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  1. ReneeH's Avatar
    'Atta girl!!!! Get yo groove BACK!!!!
  2. MysticTree's Avatar
    sounds wonderfully positive. Men are not threatening in the main and the nasty ones are more likely to choose someone less strong and secure with herself so boosting your confidence and self esteem whilst boosting your defence skills sounds like a brilliant way forward.
  3. ShelShel's Avatar
    Ok. My thoughts.
    I talked everything over with my hubby. He said he totally understands where I'm coming from, but that I shouldn't give up on raw.

    He said, "if that is the issue, you need some self defense courses like we got the girls.".

    We didn't want our girls to be afraid like I am and so we got them tae kwon do lessons. They are so much better for having the knowledge and skills.

    I am going to take some tae kwon do lessons. Learn some self defense. I'm going to get some tools to make my raw food LIFESTYLE a success. My hubby said, "you are raw all week long without much trouble. Plan on sticking with it and allow yourself one cooked meal once in a while guilt free.". His suggestion was to really stick with it without any breaks for a good long stretch. Let it become the normal again.

    He and my oldest child are really encouraging me, just like you all are. :) thank you everyone. I really appreciate it.

    And Renee I would love to take a class with you. I'm not sure my old computer can handle a live something, but I would like a new computer sometime this year and hopefully I can join in on several classes at that time.

    Ok. I'm off to shop for my dehydrator, vitamix and food processor. Not sure what I am getting first, but something is coming this week.

    (I say all this drinking down my last kombucha in the house and smiling. I need to go get more. )
    (((hugs))) y'all! More raw freedoms to come. (I'm so encouraged.)
  4. ReneeH's Avatar
    Yea!!! It's an interchange of encouragement for sure! I get SO much out of them too! :)
  5. Bananna's Avatar
    Renee...your class idea is lovely! I might look into it too! :)
  6. Bananna's Avatar
    Oh Shelshel!! ...I'm sorry that happened to your family member and that it has had such a fall out. I would definately be concerned about your boss in your situation also...that makes perfect sense.

    As a social worker, and someone that got counselling for some PTSD and anxiety problems I can tell you that it is very treatable...it is statistically one of the most responsive things to psychotherapy!! There IS freedom from this, but it IS work. It took me about a year of really spaced out counselling appointments, but man...was it ever worth it!!!

    Being paged...so will talk later. Good luck with your thinking things through. We are both being pretty productive on that end these days...getting real. :)
  7. ShelShel's Avatar
    Thank you for all the encouragement Renee. I have really appreciated it. :)
  8. ReneeH's Avatar
    That's why I think a class would be good for you! It'll give you motivation and ignite your raw creativity. Why don't you search out an Alissa Cohen Level 1 teacher in your area. It's about SO much more than just food. Really, it is.

    I'm really glad your still here! keep writing your thoughts in your blog. It's great free therapy!!!

    ((((HUGSSSSS))))
  9. ReneeH's Avatar
    Actually the class is more for motivation. Making raw food isn't difficult for most people. The Blender and food processor do all of the work. Just like, for me, taking Alissa's class wasn't about learning how to make the food...I've been uncooking since 2007. It was a tremendous motivating factor that propelled me forward. That's what I'd like to give to ShelShel. The class is free, so why not.
  10. ShelShel's Avatar
    I just love you all. I worked today, then went grocery shopping. I've been too busy to write, but later I will! I promise. (((( hugs))))). Lots and lots and lots of (((hugs)))
  11. Bananna's Avatar
    Shelshel is an amazing raw uncooker! ...not sure if you all know that or not, lol.

    I prefer to call the cheat meal, a treat meal...because if it's incorporated into your plan, then you aren't cheating and you totally remove the guilt, the concept of 'moving backward', the sense of less than or disappointment, that you can somehow be doing better.

    I think they are important because they remove resistance...instead you are rolling with the resistance...like that martial art, lol. Then it has less power. In my Dad's case...the 100% strict thing, lasted a good long time, because he was afraid for his life, but it did not have Lifetime written on it. He had to find something he could live with but still get the results he wanted. He's tweaked and modified his program over the years, but he's always been dedicated and observant as to what is working and what isn't. His treat meal, he may not have every week, or even every month, but there are points in his life where he really appreciates them on a regular basis...and other points where he just has enough produce and not enough time or interest to bother. But if he wants a cheat meal on the weekend, he has no guilt about doing so because he eats so spectacular the rest of the time.

    He keeps his health his area of focus...because he is afraid of dying, he keeps himself on track just fine. I dunno...it works. He is proof to me that it can work perfectly fine. ...and when you think about it, I can definately think of raw meals that are worse concoctions than the green curry thai food I would eat for a treat, for ones health. just saying!
  12. MysticTree's Avatar
    I like the stair analogy. It really makes people rethink their concept of failure and success. Self-esteem is key in this whole business.
  13. ReneeH's Avatar
    ShelShel.....I'm still waiting to see if you'd like to do a class!!!!! Come on...you KNOW you want to!!!!! Don't make me HUNT you down!!!!

    I don't necessarily agree with a cheat meal/day. Why plan to sabotage your success? When my Suchi run happens (which is not every week or even every month...), I accept the moment and keep moving forward. Striving to be completely raw means not planning to eat cook food.

    If you get to the middle of the stairs and step down a step, you don't go back to the bottom step, you just take another step up and keep on going. If you find yourself taking another step down again, just make sure the next step is up. The point is, you keep going. Eventually there will be less and less steps back and more steps up. Success is determined by you not giving up. You will see the results you want, but Rome wasn't built in a day. Be kind to yourself as you keep stepping up. ShelShel, accept the class! It'll help you to take a giant leap up!!! :)
  14. MysticTree's Avatar
    I think raw cheese cake is a very good option. I simply don't think you can tell that it is raw rather than baked. Kale chips if you have a dehydrator but be prepared to discover an enormous addiction ;) Otherwise I think it is very difficult to really understand my eating. Today I have eaten off-plan. It was ok but I believe I would have enjoyed a raw meal just as much so why did I not choose raw? I don't actually know. It may be partly hormonal. At these times I keenly feel the lack of a traditional kitchen with electrical appliances.
  15. Bananna's Avatar
    Maybe 3 cheat meals...one breakfast, one lunch and one supper? ...ok I will shut up now and let you think, lol.
  16. Bananna's Avatar
    Maybe we could make a pact to try some version of this for 30 days as an experiment??
    As I said somewhere else I am starting a 30 day raw thing on Monday...so I guess I am kind of already committed.
  17. Bananna's Avatar
    Very cute Renee...awesomely supportive!!

    I thiiink...what do I think?

    What I am reading here is that some of you are eating very successfully all raw except for some special occassions. I think treating ourselves can always get a little carried away at times, I think that's normal. My Dad for example, has a Very strict eating regimen...not raw or vegan, but in ways More strict...no salt, no soys sauce, no ketchup, sugar, mayonnaise, butter, etc. Low fat and low sodium. Calorie restricted, etc. He went from the doctor telling him his heart disease was so bad he might have a heart attack 'any day now', to lean and healthy as one could ever hope to be. At first he was super strict. ..but after a few years he realized that having a treat now and then was ok. At first it was very rarely, then once a month, then once a week....and then multiple times per week. He started feeling like crap, slowly but surely. He Missed his healthy foods and eating at home and firmly put a stop to it. Now...some 3 decades in, he has mastered the whole thing. He is strictly healthy, his 'usual routine', but has no more than one cheat meal a week. That's IT. The guy is as healthy and trim as you could possibly be.

    I guess in talking this out, I'm realizing that there is Some room for treating yourself and there is a need for doing self-checks, and tweaking what's going to work for you and eventually finding what is going to work long term for you through some trial and error.

    Sheshel, you mentioned that you can eat all raw for 3 days and lose 5 pounds and eat 1 cooked meal and gain half a pound. So let's say you do what my Dad does and have one meal a week where you just enjoy whatever cooked food you're craving/wanting most...let's say you would really celebrate that meal and that experience and appreciate it for what it was...and the rest of the week you stick to your guns? You would still...by your math, have lost plenty of weight! ...even if you had two cheat meals.

    To me the question is more and more becoming, yes, like you said, what can we maintain forever. ...to me this has to include a high raw regimen because it will make your forever much longer than if you don't, lol. But also, like you, I do need to be able to enjoy treat meals.

    Because I like to push the envelope, I am going to have two cheat meals instead of my Dad's one. One supper and one lunch...because I do like to go out for lunch too!

    Anyways...think it over and no matter what PLEASE don't leave!!! I have your other ankle. :)
  18. ReneeH's Avatar
    HaHaHAHA!!!!! Love it!!!!! Yea!!!! You're still here!!!! You're gonna be ok! Hang in there!!!! I'm gonna set up another Learn it Live class...just for YOU!!!! Pick what you'd like to make: Pizza, Lasagne, Zucchini Pasta, a dessert... We can make it together...LIVE!!!! Are you familiar with Learn it Live? Here's my last class: http://www.learnitlive.com/class/342...e-Raw-Brownies. That will give you an idea what class is like. I'm excited!!!!!! Can't WAIT to see what you're gonna choose!!!!!
  19. ShelShel's Avatar
    Renee you make me laugh. I had to read your post out loud to my husband. No. I do not live in Texas. But I have been there! :). Lol

    You have me doubting my resolve to just give up. hope you are happy. Ankle grabber!!!

    Thank you. :)
  20. ReneeH's Avatar
    Oh no....you are SO NOT leaving! . Im gonna hold on to your ankle, and I'm not letting you go! So THERE! :)

    Where are you...are you in Texas? I need to do a class with you! If you're not here, we can do one through Learn It Live!!! It'll be a BLAST!!! You just need someone to hold your hand for a while, that's all! You totally CAN'T leave here! You'll keep coming back cuz you're hooked on raw...(rather you realize it or not!!!!). So, I'm NOT gonna let you reduce yourself to being a lurker! Nope, not gonna do it!!!! You're MINE baby!!!
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