This debate on Fat

[LightLover]

Reactions to quote's of Wissle:

well I am sure you know that some of these saturated fats come in lots of non vegan raw whole foods.
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* No! I don't agree. There are enough superior vegan saturated fats
to let forget the animal saturated fats
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In regard to EFA's I have found we need about 4% of our diet as balanced EFA's. To be honest, other then flax seeds I am not aware of any good whole food vegan sources. am not sure what this does to the fat content, ie it oxidizes it all or not?)
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* What are your thoughts/objections about hempseed, and chiaseed?
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Vandy--I agree I prefer the whole food myself as well, but as coconut oil is a fermented food, it is still raw and alive. I was cracking open a coconut a day in the summer, but now the store just doesnt have enough for me! :P
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* the same for red palm oil: not available as a whole food
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* Wissle, what do you think: should we eat every different fat directly, in order to avoid the energyloss of transforming one fat in to another, or not?

LL

[LightLover]

Quoting rawnut:



They are essential in that everyone needs them for energy.

* carbohydrates are not a unique source of energy, that's why they are not essential. They are not unique in anyway, in any function.
And being unique is the criterium for being essential. Or not..?
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but when you can make saturated fats.. out of these carbohydrates

Whenever you need them...
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* You do need them!. many cellmembranes are flexible, because they are formed out of saturated fat (braincells!) when not saturated fat available
these cellsmembranes will become rigid and stiff
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but if you don't eat enough carbohydrates a saturated fat intake becomes essential.

If you don't eat enough carbohydrates or calories period, you aren't getting enough of anything!
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* see above: there is still no argument for carbohydrates to be essential.
(I don't say they have to be avoid at all, I only say they are not essential
in the way that there is not a single performance they have, which can't be fulfilled by other nutrients)

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Wissle, be free to join also in this discussion!

LL

[lissomllama]

I love fats and I eat them but I eat them in smaller amounts simply because I feel better when I eat less fat and more fruits and veggies and my hair sheds less as well. Fat is very good, needed for optimum health and I eat a little bit each day but in my case, it is best if fat is what I eat the least of.