is sparkling water raw?

[Lauradee]

i bought this sparkling water

ingredients: water and carbonation

my questtion is it okay to drink carboantion in water>

I usually add flavorings like oragne, root bear, lemon, ect plus stevia or agave.

it is delicious and tastes alot like soda

so,
carboanation,
what is it?

take care:)

laur

[Cecilia]

Carbonation is often taken from chemical processes that produce a lot of carbondioxide, such as the production of fertilizer. They take the CO2 (carbondioxide) and then out it through a different process before adding it to the soda.

So, it's chemically produced CO2. I guess it would be similar to regular chemically produced table salt.

[Arky]

More of an issue would be avoiding drinking it in excess, where it could, theoretically, contribute to leaching of calcium from the bones, on account of (obvious) quantities of carbonic acid being present in the water.

In moderation, it should be fine.


J.

[Punky]

More of an issue would be avoiding drinking it in excess, where it could, theoretically, contribute to leaching of calcium from the bones, on account of (obvious) quantities of carbonic acid being present in the water.

In moderation, it should be fine.


J.

Thanks Arky for the explanation; I have often wondered this myself becuase I enjoy drinking it on special occasions when I have guests or something.
I drink only one a month on average.

[Arky]

Before I woke up to nutrition and began taking charge of how different foodstuffs affect my body, I used to drink carbonated water at the rate of 2 litres a day, EVERY day for more than 3 years. Now, with joint troubles, I really wish I had known that this could be a contributory factor :(

Ohh well, you live and you learn!

Ironically, it is potentially beneficial to the teeth, however, on account of the carbonic acid allowing minerals present in the mouth, to re-mineralize the teeth. See more about this in other discussions on teeth on this board, and primarily in this well-summarised and informative document:

www.eco-dent.com/Remin%20screen.pdf


J.

[maydolphin10]

get mineral water instead, same taste, but its from natural springs

[Lauradee]

hi :)

thanks all for the great advice

did not know all this.

take care:)

laur

[greeninlosangeles]

I believe it is very harmful for your bones and for your teeth too, for the same reason - it leaches calcium from your body. It doesn't have sugar like soda does, but otherwise is the same. If you can- do not drink it. If you can't - drink as little as you can.

[rawpriestess]

And to add another monkey to the wrench,

water is not raw.

it is hydrogen and oxygen burned, which makes water.

just thought I'd toss that out there.

[jaurequi]

I agree with Maydolphin: Try a naturally carbonated water -- mineral water. Apparently it is considered "raw" by some. I haven't read anything contradicting this.

I've made a good "7-UP" or lemon-lime "soda" using mineral water. You would do best to invest in a good bottle stopper (couple of dollars only) such as this one or you will lose the fizz: BOTTLE STOPPER (http://fantes.com/images/7791stoppers.jpg) or this ONE (http://fantes.com/images/17895stoppers.jpg), found at supermarkets or Whole Foods is where I got mine. There are wine and champagne stoppers which may work for this; but I don't know.
Anyway, even putting the top back on might work, but I've had bad luck with that; they go flat quickly it seems.

Anyway, with a good vegetable peeler or a zester, peel or zest the very thin peel of a lemon and a lime and place into the mineral water. Cover quickly with the stopper and let it sit for several hours or overnight. It flavors the mineral water nicely. To add sweetening, I like stevia; but you may want to add agave or your preference. Beware that those sweeteners (agave, etc.) will contribute to a bit of flattening to the carbonation; so perhaps add it before serving will help that.

Alternatively, ginger, as well as orange makes a nice drink too. If you can find the herbs, sarsaparilla, or sassafras, you might try a rootbeer :)

Best,

[Sheryl]

On a recent audio David Wolf actually talked about 'raw' water. I heard this from my husband, so I'm sure I don't have all the details right. But what it 'boiled' down to was that regular spring water didn't impact the body like cooked food, however boiled water kicked off the same immune response as cooked food. He did say you can heat to water to fairly high temperatures (it will feel hot to touch) but the temperature was less than boiling.

This is great news for people that still enjoy herbal tea!

Cheers,
Sheryl

[sport]

On a recent audio David Wolf actually talked about 'raw' water. I heard this from my husband, so I'm sure I don't have all the details right. But what it 'boiled' down to was that regular spring water didn't impact the body like cooked food, however boiled water kicked off the same immune response as cooked food. He did say you can heat to water to fairly high temperatures (it will feel hot to touch) but the temperature was less than boiling.

This is great news for people that still enjoy herbal tea!

Cheers,
Sheryl

This is not good news for the people (me included) who use a water distiller.

[sport]

This is not good news for the people (me included) who use a water distiller.

I have been thinking about this since and was very concerned because the water I drink makes up a huge part of my daily intake and if it is not raw then I woul have to change.
I think that all water has been boiled very often because this is surely what causes evapouration and a distiller is just simulating evapouration so how can it be considered cooked.

[ambiguous]

On a recent audio David Wolf actually talked about 'raw' water. I heard this from my husband, so I'm sure I don't have all the details right. But what it 'boiled' down to was that regular spring water didn't impact the body like cooked food, however boiled water kicked off the same immune response as cooked food. He did say you can heat to water to fairly high temperatures (it will feel hot to touch) but the temperature was less than boiling.

Sheryl, I don't want to doubt or insult you or your husband, but for heaven's sake . . . I can't imagine that every drop of water on earth hasn't at some point been exposed to temperatures higher than boiling; I mean the earth has been around for a long, long time, and the many hot springs are proof that water can get very hot indeed underground. While I'm all for keeping living plant food under certain temperatures (including dried herbs used for tea), I think applying the same standards to inorganic substances is, quite frankly, ridiculous. Not that I recommend drinking boiling water, but water boiled then cooled I can't imagine actually stimulates an immune response like cooked food.
I'm always willing to be proven wrong, but please by someone other than David Wolfe.

But I would urge drinking mineral water that is naturally carbonated (i.e. comes out of the ground that way); it stays carbonated way longer than carbonated water.

[Punky]

But I would urge drinking mineral water that is naturally carbonated (i.e. comes out of the ground that way); it stays carbonated way longer than carbonated water.

Oh, I was confusing sparkling water and mineral water; I drink mineral
water that is naturally carbinated about once a month.
So I gather that mineral water's carbination is better for the body
than the man made carbinated water?!?!?

[Sheryl]

I don't think it's really the temperature that's the factor, rather it's likely use of technology. We personally use a water filter that can take water and filter and re-energize it. The company actually paid MARASU EMOTO, who is an absolute master at water research, to test their water. You can look him up online easier and he has multiple books too (might be in the library). Our filter can take takes chlorine smelling water with rust (at our last place) and turns it into beautiful water.

Water from natural sources has these beautiful snowflake shapes when frozen. Distilled tends to just be a block. Water from polluted sources tends to be pretty scary. Emoto has done all kinds of research and published papers on this, and was even included in the movie "What the Bleep".

You can read more about what Emoto has done and see pictures at http://www.hado.net/water_crystals.html (although he only seems to have pictures of positive things there, not from polluted water, or tap water around the world like in one of his books).

Cheers,
Sheryl

[Angelic Light]

Do you know if mineral water in bottles has the positive snowflake shapes?

[Sheryl]

Hey Angelic Light,

Interesting question... I don't know the answer, but I think that natural spring water (bubbly or not) as mentioned bove would be most likely to still carry the natural formations in water. Check out Emotos work if you're interested to see more.. it's absolutely wild!

Cheers,
Sheryl

[rawfigure]

On a recent audio David Wolf actually talked about 'raw' water. I heard this from my husband, so I'm sure I don't have all the details right. But what it 'boiled' down to was that regular spring water didn't impact the body like cooked food, however boiled water kicked off the same immune response as cooked food. He did say you can heat to water to fairly high temperatures (it will feel hot to touch) but the temperature was less than boiling.

Sheryl, I don't want to doubt or insult you or your husband, but for heaven's sake . . . I can't imagine that every drop of water on earth hasn't at some point been exposed to temperatures higher than boiling; I mean the earth has been around for a long, long time, and the many hot springs are proof that water can get very hot indeed underground. While I'm all for keeping living plant food under certain temperatures (including dried herbs used for tea), I think applying the same standards to inorganic substances is, quite frankly, ridiculous. Not that I recommend drinking boiling water, but water boiled then cooled I can't imagine actually stimulates an immune response like cooked food.
I'm always willing to be proven wrong, but please by someone other than David Wolfe.

But I would urge drinking mineral water that is naturally carbonated (i.e. comes out of the ground that way); it stays carbonated way longer than carbonated water.

I have been listening to Davids Adio's monthly at his member site and he often talks about water. He never claims water can be made "Raw" (as technical as RP points out no water is Raw, so then no one can ever be 100% raw lol....) He simply talks about the way water is processed bottled and stored and how that affects the water and what he beleives makes it apprpriate for a Raw Foodie. He believes that we should drink water that is presented in its most natural form. He recommends the Trinity Artesian Water (which I love) and the Fiji too. Artesian water is heated at 300 degrees as it comes up through its path to us.

Wolfe also takes about spinning water, and ormus and other funky topics in
relation to water. He spends his time traveling doing various studies and experiments and you have to admit he is knowledgeable. He has brought some, new to us in the US, raw superfoods.