Spinach Scam E.coli? here's an answer

[rawbeliever]

wow, thanks for all the great information, Alex, Lay-Lay & Dream. Super useful. I was wondering if the person who died was elderly. It's very frustrating that the media never gives you the full story, but at least I always know to suspect that they aren't giving me the full story. I wish they'd make this big a deal about things like cigarettes and cheetos. It seems a little penny-wise and pound-foolish to me that all my organic bagged spinach at Trader Joe's has been pulled from the shelves, but there's plenty of sausages to be had. :)

[dreamrawalwz]

wow, thanks for all the great information, Alex, Lay-Lay & Dream. Super useful. I was wondering if the person who died was elderly. It's very frustrating that the media never gives you the full story, but at least I always know to suspect that they aren't giving me the full story. I wish they'd make this big a deal about things like cigarettes and cheetos. It seems a little penny-wise and pound-foolish to me that all my organic bagged spinach at Trader Joe's has been pulled from the shelves, but there's plenty of sausages to be had. :)

I heard a rumor that they're UPPING the amount of nicotine in cigaretts?? random, i know!

[JennaBoBenna]

I heard a rumor that they're UPPING the amount of nicotine in cigaretts?? random, i know!

Just what the world needs, MOAR NIKOTEEN! Ugh!!

[Lay-Lay]

sounds like addictions are on the rise.

[Doe]

dreamrawalwz, I read an article yeeeears ago about tobacco products. At that time they contained 167 addictive ingredients. It boggles the mind. Do you think they can do more to make them addictive? Anything to make money. Do you remember it Lay-Lay? It had a skull and crossbones on the cover I believe. You may have been too young to remember it. Just wondering.

Teri S

[luckitri]

I really loved your historical input. I suspect that most cities did not have adequate water treatment or sewage systems in place at that time and so the public needed to be careful just as we do if we go to Mexico where we are not used to the bacteria.

[GlimR]

I saw on MSN that they were plowing the spinach fields under. That has to be a devestating loss economically. Thanks for all the great information on this thread.......many are watching.

[dreamrawalwz]

I saw on MSN that they were plowing the spinach fields under. That has to be a devestating loss economically. Thanks for all the great information on this thread.......many are watching.

Arh that sucks! It's NOT the spinach fields, it's in the process after harvesting (at least on organic fields). Can't they just switch out the wate or something?

[sno white]

Would it not be safe to rinse our fresh produce with GSE or Peroxide? I have washed fresh produce using both for years and thought it would take care of any problem. Depending on the produce which one I use.

[Sharon in Colorado]

I saw on MSN that they were plowing the spinach fields under. That has to be a devestating loss economically. Thanks for all the great information on this thread.......many are watching.

On our local news they had a piece with a Colorado spinach farmer on his field. You could tell he was frustrated as he said the contiminated spinach was in California, and his is not sold in bags. He said their family had spinach last night for dinner and they were all fine.

I think even if you wanted to buy spinach maybe nobody would let you to cover their liabliity. Their insurance coverage may not be eligible in the rare case that some get sick and tries to sue the farm.

[wyjoz]

I saw on MSN that they were plowing the spinach fields under. That has to be a devestating loss economically. Thanks for all the great information on this thread.......many are watching.

it's sad that there was no discovery of E coli in the fields just in bagged spinach and the fields are being plowed under; here is a few articles--from about 100's that my mind is working on and working out:

1.The woman fell ill in late August and has been diagnosed with Hemolytic Uremic Syndrome, said Melaney Arnold, a spokeswoman for the Illinois Department of Public Health. Arnold said the woman was in stable condition Monday, but that the food-borne illness could be life threatening.

The woman's name was not being released, Arnold said. Joz here::::: does she or did she even exist?

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/c...ck=1&cset=true



ah, here is some politics !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! a 77 y/o "NAMELES" woman was a sacrifice due to #2 below??? TO TEACH THE FARMERS A LESSON AND COMPLY WITH SAFETY REGULATIONS? Hmmmm? just thinking!

2. Farmers told a year ago to improve safety - Infectious Diseases ...
E. coli outbreak is the 20th since 1995 linked to spinach or lettuce ... The Illinois Department of Public Health said Monday an elderly woman hospitalized ...

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14841731 """""
SAN FRANCISCO - Federal health officials told California farmers to improve produce safety in a pointed warning letter last November, nearly a year before the multistate E. coli outbreak linked to spinach.

In fact, the current food-poisoning episode is the 20th since 1995 linked to spinach or lettuce,""""""


3.The woman (77 y/o) ; became ill in August and is now hospitalized with Hemolytic Uremic Syndrome (HUS), a form of kidney failure that can be associated with E. coli 0157:H7. She has a history of eating spinach. Joz here: but what else she ate that made her so sick? did she drink? smoke? Life time of SAD food=malnutrition we all know that.

She is dead so it should say she 'had' a history of eating spinach? no? http://www.courierpress.com/news/200...inach-illinoi/


4. A Seattle law firm said it planned to add Natural Selection Foods on Monday to federal lawsuits previously filed in Wisconsin and Oregon that named other spinach producers
Copyright 2006 The Associated Press. All rights reserved.This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed.

5. Fields are being PLOWED UNDER even theough there's no E.coli ??????

I DARE anyone to make sense out of this; everything above is too suspicious/bizzare/ mabe untrue? Joz

[Pailani]

Wasn't there also a 23-month-old little girl who died?

I wouldn't be surprised if they used this to scare the public into accepting irradiated foods.

[Pailani]

3.The woman (77 y/o) ; became ill in August and is now hospitalized with Hemolytic Uremic Syndrome (HUS), a form of kidney failure that can be associated with E. coli 0157:H7. She has a history of eating spinach. Joz here: but what else she ate that made her so sick? did she drink? smoke?

I don't know. One woman died, but hundreds got sick and I'm assuming they all had spinach-consumption in common. If a batch of spinach has ecoli, I'd want them to be taking steps to make sure it doesn't happen again.

[wyjoz]

I don't know. One woman died, but hundreds got sick and I'm assuming they all had spinach-consumption in common. If a batch of spinach has ecoli, I'd want them to be taking steps to make sure it doesn't happen again.

But think about this: in my city there are 9 grocery stores; plus a few in surrounding cities. Every store sold spinach so that's at least 12 bags in a box ordered. My store replaced bagged spinach 3 times a week. I asked! I know all the produce personnell. So 1/2 of my city should be contaminated/sick ! NO? So calculate every city in every state all over USA and we get one woman 77 y/o died and 113 sick? This does not add up. Never will. I'm not buying it. A 23 month old baby ? How much spinach did it consume? was the baby RAW smoothie drinker? HMMM? Did you check out Gerry Lewis--Hospital for Children(forgot the name)(St Jude's Hospital?) how many babies are there dying! But here is one sick baby from E.coli !!!!!!!!!!!!! Media/Politics/FDA Play on US--- brainwashing. The old and the very young! AND WE ALL SAY OH, HOW HORRIBLE! Yes it is, don't get me wrong. Any death is wrong! Unless it's from a wonderfully lived out life, then I go to sleep and R.I.P . on my grave. HOW MANY PEOPLE LIVE IN USA? THAT EAT SPINACH?

[Lay-Lay]

dreamrawalwz, I read an article yeeeears ago about tobacco products. At that time they contained 167 addictive ingredients. It boggles the mind. Do you think they can do more to make them addictive? Anything to make money. Do you remember it Lay-Lay? It had a skull and crossbones on the cover I believe. You may have been too young to remember it. Just wondering.

Teri S

I do remember that. I am going to get it out this week and read it again. I have every magazine back until 1937 I believe, so I am sure I have it, LOL.