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I think green vegetables are the best food on the planet! But you won't get rich selling greens to the masses. They are plentiful, and they don't store or ship well. It is better to get your hands on a rare, "super" food item, talk it up as an essential ingredient to vitality and longevity, then sell them at a high price. This is pretty much what you get with David Wolfe. Raw cacoa is a prime example, and gogis, mangosteen, etc.
I don't want to criticize David Wolfe.....I think he is brilliant! And I will continue to buy products from him, because I am addicted to his olives!
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if we don't talk about eating animal products at RFT..after all we are a Vegan/Vegetarian Group....then why is it OK for us to ponder eating ANTS ?
They are after all living being, albeit an insect ! oweeeeeeee.....
Psalms 18:2 "The LORD is my rock, my fortress and my deliverer; my God is my rock, in whom I take refuge. He is my shield and the horn of my salvation, my stronghold."
CW : 130-131
GW : 125-126
current bodyfat is
18-19% in the AM
15-16% in the PM,
goal is to see this go down 3% (as they are not as accurate as they are consistant ! )
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I wonder if he was joking and people took him seriously? And I wonder what the context was. Maybe there was some weird issue he was talking about, which could be helped by ants. I seriously doubt he was telling people to go eat ants!!!
From recent talks he's even saying nuts are a slightly negative food that he's eating less of.
Sheryl
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then why is it OK for us to ponder eating ANTS ?
I don't think anyone is seriously pondering eating ants! Half the posts are humorous, because it is rather funny how quickly we jump to conclusions and how much we as humans like to judge what others do and say. Isn't it amazing?
You have to just laugh.
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 Originally Posted by rawbeliever
Framboise: Interesting. what did they taste like?
I would say the closest I could find a comparison to would be grilled peanuts of the highest quality.
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 Originally Posted by codajess
Vegans are vegans for ethical reasons. They wouldn't be vegan if they weren't. They'd be strict vegetarians. Read the links in my signature.
I agree with you entirely. A vegan avoids as much as possible all animal products including leather shoes for instance. There is no health reason for avoiding leather. (And this is just one example).
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Perhaps the best thing to do would be to email David directly and ask him. That way we are not speculating about it. It doesn't quite seem fair to him to be doing that.
- Alisha
formerly missionarymamato5
The Lord hath appeared of old unto me saying, I have loved thee with an everlasting love: therefore with lovingkindness have I drawn thee. Jer 31:3
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David Wolfe is not vegan as far as I know - his site does sell bee products. So ants wouldn't be that far off. Yes, my post was meant to be funny, but the shocking truth is I could actually see something like this happening.
I also got into the cacao thing for a while. That stuff has a bad aftertaste, kind of like mushrooms, which leaves a funny taste in your mouth afterward. I use either raw carob or organic cocoa powder now. It is more affordable, etc. I didn't get into the cacao for health reasons though, I just like chocolate and figured this would be a better quality than regular cocoa.
But you can read on his and Shazzie's site how eating cacao will make you live longer, etc. If that is true, one could go buy a dark chocolate bar at the store everyday which is more realistic to someone on a low budget.
We don't know if those who ate the cacao or cocoa actually ate it cooked or what. And not everyone who lives to be in their 100's are eating cocoa beans. Plus the fact that cacao actually makes some people jittery - Alissa for example has written about that here - she's had negative reactions to cacao.
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 Originally Posted by codajess
Vegans are vegans for ethical reasons. They wouldn't be vegan if they weren't. They'd be strict vegetarians. Read the links in my signature.
Ok, I guess I figured that any person who omits all animal products were vegan. I didn't know that any ethical meaning was directly linked to the word. So, not all people who don't eat animal products do it for ethical reasons. A lot of them do it because they want to be more healthy. That is what I was trying to say.
Carol Alt comes to mind. I read an interview about her and she said a lot of her diet consists of raw meat.
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 Originally Posted by codajess
Vegans are vegans for ethical reasons. They wouldn't be vegan if they weren't. They'd be strict vegetarians. Read the links in my signature.
LOL and I just reread my post and it said "Not all people who are raw ARE vegan OR do it for ethical reasons." So I guess I never even really said that vegans didn't do it for ethical reasons. Hehe sorry about the miscommunication. :)
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Sharon, I thought your post was absolutely hilarious! I forgot to mention that earlier. Especially the part about the ants being picked by 17 year old girls with small hands.
I understand what you meant though about seeing it happen. You wrote the post so well that if it ever does they could ask you to write up about it for them! haha!
- Alisha
formerly missionarymamato5
The Lord hath appeared of old unto me saying, I have loved thee with an everlasting love: therefore with lovingkindness have I drawn thee. Jer 31:3
my blog about my journey and my raw food life: http://eatrawtolive.blogspot.com/
our website: www.deschenesdanes.com
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Against eating ants,
I must take a stance.
That's not much worse,
Then ants in the pants!
EEWWWWW!! Count me OUT!
Cheers!
Green Life
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Speaking of ants...
http://www.rawfood.com/cgi-bin/order...e_Products&tc=
Bees generally forage for plant nectar, but they also can take the sweet secretions of aphids known as Honeydew. Honeydew nectar is produced from a small scale insect (Ultracoelostoma assimile) living in the bark of two of New Zealand's beech forests, mainly the black beech (black from the sooty mould growing on the surplus nectar covering the trunks and branches) and to a lesser extent, the red beech.
(emphasis mine)
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 Originally Posted by missionarymamato5
Sharon, I thought your post was absolutely hilarious! I forgot to mention that earlier. Especially the part about the ants being picked by 17 year old girls with small hands.
I understand what you meant though about seeing it happen. You wrote the post so well that if it ever does they could ask you to write up about it for them! haha!
Thanks, I think! If they did ask me to write for them, I think my conscience would catch up with me after while!
Weird about the above posted aphid thing, though. I found this just a while ago, after this discussion was already in place.
On second thought, people have told me I am eating bee vomit, so maybe it's not that far off??
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I respect vegans, but I don't consider myself to be one. I enjoy certain animal luxuries. But I am an 100% RAW HAPPY CHICK and don't eat any animal products other then honey. Much love to all the vegans out there. I admire your deep love for the animal kingdom. I love them very much too, but have my own views and ethics on the subject
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