View Full Version : Toddler is vomiting and has diarea and a liitle fever- should we go to doctor?
02-14-2006, 10:25 AM
My 2.5 year old has those things already second day - from Sunday night. So it is already more than 24 hour stomach flu. It happened after he ate some cooked food(eggs with vegetables)in the farmers market with my husband.
I am wondering, since he throws up even my milk and water, when should I start worrying if he has dehydratation. Even at night he trows up once or twice, he does nurse at night.
He is not playing much, but he is not completely limp, he complains and goes to see,what Daddy does.
I do not want to expose him to additional stress of seeing doctor, if it is worthless. What do you think?
02-14-2006, 10:30 AM
Get some liquid acidolpholus (sp) and unfiltered apple juice. Put about a tsp. of the acidolphilis into about a cup of apple juice and let him drink this. If what he has continues, do it again.
This is NOT a stomach "flu". It is detox.
02-14-2006, 10:58 AM
It could be food poinsoning from the eggs so I guess in a way it IS detox, but please keep an eye on him.
02-14-2006, 11:05 AM
When the body is eliminating what is not good for it, it's called detoxification whether it's poison in eggs, drugs, or cooked foods.
02-14-2006, 11:07 AM
Well, he never was vomiting before in his life, so I feel guilty now, that after being close to 3 months raw, since he eats half cooked(my husband is not raw), my milk is not protecting him from all the stuff, because I do not eat the things he eats. I would love him to eat 100 percent raw, but with my husband not raw, it won't work.
02-14-2006, 11:28 AM
I just picked up a tape titled Children and the Hallelujah Diet by Dr. Joel Robbins (hacres.com) at a thrift store and listened two days ago....so this is fresh! He reccommended carrot or apple juice in a bulb syringe (like the one's the hospitals give you from birth for suctioning) rectally which although not fun can prevent serious dehydration. Be gentle and patient.Have your child lay on his/her side. Use a lubricant for insertion. Slowly squeeze bulb a little at a time so you don't create too much discomfort ( you don't want to stimulate the bowels to move necessarily). Make sure you have towels under your child should the bowels move! Continue with this therapy until you see improvement (vomiting stops!) I will pray for you!
02-14-2006, 11:52 AM
I know that this is a raw foods diet. But sometimes I think it's ok to go off, in certain circumstances. In my opinion, gently cooked foods and organic dairy are still better than the chemical drugs the allopath will give you.
Last week, my granddaughter had the same symptoms.
The thing that's important in a child is that they not become dehydrated.
What I did for my granddaughter, and what I've done for all my children, is this, to stop diahhrea in its tracks. My kids call it "diahhrea medicine" and it works every time.
Mix 1/2 cup organic applesauce and 1/2 cup organic good acidophilus yogurt. Here in Portland, we have Nancy's Yogurt. Add 1 teaspoon of cinnamon. Mix it up. Get it down the child a teaspoon at a time.
The pectin in the applesauce will firm up the stool. The acidophilus will put good bacteria in the gut, which will fight the bad bacteria. The cinnamon sooths and "tans" the gut so it stops pushing water into the stool. It just works.
Last week, my GD had runny diahhrea in the morning when I arrived. I started her on this and by 4 pm she had a formed stool in her diaper.
I gave her no other food, just water when she asked for it.
That's my advice. It has never failed.
Once they have a firm stool, you can begin to add simple raw foods again, but slowly.
02-14-2006, 12:59 PM
Yes, I agree with RC, there are certain times when for the health of your small child you may have to go off raw.
My children are not 100% raw and there are times that I have decided to give them things that don't go hand in hand with the raw lifestyle.
But, I weigh my options and do the best for my family. You need to do the same. :) IMHO.
Also, if you take your child into the doctor they won't do anything. I've talked to 3 people that took their child in and nothing that the dr. could do.
They say it's a bacterial thing and it needs to come out.
Now, if they are dehydtrated, that is another story.
If your child is producing tears and urinating normally, then there is nothing the dr. will do.
I went in, had no insurance and spent $75 for the dr to tell me this.
I'm going to PM you as well with some other things I did that helped BOTH of my children get back to normal quicker!
Good luck and hang in there, it's tough when our little ones are sick.
02-14-2006, 01:05 PM
Ditto all above. My kids (18mo & 5yrs) had this "elimination" flu last month. Lasted 3-5 days expelling at both ends :( with 101-103 temp.
My main thing was to keep them hydrated so i fed them constantly on watered down green smoothies. I also made popcicles out of it for them to suck on which worked when they wouldnt take a drink.
Also, try a tablespoon at a time throughout the day. Again, this works well when the child does not want to have a whole drink. The syringe idea is good for too.
All the best, trust your instincts, kids are tough, yours WILL get through this! :o
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