View Full Version : Candida and Coconut oil
Sillybloss
01-21-2006, 04:58 PM
Hi all! I've been reading the posts that relate to the above as well as unidentified rashes (as was posted earlier). I started balancing my food PH intake about 2 years ago to help (among other things) eczema - I had it extremely bad. The diet (with supplements) worked wonders, but over time I dropped the supplements. Next, I became 100% raw (7 months ago). In November, I did a yeast cleanse, then in December a colon cleanse. I would think I'm pretty clean. Well, the last 2 1/2 weeks I've had MAJOR trouble with my eczema....and it's spreading - not getting better like it's just detox. My eyes were swollen shut this morning because it's all over my eyelids. I've read about using Virgin Coconut oil, but on a search here, people noted that they broke out in a rash AFTER they took the oil (they were OK before). So, I'm afraid to take it, lest it makes me WORSE!
Any thoughts or ideas?
P.S. - I've been really CRAVING olives lately.....could it be the fat? That's why I'm afraid to do the oil!
Angelina
01-21-2006, 05:11 PM
Hmm... as far as your question regarding fat, I do know that efa's in a diet definitely helps the skin, especially flax seed oil and avocados; you may be craving the fat and maybe that would help somewhat..but it seems like the eczema has returned with a vengeance. Have you done anything different lately? I'd be so curious to know how you balanced your ph with diet? Was there specific foods that you omitted? What supplements did you take and what cleanses did you do? I have been suffering from eczema my whole life and always thought it was my wheat allergy..well guess what going raw has eliminated that and for the past 8 weeks I have been strict strict strict and my eczema has gotten soo bad; which leads me to believe its yeast related. So, I'd definitely love to hear about your experience this far. I just started to supplement with coconut oil on a daily basis so its too soon to say whether its going to work (before I would have it once in awhile). Do you have any other symptoms besides the eczema??
karenisraw
01-21-2006, 08:51 PM
I have eaten coconut oil every day for a little over 4 weeks and I do not notice any rashes. I think my skin is softer and smoother though. :p
Sillybloss
01-22-2006, 10:12 AM
I'd be so curious to know how you balanced your ph with diet? Was there specific foods that you omitted? What supplements did you take and what cleanses did you do? ......for the past 8 weeks I have been strict strict strict and my eczema has gotten soo bad ... Do you have any other symptoms besides the eczema??
Hi Angelina!
You and I seem to be having a similar experience! First, the SAD diet is an acid diet. Bread, sugar and everything cooked is acid. We need an alkaline diet to balance our acid systems, so a PH balancing diet is intaking mostly alkaline foods (uncooked fruits and vegetables! Yippee!)....so, if you're mostly raw, you're probably mostly intaking alkaline ;) I test my PH every morning with strips I buy at the health food store and I'm usually 6.5 to 7.0 (7.0 is my goal), so I do pretty well. Supposedly, the dratted yeast can't live in that environment, but mine must be super yeast! :eek:
The supplements suggested on that diet were a Yeast Cleanser, NAC, ALA, Noni Juice, Colloidial silver, a balanced multi vitamin with cell salts and a balanced multi mineral with cell salts (could never find those, I just took a regular vitamin/mineral supplement), and a green drink in the morning. There were more, but I didn't take them and don't remember now. The Yeast Cleanser I've taken many times since just to "make sure".
The "Yeast Cleanse" I did recently....I just used the maximum formula every day and intook NO fruits of any kind for 3 weeks. I have tried MANY yeast formulas. Some seem not to work at all on me. Maybe yeasts are different in different people, because some of the ones I've tried are raved about by the health food people. I think you have to experiment and see what works for you.
As far as other symptoms, I can tell when I'm having a yeast problem because I am healthier now than before going on these cleansing diets. Now I have a sense of just not feeling as well as usual. I'm irritable, anxious, in a bad mood, impatient, bloated and I'm craving cooked food like CRAZY!!!!! :eek:
I'm going to double my intake of the yeast killer I'm taking (I use Solaray's "Yeast Cleanse") and try to annihilate it. My eyes are still puffy, but I can open them more this morning than yesterday morning (I've found an aloe vera gel that is wonderful and natural....just aloe and vitamins and purified water), so I'm slathering that on, but it's a temporary "band-aid" fix....it doesn't address the underlying problem.
Please update this thread if you feel the coconut oil is working...I might try just a bit this morning.
Blessings~! Christina
Angelina
01-23-2006, 09:37 AM
Hi Christina, yes it definitely sounds like we have many symptoms in common...its funny how I always attributed my eczema and all other symptoms to my food allergies, but I really think the underlying cause has been candida. I also have those nasty symptoms of impatient/moody, craving cooked foods (especially wheat based junk..bread..crackers..etc.)..
I just started taking Fungal Defense (by Garden of Life),I'll see how that works and let you know; I may try your product if I don't get good results. I'll let you know by the end of the week how this product along with the coconut oil is working. Right now the only fruit I have in my diet is grapefruit (I know I should really cut it out but I use it as a base for my E3Live), other than that I'm living on greens and veggies. I've cut back on most other fats (nuts/avo's) and just use a bit of olive oil on my salads.
After two weeks of this candida product I really want to get a colonic, have you ever had one? good or bad experience? I heard its great for getting rid of candida and also helps with constipation. Every place I look into recommends weekly colonics for about 12 weeks, although money is tight, I really think that a good cleaning will help me staying 100%.
Sillybloss
01-23-2006, 02:00 PM
Hi, Angelina!
I've taken Fungal Defense and I think it's a good product. I was taking many of the Garden of Life products and began having major digestive problems. I believe it was the Green Food, but just to be safe I've avoided those products since (I was taking a LOT of different supplements - it might have been too much for my body).
I've never had a colonic and there are widely differing opinions on the whole idea. Some groups believe that they are invasive, others believe they're absolutely necessary. I'd really like to go at least a couple of times, but it's a financial strain for me as well, especially if they required me to go 12 times :eek: !
I have been planning the colon cleanse approach instead. I did the Healthforce Nutritionals one in December (though I didn't finish because I got a VERY BAD flu!). Nothing notable came out. I'd like next to try the one Richard Anderson promotes or the Ejuva one (I think they're both about $300). The Healthforce one ran me about that, although I have some left because I didn't finish. I didn't like the difficulty of mixing the drawing formula....so I'm not sure I'll do that one again. I read that you won't clean out the really important debris until your 3rd, 4th, or 5th cleanse. That's between $900 - $1500 :eek: ! Maybe the colonic is better?
From what I understand, the yeast is living in the buried debris that supplements don't get to, that's why taking them is only a surface fix.
BTW, I did start taking a bit of coconut oil and haven't broken out worse than before. I've also found that it's HEAVENLY spread on the rash, and is clearing it up! My eyes were almost normal this morning (I slathered it on all yesterday evening), although my neck started to break out Saturday night and is still in major rash mode. Also, taking extra yeast killer does NOT make you feel too good....maybe it's die off!
Best of luck!
Christina
Maria
02-22-2006, 10:29 PM
I've had some minor ezcema over the years and I always find it comes out when I'm emotionally agitated. Did you have any kind of emotional upheaval to bring it on? Just a thought...
I generally feel really healthy, but I've suffered from dander/dust/mold allergies and asthma since I was born. A strict vegetarian diet in the past has helped to keep off medications, but I still have a cough, especially around dust. I've been raw almost two months now, and I'm eager to see if that cough clears up. I've read that asthma is a symptom of "leaky gut syndrome" that is caused by Candida. When I look back at my life and think of all the cinnamon rolls and other yeasty sweet goods I inhaled in my youth ;) there's no wonder I might have candida on some level.
I guess there aren't any real answers whether to stay off fruit sugar or not, the wisdom of the body knows what it needs, and it ain't suger and white flour for sure... I'm still waiting though for that wisdom to kick in. I do feel when I've eaten too much fruit, or too many veggies. I get tired of them and have to try something else. I don't think I'LL EVER GET TIRED OF AVOCADOS!!! And it's really important for digestion to soak the nuts I've learned. (for me anyway.)
Maria
rawpriestess
02-23-2006, 01:17 AM
My son and granddaughter had exzema very badly, and taking them off all dairy, and meat helped tremendously, but if you are a 100% raw vegan then that isnt' the challenge.
I do know that coconut oil applied to the skin is supposed to help, I would prefere olive oil, with some true lavendar and rose oil and maybe some comfrey to sooth the skin.
You might like to try that.
SparklePlenty
02-23-2006, 06:22 PM
I had a candida rash flare up when I first went 100% raw and I learned that for some of us, dietary fat is the culprit rather than fruit. I cut the fat way back, used a supplement called Candex for yeast treatment, and tried topical virgin coconut oil but that seemed to make the rash worse. I ended up researching and used....are you ready?.....preparationH topically for the itching. I also used raw apple cider vinegar applied topically. Worked like a charm and in about 4 weeks the rash was gone. It came and went during that time.
Sillybloss
02-24-2006, 12:37 PM
Yes, I had heard that some people have found Preparation H to work well. I'm not sure if it is considered non-toxic, though. Victoria Boutenko (sp?) suggests rubbing lemon juice on the rash to expel the mucous under the skin which is the real culprit. This makes sense to me, but the skin would get worse before better, so I've been procrastinating about trying this technique.
Neverknow
02-24-2006, 03:42 PM
Regarding having a colonic to HELP get rid of candida...I have had 5 colonics so far (1 per week) and I am telling you not only have they rid me of multiple unexplainable rashes, but the colonics have also relieved many other annoying protests my body was having.
I pay $50 per session and each time I feel great afterwards. Also, you can watch and see what is coming out of you so if there is a lot of white, bubbley, cloudy stuff going down the tube, you KNOW you are ridding your body of some candida.
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