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Hi Jeff,
The link to the website does not work. Could you please provide another one?
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 Originally Posted by VeryBerry
Hi Jeff,
The link to the website does not work. Could you please provide another one?
The dentist's name was Weston Price, so I think the T was left out of the link.
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OOPS lol
Its www.westonaprice.org
I missed the T the first time. Sorry.
And veryberry, i just sent ya an email with what i posted yesterday that wasnt alloed like ya asked. ;)
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*Bows to sharons wisdom and insight!!*
You are right! ;)
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Wisslewj-What about vitamin A Palmitate? Is that Retinal (retinol)?
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Vglove,
There are types of retinal just like types of calcium. SOme are actually made by man and are synthetic. They are harmful.
I dont advocate a supplent as there are really easy natural and simple raw ways to get plenty of this absolutely necessary vitamin in food. (almost all supps should be avoided. if ya need em, something about the diet isnt right)
A quick google will tell what happens when this Vitamin is deficient and as I stated before, betacaratine, in the absent of sufficient vitamin A stores in the liver and saturated fats in the diet will NOT become active Vitamin A. This has been shown chemically.
(also Active Vitamin A from foods has no toxicity level. When in combonation with Vitamin D, which occurs naturally, one cannot become toxic on either of these 2 fat soluable vitamins. Another reason to avoid supps and do it NATURALLY)
I will be happy to tell you what these natural ways are and you could choose what works for you, but they are not vegan so you will have to email me.
Hope that helps
Jeff
wisslewj@yahoo.com
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I always hear people saying some people eat too much fruit, but what do you replace the fruit with? We don't want to eat a lot of fat do we? Of course we need some, but not that much right? Grains? Vegetables? What else is there?
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I have been experiencing a lot of tooth sensitivity lately, I did have some dentistry work done a few months back but this sensitivity seems unrelated. It is quite painful at times. Could it be I am eating too much fruit?
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Depends. Sensitivity could be a cavity forming; it could also be a tooth repairing itself. Are you getting enough minerals? Dulse and olives are good sources.
As to fruit, there are various kinds:
sweet (orange, apple)
sour (lemon)
fleshy but neither (tomato)
fatty (avocado, olive)
too hard to eat (nut shells)
So if you're eating too many apples, you could replace some with tomatoes or olives. Or you could eat vegetables instead.
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 Originally Posted by Kathy Fields
I have been experiencing a lot of tooth sensitivity lately, I did have some dentistry work done a few months back but this sensitivity seems unrelated. It is quite painful at times. Could it be I am eating too much fruit? 
You may consider rinsing your mouth with or drinking water after eating it, especially if it's citrus or dried/sweet fruit such as dates.
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Thanks for that advice I will rinse and see how it goes. I dont really want to not eat as much fruit at the moment as we are just coming out of winter where there was little fruit to choose from so now the desire to 'pig out' is really strong.
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If you are eating or drinking anything with citrus (orage, lemon, grapefruit) do not brush your immediately after consumption as the acid in the citrus can soften the enamel and brushing can cause damage. Wait a minimum of 30 minutes before brushing teeth.
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Hey Kathy,
Swishing is a good idea for sure and Naturesgarden is right on about brushing, BUT, i am almost positive this wont help.
If te teeth are turning translucent and hurting that is a sign the enamal is being taken away. that means minerals are being removed and that only happens on a deficient diet (especially when fruit intake is high).
From experience, I (and my wife) was in your position. teeth hurt and such. I thought, just a detox i will rinse. Big mistake. The month a spent "rinsing" and consuming large quantities of fruit was the month that broke the camels back. I started getting lil spots on my teeth. (and i havent had but 2 cavities my whole life!) And they HURT!
I have since added a few things to my diet and cut back the fruit and they are now remineralizing nicely. I even avoided the dentist! I still have a few spots but i think they will be 100% gone in time. there has already been HUGE improvements in both my and my wifes teeth.
God Bless
Jeff
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 Originally Posted by wisslewj
Hey Kathy,
Swishing is a good idea for sure and Naturesgarden is right on about brushing, BUT, i am almost positive this wont help.
If te teeth are turning translucent and hurting that is a sign the enamal is being taken away. that means minerals are being removed and that only happens on a deficient diet (especially when fruit intake is high).
From experience, I (and my wife) was in your position. teeth hurt and such. I thought, just a detox i will rinse. Big mistake. The month a spent "rinsing" and consuming large quantities of fruit was the month that broke the camels back. I started getting lil spots on my teeth. (and i havent had but 2 cavities my whole life!) And they HURT!
I have since added a few things to my diet and cut back the fruit and they are now remineralizing nicely. I even avoided the dentist! I still have a few spots but i think they will be 100% gone in time. there has already been HUGE improvements in both my and my wifes teeth.
God Bless
Jeff
But the thing is Jeff, is that not everyone shares you and your wife's experiences. There are some people who have teeth issues with raw and there are some who's teeth get actually BETTER than they ever have with a raw (vegan) diet - fruit and all.
So, to tell Kathy that swishing won't work for her simply because it did not work for you is kinda wrong. She can try it and it just may work for her although it did not for you.
If individuals find that after a while they are no longer thriving on this diet, they can and will research other things...it's been done time and time again - some go back to SAD, some go to macrobiotic, some go to raw paleo...but they can and will begin to seek out other things if they feel this is not working for them...but it (a raw vegan/vegetarian diet) IS working for a LOT more than it's not working for!
But again, MANY people do not have tooth issues or if they do, they end up being alleviated overtime. A lot of people have reported on this very forum that after simply increasing their greens intake via green smoothies or swishing with wheatgrass that they no longer had tooth issues...no meat or dairy required!
Also (and this is not necessarily in reference to the above post, but rather the overall tone of your recent postings (and emailings to others), I NEED you to please keep in mind and respect that this site is in SUPPORT of those seeking to thrive on a raw vegan/vegetarian-style diet. We are here to help them with suggestions based on that aspect. If you read or would read my post on respecting the origins of RFT, you'll see that I mentioned this not being a "general" raw food board where any and everything goes. In fact, let me give you the direct link to that thread so you can better "feel" where I'm coming from: http://www.rawfoodtalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=7288
Now, you can call us "cultish" or whatever you please, but this is how it's laying down. This forum has a purpose and I will enforce that. If someone wants or needs a more general raw food forum that advocates any and all aspects of eating raw food including animals or avoiding fruit, then they can locate them and participate on those. But that's not what this is for, we believe that fruit is an important part of the raw diet...it's for support of the raw vegan/vegetarian diet and those who wish to go that route.
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Hey Raw,
whats the matter? I havent once stated anything about eating dairy, eggs or anything non vegan in here since ya asked me not to. I have respectfully emailed one person (Others emailed me) that i thought may benefit from the teeth info.
If ya notice i said that if the "teeth are turning translucent" swishing wont help. That isnt based on opinion. When the teeth turn that way, thats a "from the inside issue". from the outside ya get things like very specific points of decay. A general lessening of the white though is a loss of enamal and minerals overall and thats an inner issue. i did not mean to be say your advise was poor (i even said rinsing was just smart) just was explaining some of the science about why rinsing is the improper remedy to the translucent issue.
I hope we are still pals. Again i thought i was doing well to not bring up the raw dairy.
God Bless
Jeff
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