Warning: Not for the faint of heart (nose).

[Rosea]

Hello.

I am terrribly gassy. I mean, so bad that my boyfriend won't even sit in the same room with me. It smells like sulfur, like rotten eggs. My bowels are loose and I have been going ang going and going. I am getting tired of this. Is this detox and has anyone else experiance this?

Very unpopluar with my family right now as the odor is so stong, now everyone is in a bad mood because it travels into every room of the house. What can I do, is this normal dotox? I have never had such a bad case of gas. Can't even move without passing it. It smells like rotten eggs, yuch.

Thank you for reading this. I hope this is normal. Can you tell me?

Sweetly,
Rose. (what a name. I wish I smelled like one!) :o

[Colin]

Are you eating soy or drinking soy milk? Often soy is not well tolerated and can cause gas and odor. Maybe broccoli or cauliflower is not being well received right now?
Also some improper food combining can cause this.
Maybe your body is eliminating stored medicines?
We would perhaps have to know what your daily food and meals consist of.

[Revvell]

There's not enough information here to comment much other than to say ~ do some enemas or colonics and assist in the clean out.

Revvell

[twinee1]

To to eat momo foods for awhile that you know you are sensitive to. Change your food choices totally then add back in the ones you are ating now. It may be detox and end or there may be a specific food you do not tolerate well.

[Rosea]

More info? Well, along with the gas I have terrible cramps both front and back and low, not high up. After waking this morning, I am having very loose stools when the gas comes out, so do the stools. I can't go anywhere until this clears up.

My diet is all raw, and I have done nothing to change it when this occurred except I changed my workout. For the last two days, I have been doing crunches on a big round ball, which puts more strain on the abs. Since then, my abs aren't happy AT ALL. Do you think I may be looseing up some incrusted matter from the exercise? I have never done crunches before in my life. m aybe my body doesn't like them. I am trying to get rid of my apron of flab I told yall about so I have been working hard on my abs. Are they punishing me?

I ahve been eating alot of flax. Flax crackers. Flax oil, ect with my meals, but that really isn't something new.

My head feels alittle ligghtheaded with a headache yesturday.

I hate gas. whay does it have to smell so bad and hurt? It is sooooo unnerving.

I am hoping this is detox.
I eat alot of apples.


sweetly,
Rose

[joannes]

Rose - besides a lot of flax (which is known to cause cramps, bloating, gas, etc), what else are you eating every day? I think it would help everyone if we knew exactly what you are eating.

[exurb]

Rose, do you eat those apples you like throughout the day? Are you eating fruit at the same time you're digesting vegetables, etc.

I don't have any deep knowledge about food combining, but I find if I only eat fruit first thing in the morning on an empty stomach, and do not eat any other fruit, or especially never eat fruit within 3 hours of other foods, no gas. As soon as I mix up fruits with other stuff, especially veggies,

The kind of gas you're experiencing is not necessary with a raw foods diet, so don't give up on raw just because of that. It is not necessarily just "raw" in general that's doing it to you, it could be the specific way you're eating, what you're eating, what you're eating it with, etc...

Also, are you still eating too much in general? Are you like chowing down/pigging out on all sorts of things in gas producing combinations... were you eating much less fiber before?

I would say try to calm down your eating patterns in terms of what you ask your body to digest all at once. Then as your body adapts to raw food and all that fiber, you can maybe push it a little more. I would say try isolating your fruit to first thing in the morning. Don't be shy in how much you eat, just don't eat anything with it. Then try to eat fairly "pure" things, eat soaked nuts as a meal (maybe with some salad or celery or some easy to digest veggies), eat a couple of veggie only meals (maybe with stuff like avocado, raw corn, whatever). Then get more into nicely combined things. Maybe someone who's an expert at food combining could give you more detailed info, but in general for me rule #1 is don't mix the fruit with the veggies.

Also, don't forget to chew well! It may help to eat things finely grated, such as carrots, etc. Don't be sending huge chunks of stuff down the pipe to ferment or be digested improperly.

Also, about apples, it's my opinion that many of the apples on the market were picked not truly ripe, and we're asking our bodies to digest some unripe food with certain apples. Apples are VERY good for you in general, so don't give them up, just look for truly ripe ones.

Also, is your diet BALANCED in general, or are you going too ultra low fat. For me, I believe that we have to balance some soaked seeds/nuts, some avocado or other fats, along with the fruit and veggies in balanced proportion. I also like to do a little buckwheat, stuff like that. I've seen many people here complain of gas, but they are eating pretty much fruits and veggies, no fat, not a balanced, well rounded diet.

Hope this helps - don't throw the baby out with the bathwater - you can be raw and not have gas.

[JMD]

I feel your pain...I must say I LOVE apples but have to peel mine ALONG with excellent food combining to halt the gasiness. I thas helped a lot. Also flax oil works GREAT for me , but the ground flax gives me more gax than Exxon!
Also I would suggest chewing lots and eating slowly--lots of gas somes from gulps and rushing meals.

Maybe journal what you eat--every bit liquids to and then see what triggers it. Some of it may be detox. Just rememeber this too shall pass!!!

JMD

[Revvell]

The request for more info was not about the gas or stools yet as joannes said, about your food program. Saying it's "all raw" doesn't help much. How much is dried fruit? how often do you eat? What do you mean by a "lot" of apples? How much water are you drinking? (a ton doesn't answer that). How many green smoothies? What's in them? What are you eating with the flaxcrackers?

Revvell

[Rosea]

No dried fruit at all here.
I eat when I am hungry, and that varies.

Yesterday I had a bananna for breakfast with some ginger tea and stevia.

For a mid morning snack I made a smoothie with organic lettuces of all kinds and three tablespoons of flax seed oil and one bananna to thicken it all up.

Lunch I had some bananna flax crackers dipped in strawberry bananna ice cream I ate about 20 crackers about the size of a deck of cards and a 12 oz. bag of organic strawberries and one bananna. Yummie ness..........

For dinner I ate some avacado one with salsa..... then it happened.... the terible gas....

I usually eat two organic granny smiths with raw almond butter at a time. One apple doesn't fill me up at all when I am starved. I do this about twice a day. Once in the mid day and then an after dinner snack around six.

I am drinking a little over half a gallon a day. of water


Sweetly ,
Rose

[Rosea]

thanks everyone.

[twinee1]

I would try no flax for a week. I know you said no problems in the past but sometimes the body changes and surprises us!

[JMD]

I would have horrible gas too..if I ate any nut butters, fruit at night and banana ice cream --though I LOVE IT-- it would give me gas that'd make my hubby look at me funny.
My suggestions would be to food combine, and eat one or two foods at a time. If you get the gas right after salsa and avocado--why not stop it for a few days to see if that is the culprit. IMO, the only way to know is ---to eat really simply and when you add in combinations and certain foods you will be sure. Somhow and somewhere you are giving your body something that cannot eliminate fast enough and it is producing gas.

Look at a food combining chart and take it from threre.

Good luck:)
JMD

[yogikate]

I think it's great that you are keeping track of what is triggering the gas. Food journeling is highly recommended for my clients. I agree strongly with Revvell, that having a colonic (if not a few in a row) would be most helpful.

[Rosea]

Well, I had a better day today. I was at least able to make it to the toilet before I exploded with gas and poop. I went' to the theatre which I shouldn't have done because I got the strangest looks and it's not like I can just get up and change seats everytime I pass gass, but they sure did and by the time the movie was over, I was sitting in my own pew bascially. pardon the pun, but that's exactly what thihs detox feels like.

I had a colonoscopy a little while ago, so I don't see the need to have several in a row, but thanks for the idea. I was normal.


The gas is getting better and so I think it was someting I ate that was bad. Glad it's getting better as I am tired of washing all my stuff over agiain. Maybe this detox will be done for good now do you thinK? I will keep you posted as to how I progress.

Thanks by the way for all the lovely emails. Sorry I don't have time to replly to everyone individually. It is appreciated during this explosive time.

very sweetly,
Rose the stinker

[greeninlosangeles]

Just curious - how long are you raw? I had similar episodes before when I was 3 or 4 weeks raw. Now they are gone, unless I binge on raisins (I love raisins and filberts so much, that I don't buy them anymore).

[oceanluv]

I had a colonoscopy a little while ago, so I don't see the need to have several in a row, but thanks for the idea. I was normal.

A colonoscopy and colonic are not the same thing. The colonic will help to "wash"out your lower colon, where the colonoscopy was to inspect and view your colon. Where you having problems that required the colonoscopy?

[SamuelWilson]

Rosea, you are brutally honest. I just have to commend you on your bravery. I doubt many women could be so forward. The raw food diet will cure anything in my opinion. I think in due time, as long as you stay with it, you will be fine in the end (no pun intended :( )

[Rosea]

well. I had a colonoscopy because of constipation. I was so constipated that I didn't go for two weeks straight. I was eating a SAD diet then. They wanted to find out why I was having so much trouble. Come to find out, I had a big lump of dried feces stuck near the duct and they had to pull it out with instruments, it was sort a blockage of dried encrusted feces, but eveything was normal because Dr said most people have that. I don't want another one, though. Colonics sound similr, no thank you it sounds like another evasive type thing.

I have been raw for 11 months now. Never in that time did I send my family running into another room like I have this week with painful gassssss

HOpe that answeres your questions.

Update. Family stayed in the same room with me yesturday, side way glances and weird looks were few, and my boyfriend still loves me, hurray!!! In other words, my gas is still pressuring me to let it out, but not in public, I run into the other room quickly, so as to make sure nobody hears, at least I can now make it out of the room. NO accidents eaither. The poop is solidified enough and I am doing better. MY POOPS ARE FLOATING!

Ladies, thanks again for emailing me about this. it is so nice to know I am not alone. Their is so much pressure to let it all out, but I understand if you want to email me instead. I am glad we women can stick together, aren't you?

I am having terrible pain and gotta go potty again. When will I get to the 'bottom' of this? I am going to eat simply today. I believe I have stirred the pot enough for one day.

I am glad there is no "smell-a-internet" type thing. I would have NO friends if that were the case.

sweetly,
Rose

[DrPr]

Hi, Rosa

I have had gas since starting raw on the 1st of the year. Actually, it started a day or two later. I had almost exactly what you have except the gas was apparently more controllable than yours. Today, a week or so later, I have all the symptoms except at a lower magnitude than when it begain, and without the severe cramps. My stools are definitely dark green, too!! I was going to post a question but you got to it first. I see I'm not the only one going through it. I was thinking of trying food combining, so I think I might go ahead and try it after all.

I have been taught not to talk of such things as bodily functions. It has taken me a week to discuss my problem in a forum because of what I've been taught. I thought it was great that you did it, paving the way for the more shy amongst us to benefit from the feedback. Thank you for helping me, even if you didn't know you were.

[raeannasun]

Like Samuel said, raw foods will most likely correct any problems. And have you considered talking to a colonist? It sounds like your experience with a colonoscopy was not very pleasant, but a colonic/enema is not as abrasive and you may find relief. Or, you might read up on home enema kits.

Anyway, hope everything works out!!!

(BTW........my very first date with my husband was a night I had horrible gas!!! (I was a SAD eater then)! I was so embarrased!!! It was an SBD and we were in the car! There was no escaping the truth so I had to humbly apologize and roll down the window!!! LOL!!! He still loves me anyway!!!)

[.: jennifer :.]

Hi Rosea - i just wanted to say I was afraid of having a colonic for a very long time, but my husband and I both had our first one a few months ago and we have really seen and felt some very positive changes!

I don't want to write a novel here... :) but I just wanted to say that really a colonic is nothing like a colonoscopy. A colonic - or colon hydrotherapy - is actually very relaxing and the only thing that might be considered invasive is the smallest tip of a small hose which you have to insert about an inch in. (i don't want to get to graphic or anything... i just want to reassure Rosea that it's nothing like a colonoscopy! :))

I'm in Eugene, OR and we now go to Alder Brooke Healing Arts to have colonics. It's a very relaxing environment. The lady massages your feet and belly with these wonderful oils and there's music playing and the water just trickles in and your body naturally knows how to release it all when it's done with the water. It stimulates all sorts of things - liver, kidneys, etc - and when I had my first one I was amazed at what all - hardened feces type material - was released by my body... but the most amazing experience was when my colon has been flushed completely then my liver began to dump toxic waste.

I went through a session where I felt like I had chills and even the flu for about 5 minutes, and my liver began dumping all this yellow'ish bile and really awful stuff. It felt like I had diahrea... once that all passed, though, I felt incredible!! My skin has never looked better and I'm not tired anymore, I was getting to a point where I just felt kinda tired and heavy all the time, even with good eating habits, lots of raw foods, and food combining.

I feel awesome now, really light and it also seemed to sort of rejuvenate the desire to continue eating healing foods and it gave me this really excited feeling about all the positive things I was doing for my body. Something about going through a colonic just sort of refreshes your desire to be good to yourself... it helps get you back in touch with you. I hope that makes sense. :)

My husband has lost 55 pounds since he had his first colonic done... he totally changed his diet and after his colonic he also had a few very large bowel movements that he thinks he would not have had if he hadn't had a colonic to remove built-up stuff and blockages...

When you have a colonic you get to actually see what comes out if you choose to - there's a little viewing tube where you can see it flush out, and I think - even though that can be kinda gross to see! - that seeing all the built-up waste and rubbery stuff that was mucking up his insides has really encouraged my husband to be better to his body and wiser with his food choices.

My husband also always had really bad stinky gas, but since his colonic it hasn't completely gone away (he still eats some cooked foods and I notice after he eats those foods he is very gassy) the gas has at least gotten much better since the colonic.

Anyway - good luck with everything. Oh and I agree with everyone who recommended food combing. I have to be very careful with that, too. I cannot eat fruits with anything else, otherwise I'm in trouble! Even tomatoes... and that's the hardest thing because I love salsa... and sometimes I still eat salsa on my salads because it really makes a great dressing... but I have to admit, it always gives me gas.

[Rawkinlocs]

Rosea,

The kind of gas you described, I've had that kind too...usually it's mainly when I've eaten questionable things, though. But I also realize that my colon is not completely free of all that impacted it prior to me going raw...I was VERY constipated most of my life! :o

You've already gotten some wonderful suggestions here though...so I've nothing to add to that.

[Punky]

Hi Rosea,
Hope you are feeling better. When I 1st went raw I was a bit gassy the 1st week or two than it totally went away till I goofed and started eating cooked and then I got gassy again. I find whenever I "change" my diet my system
has to adjust. It was always pretty controllable though, and since
you've been raw for awhile it sounds like food combining or something just doesn't mix with you system. You might detox heavily thru you bowels where others have breakouts on there skin, etc.
I did get gas worse once
when I tried the cabbage soup diet years ago and will never do that again
:o There are great suggestions from the others on this board about
the food combining and colonics and keeping a journal. I think you would
greatly benefit from all of those suggestions.

Hoping you a quick recovery!
oh, perhaps you have some kind of stomach virus that is making your
system upset? My kids can pass on some nasty viruses that
get spread around from school.

[Punky]

Rose, I was just watching an interview with Sapoty Brook ( a long time rawfooder of 20+ years); he mentions that people who eat SAD diets
get too much sodium, but people that switch to RAW diets sometimes don't get enough and it can lead to various symptoms including poor digestion, bloating
and diarrhea, etc...just thought I'd throw that out there...not sure
what all you eat on a daily basis but you never know. He recommends 4 stalks
celery a day. You can use a bit of celtic sea salt too i'm sure instead.

Keep us updated.

[exurb]

I went' to the theatre which I shouldn't have done because I got the strangest looks and it's not like I can just get up and change seats everytime I pass gass, but they sure did and by the time the movie was over, I was sitting in my own pew bascially. pardon the pun, but that's exactly what thihs detox feels like.


I am very sorry you are having gas, and I'm sure you're on your way to resolving it, and I'm happy for you that you are trying to improve your life, and hope you find all the raw blessings many of us have found.

I would like to suggest respectfully in the meantime that you look at your attitude toward subjecting others to your gas. Perhaps it would make you less uncomfortable about the whole situation if others weren't unwillingly subjected to the noxious fumes ;) . It's my personal opinion that it isn't right to subject others to gas to that degree, especially in a public space like a theater, to me if someone has bad gas, out of courtesy to others, they should take it outside or to the bathroom, or another room. May I suggest you use excuse yourself to a bathroom, leave a theater, go read in your bedroom rather than make your loved ones in the living room breathe it, etc., whatever. Then you don't have to feel guilty about it while you adjust, and others don't have to suffer. Plus you don't risk your circle of support becoming unsupportive. In the program at our local concert hall they ask patrons to be considerate to others in not wearing excessive perfume, to me the same principle applies :o .

I walked into someone's "cloud" while I was Christmas shopping, and I've gotta tell ya, it was really awful :eek:

So I think if you make the gas less of a burden on others, maybe it won't bother you so much while you're working things out, and you could be liberated from feeling bad or awkward about it. Gas away happily in your room at home or in the loo, laugh at it, and rejoice in the process that's got you on the path toward a better life. I'm sure it will pass (another pun for ya) as you seem to be doing a great job in trying to find out what's causing it and rectify :rolleyes: the situation.

Good luck, wishing you many raw blessings, and hope an improvement in air quality is forthcoming. :)

[Rawkinlocs]

Everyone who followed this thread on yesterday (Thursday, January 12, 2006) you all know there were some things that took place. I was asked to delete this entire thread ...I opted to just clean it up. So, if your posts are edited or removed, that is why.

I will now lock this thread. The OP was answered/addressed and anyone in the future who has the same types of gas issues as the OP will have some helpful suggestions to refer back to with the responses given.

Thanks all! :)