Stop saying that you need more protein.

[Spectatrix]

Plants and vegetables are already in amino acid form.

k

Incorrect. The amino acids in plants are still bound up in proteins and have to be broken down by the body.

[LightLover]

My feeling says you are right.
But I also somtetimes read the opposite

Can someone help us with this, we need to inform correctly

[rawbeliever]

I've been called to the nurse and the guidance office several times. I've had to fill out an eating disorder survey, listen to the nurse's talk of soy products and the joys of dairy, and she even asked me to attend a "Survivor" seminar about nutrition (it was targeted at anorexics and bulimics). I know my friends are worried, but they're so conditioned that they refuse to hear my defense.

Whoah, Evie, that's really scary. Consider yourself a dangerous revolutionary. You've got 'em on the run. Have you ever read "The China Study?" It was written by a tenured professor at Cornell, and one of the things he talks about is how the committee of scientists who put together the food pyramid were sued by a group called Physicians for Responsible Medicine because six of the eleven scientists (including the chair) all had financial ties to the dairy & meat industries. There are required by law to disclose this kind of information, but refused to do so. The Physicians won their case.

[GreenPrince]

This may be of value for the eternal protein debate.

About 20% of our daily proteins we get from dead intestine bacteria!

We have 2-3 lbs of beneficial bacteria living in our intestine. There are many billions of them and several houndred different types.
Our knowledge about them is almost zero.

These bacteria live in symbios and harmony with us. We feed them with our food, and they help us to brake the food down,
produce beneficial substanses, rebuilt amino acids and new proteins, and finally, when they die, they function as a protein buffer
for essential amino acids. We don't need all types of amino acids every day.

We choice the bacteria types we invite to the party, because all ”tribes” are specialized on different kinds of food.
Raw vegan food creates other dominating bacteria than SAD. Healthy bacteria – healthy people.

I like to think, that it's not impossible that ”our bacteria” produces vital substances unknown to science.
Or known substances in higher amounts, like B-12.

My bacteria are raw vegan foodists ;) How about yours?

[lissomllama]

To those who were wondering: It sounded to me that rawtruth was saying that we get our protein from the same sources as gorillas and cows, not that we are gorillas or cows. Her exact words were "The same place as those big gorillas" etc. However, I do agree with what firefaery wrote.

In regards to the other argument on this thread. I don't believe that many people on this site are being rude or off putting to the new people, I think that many of us are just a little tired of repeating the same thing over and over because not many people take advantage of the search function. This is no crime of course, and we still answer the questions honestly but sometimes we might have a hint of shortness. We're only human. Most of us here love to help the new peoples but it does take a little work on others' behalf as well. There are alot of people who come here and automatically ask questions that have been answered in threads right below that one. This all comes from curiosity and thirst for knowlege which is great but alot of us have crafted wonderful posts that eloquently answer these questions and when the same questions pop up a day later, we want to help, but we want them to read the last post that really answered the question well instead of trying to rephrase it the same each time. Each time that happens, the answers get lazier and less well formed and people lose patience. This is a natural part of being human. We can't all be teachers 100% of the time. Personally, I try to use the search function for everything before I ask questions. By doing this, I usually get a quick answer and find other posts that interest me that I never thought of. It also allows me to resurrect old posts and continue them. Of course, if the search gives me no results I can use or doesn't answer my question fully, I don't hesitate to ask. I'm not saying that everyone should do this, or else we wouldn't have many new threads, but it certainly helps with the patience issue. So, to the newbies, please don't take it personally when we sound a little short. We're mostly just tired of hearing it all from the cooked SAD people and it spills over in here. Keep asking questions, but search as well. Read read read.

A quick note on protein: I believe that dark leafy greens are one of the best sources of amino acids.

[dreamrawalwz]

To those who were wondering: It sounded to me that rawtruth was saying that we get our protein from the same sources as gorillas and cows, not that we are gorillas or cows. Her exact words were "The same place as those big gorillas" etc. However, I do agree with what firefaery wrote.

In regards to the other argument on this thread. I don't believe that many people on this site are being rude or off putting to the new people, I think that many of us are just a little tired of repeating the same thing over and over because not many people take advantage of the search function. This is no crime of course, and we still answer the questions honestly but sometimes we might have a hint of shortness. We're only human. Most of us here love to help the new peoples but it does take a little work on others' behalf as well. There are alot of people who come here and automatically ask questions that have been answered in threads right below that one. This all comes from curiosity and thirst for knowlege which is great but alot of us have crafted wonderful posts that eloquently answer these questions and when the same questions pop up a day later, we want to help, but we want them to read the last post that really answered the question well instead of trying to rephrase it the same each time. Each time that happens, the answers get lazier and less well formed and people lose patience. This is a natural part of being human. We can't all be teachers 100% of the time. Personally, I try to use the search function for everything before I ask questions. By doing this, I usually get a quick answer and find other posts that interest me that I never thought of. It also allows me to resurrect old posts and continue them. Of course, if the search gives me no results I can use or doesn't answer my question fully, I don't hesitate to ask. I'm not saying that everyone should do this, or else we wouldn't have many new threads, but it certainly helps with the patience issue. So, to the newbies, please don't take it personally when we sound a little short. We're mostly just tired of hearing it all from the cooked SAD people and it spills over in here. Keep asking questions, but search as well. Read read read.

A quick note on protein: I believe that dark leafy greens are one of the best sources of amino acids.

I agree with you completely. You also must remember that online you don't hear the other persons tone so you can be quick to judge, usually on the defense.

[raintree]

I'm not sure if anyone has posted this yet, but this is a good artical on protein by Victoria Boutenko: http://www.rawfamily.com/proteinsingreens2006.pdf

Maybe we could have a few protein sticky threads, one of them being just for quick answers to the "where do you get your protein from?" question

[raintree]

PS. I think the title of this post rocks

[LightLover]

To those who were wondering: It sounded to me that rawtruth was saying that we get our protein from the same sources as gorillas and cows, not that we are gorillas or cows. Her exact words were "The same place as those big gorillas" etc. However, I do agree with what firefaery wrote.

In regards to the other argument on this thread. I don't believe that many people on this site are being rude or off putting to the new people, I think that many of us are just a little tired of repeating the same thing over and over because not many people take advantage of the search function. This is no crime of course, and we still answer the questions honestly but sometimes we might have a hint of shortness. We're only human. Most of us here love to help the new peoples but it does take a little work on others' behalf as well. There are alot of people who come here and automatically ask questions that have been answered in threads right below that one. This all comes from curiosity and thirst for knowlege which is great but alot of us have crafted wonderful posts that eloquently answer these questions and when the same questions pop up a day later, we want to help, but we want them to read the last post that really answered the question well instead of trying to rephrase it the same each time. Each time that happens, the answers get lazier and less well formed and people lose patience. This is a natural part of being human. We can't all be teachers 100% of the time. Personally, I try to use the search function for everything before I ask questions. By doing this, I usually get a quick answer and find other posts that interest me that I never thought of. It also allows me to resurrect old posts and continue them. Of course, if the search gives me no results I can use or doesn't answer my question fully, I don't hesitate to ask. I'm not saying that everyone should do this, or else we wouldn't have many new threads, but it certainly helps with the patience issue. So, to the newbies, please don't take it personally when we sound a little short. We're mostly just tired of hearing it all from the cooked SAD people and it spills over in here. Keep asking questions, but search as well. Read read read.

A quick note on protein: I believe that dark leafy greens are one of the best sources of amino acids.

Maybe it is an idea whenever new members are filling in their username & password for the first time, to ask them kindly to use the searchfunction before asking/starting a new thread?

[Lay-Lay]

I was at a business meeting this morning which served breakfast. They had a bowl full of fresh fruit, so I was very happy as you can imagine. I skipped over all the cooked stuff and headed right for the fruit. Anyways, I got back to my table and began eating my fruit and a woman proceeds to tell me that I needed to go back to the bar and get me some protein. I just smiled and said oh I get my protein and plenty of it, but I don't eat eggs or meat. She just just said ok and that was that.

[Lay-Lay]

Upon reading the threads that followed after the OP, I think there may be a misunderstanding as to WHOM those who've posted are referring to. I don't "think" (and I could be mistaken, but it's not how I read it) that this is at all about newbies coming on and asking "the protein question" but rather people in our everyday lives...SAD eaters who are always trying to argue with us that eating this way cannot and will not provide adequate protein for us.

I know the OP was mentioning seeing people say they are including things to get protein, but even the orignal post, IMHO, wasn't putting newbies down, but rather giving them hope that they don't have to be overly concerned with making sure they get "enough" (translated, the amount the RDA recommends) protein.

I also saw a post where it was said (paraphrasing), "this question gets asked all the time...it's getting old"...when I read that post in it's entirety, I read it in context with the posts that preceeded it and gathered that they were not making reference to newbies who come here and ask that question, but rather people we come in contact with in our daily lives when they find out the way in which we eat.

That's just my take on it...I didn't feel it was about newbies.

yeah, I thought she were talking about family, friends, coworkers too.