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SamuelWilson
02-04-2006, 09:56 PM
Hello fellow raw foodist, I would like to take this time to explain pepper hotness (heat level).

First, to know where peppers get their heat, you need to look within the plant’s tissue and its chemical structure.

Bitter alkaloid compounds called capsaicinoids, which include capsaicin (pronounced cap-SAY-sin), are produced in the cells near the membranes (ribs) and some cells of the outside walls of the peppers.

Capsaicin is sometimes called "capsicum" and you may have read on the forum where I refer to compounds within chiles that makes them hot is capsicum. However, capsicum is actually part of the scientific name of chile peppers.

The presence of the compound is dependent on a single gene. If that gene is lacking, as it is in red bell peppers, there is no heat. This is why a red bell pepper is no more hotter than a green bell pepper. Unlike peppes which contain the gene, like habaneros for example. A habanero will get hotter as the colors change from green to orange to red for example.

Despite what people may think, the seeds of chile peppers do not produce the compounds, but because of their close proximity to the ribs, where concentrations of alkaloids are the highest, the seeds absorb the capsaicin. Remove the interior membranes along with the seeds, and the heat of the peppers goes down considerably.

Just to give you an idea as to what percentage of heat is in the seeds and membrane, here is an example of a recipe that I made that turned out too hot.

I made Avocado Chutney, however, I decided to replace the red bell peppers with the equivalent amount of red fresno chile peppers, seeds, membrane an all. As I have stated in previous threads, red fresno chile peppers are not hot as long as you remove the membrane and seeds. I under estimated the power of those seeds and membranes. My Avocado Chutney was too hot to eat, the capsaicin was so prominent that you couldn't enjoy the chutney without your mouth burning and the tips of your fingers burning from the preparation.

I hope this information helps everyone to have a better understanding of hot chile peppers.

Raw Jewelrylady
02-04-2006, 10:05 PM
Samuel, Once again, thanks for educating us on this subject. maybe we should start the :

"Samueal Wilson's ..some like it Hot Pepper Club??" :cool:
Lana

BTW. I finally experienced my first time of "finger-burning" due to pepper exposure. It was at dinner last night & I thought I was going nuts, but then realized what was happening... :eek:

SamuelWilson
02-04-2006, 10:11 PM
Yeah, until it personally happens to you, you will have no idea.

About a month ago, I was cutting on some chile peppers and the back of my hand started burning. It felt like someone was holding a lighter to the back of my hand. I washed it off under the sink, but it just kept burning. It took me a while to realize it was the chile peppers.

Oh, and then the other night, I was sitting at the computer and went to scratch my eyes. Oh, it burned really bad. I just kept that one eye closed, because every time I opened and air could get to it, the burning would start back up.

It takes getting burned a few times to learn some respect.

karenisraw
02-04-2006, 10:23 PM
SamuelWilson,

Thank you for that very educational bit that you posted. You learn somthing new everyday.

k
:D :)

Raw Jewelrylady
02-04-2006, 10:23 PM
I sat at the table & my fingers just started to burn. I thought, now what...but then figured it out before spreading to my eyes. I wash my hands a ton-(Kind of a "germaphobe") but still had the "fire." :eek:

Respect the peppers...good idea.

Lana

Doe
02-04-2006, 10:27 PM
Once one is burned, what can be done to relieve the pain? Just live till it heals?

Teri S

Raw Jewelrylady
02-04-2006, 10:30 PM
Doe, there is some info I read in this thread, plus some good recipes...
Lana
http://www.rawfoodtalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=6836&page=2&pp=25

SamuelWilson
02-04-2006, 10:43 PM
Teri, I know a few remedies that I have learned over the years. However, I have never had one work. The best thing to do is wash the effected area with soap and water and then dry the area well.

They say that peanut oil will help, but I sincerely doubt that. The compound that creates the heat is an oil, but the theory of diluting it with a lesser oil doesn't sit well with me. Sometimes, just simply letting some time pass is the best remedy.

I will say this, ice water will dull the pain, I have submerged my hand in ice water. However, as soon as you remove your hand from the ice water, the pain starts back up again and now it is spread. I would me more than happy to hear any remedies, but I will be more than skeptical.

Raw Jewelrylady
02-04-2006, 10:53 PM
Hi Doe & everyone, I tried to put up a link, but it wasn't workinh so hit the "banana" & look at the jalepena poppers thread from a while ago. There was quite a long discussion about remedies. sorry my link did not work, my computer is acting on it's own tonite...Scary... :eek:
Lana