Blessings to you, HG :)Quote:
Originally Posted by HolyGuacamole
I hope this will be a service to many.
Blessings to you, HG :)Quote:
Originally Posted by HolyGuacamole
I hope this will be a service to many.
EPPP - Thank you sooo much for sharing your what you did.Quote:
Originally Posted by eachpeachpearplum
I am a HUGE fan of exploring inexpensive ways to these things.. especially for the sake of folks of modest means. Blending wheatgrass is a viable alternative to expensive juicers, or relatively inexpensive manual juicers (which still run around $60 for anything well-constructed, unless you go used).
Also, I am not one to major on minors as far as spending 500% more for a 5% better juice. The main burden of this thread is twofold:
1) To make the process of deciding easier for others.
2) To determine which juicers are the most durable, in spite of some misleading motor specs and getting dazzled by gadgetry. In a word - what are basically the best investments in juicers, in terms of substance.. in hardware quality?
This leads to a very important question. When you say "juicing by blending", are you talking about blending it, then basically just drinking it?
I didn't see anything in what you shared about separating the juice from the pulp.
If you are referring simply to blended drinks, these would be smoothies.
In fairness to you, these might, in the looser sense of "juice", be thought of as pulpy juice. That's okay, and I LOVVVVVE smoothies. :p
But the terms must be distinguished for a very major reason, due to application.
Technically speaking, "juice" is what is extracted from the pulp.
This is similar (tho not the same) as broth derived from a foodstuff, or tea from an herb.
One reason this is so important is because of faster absorption into the bloodstream, without the hindrance or digestive burden of dealing with pulp. This has therapeutic advantage, as well as the simple matter of personal taste.
But, more importantly, in the ancient practice of fasting, the difference is far more manifest. By nature and general definition, fasting means the cessation of all solid food, i.e. anything with pulp in it. Once this happens, the peristaltic motion of the large intestine stops. After 3 days or so, "hunger" pangs stop (natural stomach contractions), and the body enjoys a nice break. During this time, the energies are expended elsewhere, to remove toxins, expedite cellular repair, and so forth.
Natural diet accomplishes cleansing too. There will never be a conflict between these two approaches because they are really one in purpose and direction. The difference is that fasting (done responsibly) accomplishes this quicker. It is also a great tool in emergency situations when things must happen fast. Fasting is not a substitute for natural diet, but rather a wonderful compliment to it.
Some have a strong aversion to fasting while others naturally gravitate to it. All is okay here. I would only point out that fasting becomes more critical as you get older, as various toxins, pollutants & debris have had more time to accumulate in the vital organs and tissues. (Most of us were raised on a s.a.d. diet).
Blessings,
brother bear
The Juicers Most Mentioned When You Do A Forum Search
Main Players:
500+ - Champion
377 - Omega
305 - Green Star
185 - Breville
114 - Samson
87 - Norwalk
59 - Jack La Lane
37 - Solo Star
This is a very rough result. To minimize confusion/dilution of count (i.e. Green Star vs. green beans) I kept this search limited to the "Juicing, Sprouting, and Organic Gardening" forum.
Amazing!
What a lot of work, thanks, Brother Bear
The Top Light-Heavyweight Household Juicer (Single Auger)
http://www.heroicworld.com/images/ar...s/image022.gif - "Egads!"
HERCULES: Weighing in at 19 lbs, with a 1/4 HP motor.
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Hercules - Lion of Olympus - Son of Great Zeus!
Though lighter, Herc has rough parity with Thor and The Thing in hand to hand combat.
Star Solo II is made by Tribest - Maker also of Green Star.
http://www.greenstarjuicers.org/solo...ostar2_big.JPG
http://www.solostarjuicers.com/imgs/Animain(Bottom).gif
List Price: $299
Market: $239 up
Craigslist: $175 (Used)
Note: The spec, marketed as - "1/4 (4 hp equivalent with gear reduction)"..
The motor itself is 1/4 HP. The 4 hp number comes as a result of mechanical advantage, accomplished by a lower gear. Though a potentially misleading spec, 1/4 hp is still pretty serious bludgeoning power!
I have never seen one of these, thanks!
HA ha ha!Quote:
Originally Posted by EternityRider
Great additional info in post #17! :rolleyes:
I cannot believe I left this out! I was so excited by your thread it slipped my mind! :p
So what I do to make juice in a blender is:
1. fill container with veg plus about a 1/4c. water if needed. Blend minimal time but thoroughly. You want an apple sauce consistancy.
2. Strain out pulp with mesh bag over glas bowl - preferably with pouring lip. Drink up or store. Yum!
Now sometime I actually like to go one step further - not for fasting obviously - I put the juice back into the blending jug add more greens and blend again. Do not strain. Drink up!
Thanks a bunch for pointing out my omission! :cool:
BTW: I no longer use my $400 Breville. It's still a great machine and easy to clean but the juice just tasts so much better this way - to me!
EPPP
Well, blending and straining is indeed an option! I won't put grass in my Champion because it bogs. It works, but I don't want to overdo it. Blending is an excellent option here! Or possibly chopping up the grass in small segments before going in Juicer. This is where units like the Green Star (upper model) really shine.Quote:
Originally Posted by eachpeachpearplum
So then the natural question arises..
Why don't we all just use blenders?
This has been debated before.
While not crazy about debates, here's some possible answers:
1) Quantity and Speed - Juicing goes a lot faster in an actual juicer for those who wish to make large quantities. Plus, no need to strain, generally speaking.
2) By straining, you won't get ALL the juice out of the pulp. A minor consideration, to be sure. The best juicers will extract more from the pulp.
3) Some do not want their juices diluted. Another minor consideration, but it still matters to some.
4) The need for a New Toy, lol - the biggest, baddest mega-beast juicer on the block. :rolleyes:
(Maybe it's a guy thing, lol).
I'm sure there are other reasons.. lol.
P.S. - I know some Fasting Bandits who would LOVE to get their paws on your Breville! LOL.
The Next Light-Heavyweight Household Juicer
(Dual Stage Single Auger)
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SheHulk: Weighing in at 16 lbs, with a ** 1/3 ** HP motor!
The Omega, cute & powerful, is decidedly female.
SheHulk, affectionately known as "Shulk" by her friends, is the blood cousin of the Hulk. Like Hulk, she has a 1/3 hp motor. Her gamma-spawned strength is a serious force to be reckoned with. Her meddle is right up there with Thor, Hercules and The Thing.
The Omega 8003
http://www.natural-living.com/omega8003.gif
List Price: $349
Market: $229 up
Ebay: $150 (Used)
More Superheros coming ...
The Top Welterweight Contender
(Single Auger)
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The SUBMARINER: Weighing in at 15 lbs, with a 1/3 HP motor
Prince Namor - Ruler of Atlantis - Once was part of The Avengers with Hercules.
This juicer is not nearly as well known as the others mentioned.
(A bit underwater in marketing?) :D
But this powerhouse has much bang for the buck.
The L’EQUIP Model 509 Visor
http://selectingjuicers.com/library/lequip509.jpg http://www.discountjuicers.com/images/visorclosed.jpg
List Price: $269
Market: $219 up
The Next Welterweight Contender
(Single Auger)
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SAMSON: Weighing in at 14.6 lbs, with a 1/3 HP motor!
No slouch in the power cirles, this hulk was known to tear off giant city gates and walk off with them 40 miles to the top of a hill 2,800 feet above sea level!
http://www.discountjuicers.com/image...nblack9001.jpg http://www.fernsnutrition.com/samsonptscbl.jpg
List Price: $399
Market: $219 up
Craigslist: $125 (Used)
CENTRIFUGALS
The Absolute Top Contender (Centrifugal)
IRON MAN: Weighing in at 21 lbs! - 1/4 hp motor
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Genius Tony Stark outdid himself this time with..
The Breville Juice Fountain Elite 800JEXL
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This formidable piece of metallic monstrosity is also very fast!
Some marketing descriptions:
"The world's fastest juice extractor juices an 8oz. glass of apple juice in 5 seconds!"
"This model has an Italian made electronic motor that increases power under yield to maintain filter revolutions. It has two speeds for soft and hard fruits and a three inch feed tube which minimizes preparation and feeding time. Beautifully designed stainless die cast steel housing and motor body makes it a work of art on the countertop."
List Price: $399
Market: $275 up
Ebay: $129 (Used)
Thanks for the great info.
Thanks for the feedback. It gets lonely hangin with all these juicers, lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lady Green Jeans
I have a couple more quality centrifugals to cover, then some info on citrus juicers. We LOVE citrus juicers around here. Got 4 of them. :rolleyes: :p
CENTRIFUGALS
The Next Contender (Centrifugal)
SpiderMan: Weighing in at 15 lbs - 1/3 hp motor
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One of the strongest mortals on earth, the movies never did him justice.
Vastly stronger than Iron Man, even.. cuz Iron Man's great power is in his armor, not his own body.
The Green Power Juicer - Samson KPE-1304
http://www.samsonjuicers.com/images/kpe-1301.gif http://www.samsonjuicers.com/images/twin-gear.jpg
List Price: $499
Market: $399