Who feeds their pets raw??

[Narz]

Clicking the link didn't work for me though. Here it is again. http://www.catnutrition.org/foodmaking.html

Very good info, thanks. :)

[vgloveforlife]

All organically raised and loved

Something just struck me about this sentence. Yeah they love them so much and that's why they brutally slaughter them when it's time.

[shelly]

Hi I have a cat that i feed raw and a dog 5 months. . The dog eats organic chicken necks, brisket bones organic and what I eat raw... Likes avo, brocoli, watermelon most fruit, apples, raw muesli(no grains), and chicken carcasses.

Well cats are carnivores. so they need meat. My cat has changed radically since I took it off dried food cuck that is slowly killing domesticated animals. the people I met who only feed their cat or dog dried biscuits cos the vet said its a s'cience brand' are not being told the truth. These vets make heaps out of surgeries and medicines for sick animals that could easily avoid having their lives cut short or unnessecary suffering by changing their diets.
My cat now has a beautiful temperment, is not agitated and plays like a kitten and she is 13. I learnt about raw foods for animals through an article written by Katya from www. Rawjuvenate in Australia. You can read more there. She is a wise long time raw, beautiful 50 woman passionate about educating people to change their children's diets and their pets diets.

People comment that my dog has NO smelly breath, NO smelly coat and clear shiny eyes, NO gunk in the corners or under the eyes.

If your cat has been brought up on dried food, it will go thru withdrawels for a few days. It is so addictive that stuff. But it is worth going through it. Be patient and offer chopped chicken necks and a little fish. Eventually it will get its taste back for its natural diet. And you'll have a loving, playful, allergy free, non scratching , peaceful, contented loving cat.

Your cat will stop the outrageous water consumption it craves in order for its poor bodies to try and dilute the assault on their kidneys from the salted dried ....poison.

My cat hardly eva drinks at all. Her eyes are so bright and shiny and her coat, well it just glistens!!!!! Who said a cat or dog needs tinned c... or dried...for health its actually for sickness and early death.

Hope this helps :)

[michigan roman]

Something just struck me about this sentence. Yeah they love them so much and that's why they brutally slaughter them when it's time.

thank you vlfl , thats exactly how i feel . my thought here is to feed pets raw plant matter . its time for humans to evolve into greater nonpredatory beings . and make our pets that with us .

[dogmd]

A collegue of mine healed a cats Inflammatory bowel disease by feeding Raw. There is a company that sells fresh/ frozen quail for this very purpose. The clients just thawed out the quail daily and let the cat eat the feathers, bones, skull and all. Another vet took the cat off of all meds after the cat he started gaining weight and stopped vomiting. Now he thrives off of the quail. It can be quite expensive. But not as expensive as the Vet Bills. :)

[lane]

thank you vlfl , thats exactly how i feel . my thought here is to feed pets raw plant matter . its time for humans to evolve into greater nonpredatory beings . and make our pets that with us .

think about how quickly the intricate way our planet runs/exists would unravel if predatory creatures didn't exist- it would be chaotic to say the least. though it may not go far with regards to making compassionate people feel good about the deaths of other creatures, dogs and cats are designed to eat meat and it would be awfully unfortunate for them to be denied consuming it.

[Lay-Lay]

I feed mine raw. But he is sick right now and won't hardly eat.

[vgloveforlife]

think about how quickly the intricate way our planet runs/exists would unravel if predatory creatures didn't exist- it would be chaotic to say the least. though it may not go far with regards to making compassionate people feel good about the deaths of other creatures, dogs and cats are designed to eat meat and it would be awfully unfortunate for them to be denied consuming it.

I don't think anyone is arguing the predators importance. Dogs and cats are domesticated. They live in our houses, sleep in our beds and rely on us for their food (raw or not). They are far from their natural exsistance. Therefore, I don't think a variation of their diet is a crime. The longest living dog is on a vegetarian diet (not veg kibble though).
If you want your animals to eat the way they were designed, then let them outside to go catch their own food instead of eating from a bowl.

That said I do agree that a raw meat diet can be healthy for dogs and cats.

[Imagine]

My cat and 2 dogs eat raw,

bones
egg yolk
raw meat
juicer pulp
fruit
organs
ground flax seeds
chicken necks



my dogs get regular marrow bones

I give a small amount of vegetable pulp mixed in with a larger amount of meat (minced) in their meal and a tiny amount of ground flaxseed 1 - 2 times a week.

No grains

I don't supplement..

[lane]

I don't think anyone is arguing the predators importance. Dogs and cats are domesticated. They live in our houses, sleep in our beds and rely on us for their food (raw or not). They are far from their natural exsistance. Therefore, I don't think a variation of their diet is a crime. The longest living dog is on a vegetarian diet (not veg kibble though).
If you want your animals to eat the way they were designed, then let them outside to go catch their own food instead of eating from a bowl.

That said I do agree that a raw meat diet can be healthy for dogs and cats.

our cats do catch their own food- as i mentioned in my first post- they very rarely want to come indoors or eat from a bowl. i don't recall saying that any variation would be a crime...and if it is, i can think of far worse.

[codajess]

I don't think anyone is arguing the predators importance. Dogs and cats are domesticated. They live in our houses, sleep in our beds and rely on us for their food (raw or not). They are far from their natural exsistance. Therefore, I don't think a variation of their diet is a crime. The longest living dog is on a vegetarian diet (not veg kibble though).
If you want your animals to eat the way they were designed, then let them outside to go catch their own food instead of eating from a bowl.

That said I do agree that a raw meat diet can be healthy for dogs and cats.

If you think the only choices are to : Feed your animal crap processed kibble, or let them outdoors to fend for themselves, I think that's ridiculous.
That's like me saying if you want to eat the way we're designed to eat; raw, you better not be going to the grocery store and buying it. You better be growing every last bit of it yourself.

You can feed an animal what it's designed to eat without having to pick one of those 2 choices above.

[codajess]

thank you vlfl , thats exactly how i feel . my thought here is to feed pets raw plant matter . its time for humans to evolve into greater nonpredatory beings . and make our pets that with us .

I think her point was that they shouldn't use the word "loved." Not that it's wrong to do it.

Carnivores are designed to eat meat. You can't just change or "evolve" them from that, just because WE aren't designed to eat meat. They aren't humans. There's no excuse for us to eat meat. They are SUPPOSED to eat meat. I think its wrong to have pets if you can't feed them what they're designed to eat, as someone else said.

A lot of vegetarians/vegans I know aren't so much opposed to the eating of meat, but the way they're bred, raised, and treated; so they abstain from being a part of the entire process. Usually it's seeing video or learning about factory farming that makes one go veg.

[vgloveforlife]

Here's one of the longest living dogs: http://dogsinthenews.com/issues/0209...es/020918a.htm

Codajess: I don't think those are the only choices. I never said that. In fact like I said above I actually feed my dog raw meat.
I just hate the whole natural argument used from people against veg diets for dogs and cats (especially dogs). If you want natural then you probably shouldn't even have a pet. Pets are not natural so I don't think it is wrong for people to feed them away from their natural diet. I think both diets can be healthy.
In fact dogs do very well on a fresh plant diet.

just because WE aren't designed to eat meat

Just so you know we are omnivores so we WERE designed to eat meat.

[codajess]

Just so you know we are omnivores so we WERE designed to eat meat.

This must be why we have to cook it so we don't get ill. And why we don't salivate when we see road kill. And the thought of eating dogs makes us sick, but cows are ok.
I can leave out my cats' meat all day, and they can eat it when it's stinky and gamey hours later, and be fine.

Anyhoo, I'll refrain from posting in this thread anymore.

[Guppy]

To get back on track here, I have a raw pet food question. I have been reading about the BARF diet (raw meats and bones and plants). And someone above mentioned feeding marrow bones. My question is about Mad Cow disease. Can our dogs get that? My understanding is that it comes from the bone marrow of an infected cow, right? How do we know our dogs won't get it?

My other question is, as a life-long vegetarian, I think I will hurl if I have to handle stinky raw meat for my dog. Yet I do believe it would be the most healthy for her and definitely better than the dry junk I give her now. I am in such a quandry about this.

Any advice? Codajess, if you're still out there I would love to hear your take.

Thanks,
emily