed.
But sometimes we have to just glean what we need and throw the rest out.
I just want the peace back. The last few days have been kinda crazy...but after really giving some thought to this, I just think Jeff's a sincere person trying to help out.
Let's give him a chance and a break and let's all (myself included) try to be a little more tolerant. And let's all keep in mind that this forum is to help people overcome their obstacles in a vegan/vegetarian fashion and just be mindful of this fact when offering suggestions, referrencing links, etc.
I also want to say that everyone's experiences are different...while Jeff and his wife may have felt led to resort to certain measures to gain their health and vitality, not everyone has to or feels the need to go that route.
Having said all of the above, I think we can now close this chapter as well and move on. Lots of hugs all around!
Cherie aka Rawkinlocs
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