Confused about best diet...

[Sadii]

Graham says fat is at fault in a yeast overgrowth, and to eat large amounts of fruit, Cousens says that you need to avoid fruit at first, and now I'm totally confused. I have noticed that I seem more tired since cutting out fruit, but my mind is more clear - hallelujah! But, I'm really tired of being tired! Sorry to whine, guess I need some nut-cheese with it

Anyone have ideas? I have checked a lot of sites. I guess I will have to save pennies for a consultation.

Thanks
Kathy

[kirk]

Hi Sadii,

I wish there were a cut and dried answer for the raw diet. I have to admit that I'm a little confused also trying to glean truth from so many different opinions. I have my on thoughts about yeast overgrowth. (but it's only my 2 cents for what thats worth). It's my understanding that yeast overgrowth is brought about by a die off of healthy bacteria in the colon due to over acidic conditions or antibiotic medications, which creates the perfect environment for yeast to grow. The way I see it is that fruit sugars would feed the yeast an promote growth. The only way that seems right to me is to alter the environment in the colon making it less acidic and introducing a healthier climate for the benificial bacteria to grow. Then take a probiotic like primal force to reintroduce the healthy bacteria back in. Don't take my word for it though but thats just how I understand it.

[Sadii]

I think you're right. I guess we both agree with Cousens, then. Too bad, I really wanted Graham to be right, and maybe he is partially, but anyway, I sure miss my fruit. I'll try to be as perfect as possible, and soon I can get back to eating it. I may still spring for the consultation, though. I suppose I could always try each way for awhile, but sometimes it seems as though it takes awhile for you to be able to really tell, and then if it's not working, it takes a long time to feel better again.

I shouldn't complain! At least I'm not stuck in a room with no ventilation, running an air filter because I'm sensitive to everything, like I used to be. I can work now, and I have a bit of a life. I've come a long way, and I shouldn't look at how far I have to go. I guess I just don't want to waste any time getting there! Places to go, people to see, etc! Have to start a raw foods group for the area!

Thanks,
Kathy

[kirk]

I guess what I was trying to say was that cutting fruit from the diet is only part of the solution. To me, the most important part is creating a healthy environment in the colon, not just by altering the diet but by giving the colon a good house cleaning, thereby making it more suitable for good bacteria and less suitable for yeast.

To me, that would help bring about a more immediate end to the problem.....kirk

[lil]

I think you have to go with what makes you feel good. Listen to your body.
I'm doing the high fruit (Graham's) now and never felt better. When I was raw before and ate sprouted grains, nuts and more fat - I felt terrible (and gained weight). One thing I like about Graham's is that it is so minimal. I can then add something and watch how my body reacts (ie: I had some sunflower seeds the other day and got quite ill from them...so I know they are not a good choice for me).
I also have candida but I see no connection between that and the fruit. I agree with Kirk - it's the high acid diet that contributes to yeast overgrowth.
So my experience, is you have to play around and find what feels best for you. It is confusing - there are so many theories. But we all have such different metabolisms - there's not one diet for everyone.

[Sadii]

Hey, thanks to both of you, and amyone else who wants to put in their two cents worth, (or more). I think I'm doing all that I can to reduce acidity. No meds, take tons of probiotic, etc. Have done fasts, and cleanses.

I can sure tell if I eat sprouted grain, though, just like you can, Lil. Too bad, because, of course, I really like it. I bet buckwheat will get better tasting. Sure hope so!

Thanks again,
Kathy :)

[thunderdancer]

Hiya Sadii

All I can really say is I agree wholeheartedly with Lil:

**I think you have to go with what makes you feel good. Listen to your body.**

We ARE all so different. I've done SO much reading and research and surfing and talking and different people thrive on different ways of eating. I've tried GC's and Doug's too, both lead me where I am now which a darned site better than ever before.
We find our own way, that's the only way. If Doug's is the way for Fred - great! If Cousens' is the way for Betty - super! If a mixture is the way for me - woohoo!

Lots of love in finding your perfect way

[ConsciousCuisine]

[QUOTE=lil]
I also have candida but I see no connection between that and the fruit. I agree with Kirk - it's the high acid diet that contributes to yeast overgrowth.
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A highly acid system provides an environment where the yeast can thrive and proliferate;sugars feed the yeasts.