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Miranda
12-08-2005, 06:18 PM
anyone know how many calories are in one of these?? a general idea would be helpful!
thanks

truthseeker
12-08-2005, 08:28 PM
I don't think there are many rawbies who count calories (could be wrong...I don't know any). There's really no need.

sport
12-09-2005, 07:57 AM
I agree that people who are 100% raw do not need to count calories and I have stated so many times to my friends and husband to be put in my place by being told that that attitude is OK if you are 100% but if I am expecting them to mix my raw stuf within their normal diet then they still need to be aware of the calories and I cant stuf them full of avacados and nuts and oils.

I am so lucky and I feel so sorry for them.
(sorry but I do not have the answer to your question re the cookies)

twinee1
12-09-2005, 11:07 AM
I have stopped "counting calories" since going raw (freedom !)

but I do like to be mindful of my intake due to may fitness goals...so that being said I have a VERY General Idea of what is in these kind of treats based on the fact that alot of them have similar ingredients (and I have made my own and tracked it) of nut, carob, coconuts, honey or dates...so for a serving you are looking at some where around 190-250 cals .

VeggieGirl
12-09-2005, 01:50 PM
To answer your question - there are lots of life giving, completely healthy, nourishing, beautifying calories in Raweo Cookies so please eat as MANY as you want! ;)

VeggieGirl

Miranda
12-09-2005, 06:37 PM
thank you for your responses everyone. though they weren't quite what i was looking for, they are greatly appreciated. :)

i had an ed for 11 years. i'm now "recovered" but i still count my calories. it's a habit i haven't been able to break, but i'm working on it. i look forward to that "FREEDOM".

thank you again!!!!

Sharon in Colorado
12-09-2005, 06:43 PM
Not sure about the calories, but I did not like them. Actually, every person raw or cooked who tried them didn't like them either, I even tried to send them back, that is how bad they were. Maybe they've improved them since then.

However, the lemon swirls were a hit.

twinee1
12-09-2005, 07:15 PM
thank you for your responses everyone. though they weren't quite what i was looking for, they are greatly appreciated. :)

i had an ed for 11 years. i'm now "recovered" but i still count my calories. it's a habit i haven't been able to break, but i'm working on it. i look forward to that "FREEDOM".

thank you again!!!!

Miranda, I have been there until just recently and it has taken months to stop counting calories. I still find myself at fitday a few days a week just to check in. I started counting at the age of 14..now I am 44...I thought I made progress when I stopped counting gum....

If we can be supportive in anyway..we are here !!

Miranda
12-10-2005, 11:14 AM
twinee1:
it's nice to know that someone can relate. i too started counting calories at a young age, when i was 12 or 13..i'm 24 now. I log onto fitday daily as well as write my calories in a notebook, something i've always done. i still count gum, though i've cut down on that drastically. even though i'm eating fruits and vegetables, it's still very important to me that i stay within my calorie range. healthy food or not, going over my range is terrifying.

thank you so much for your support. i appreciate it dearly!!!

honeybee joy
12-10-2005, 02:24 PM
Try calling Nature's First Law. They might know the calorie count, or might know where to find the info. I have a pack of the Heavenly Chai Raweo cookies. There is a phone number on the package. I would call them, they should know. I tried to call the number & only got a answering machine.

twinee1
12-10-2005, 02:57 PM
I was looking for Nutritional info for Lydia's Organics Nori bread and crackers and they said they do not have it available and are looking to find a reputable lab to do it. I am thinking many of these smaller companies deal with this issue & the cost.

If it is a issue for you Miranda, instead of causing yourself stress, buy the items that do have the Calorie count on them like Lara's and the Good Stuff Brand (these are a good tasty product). I am not advocating calorie counting but I have been in your place so I know it is not something that is easy to cold turkey from.

It is good you are here and going Raw. You will find the freedom from this calorie counting, journalling at an earlier age than I did. I am still doing it a few times a week, and proudly have not weighed myself this week !! yahoo (it was a daily obsession of mine, at it height several times a day)

I started a Journal here and I am finding I do not have the desire to go to fitday and log. Since going raw eating to much has not been an issue. In fact I am now finding days I did not eat enough ! What a switch that is....to get to the end of the day and say wow I can have a treat vs..gee I guess I better not eat anymore today. :)

Keep me posted on your progress.

Leslie

RawTruth
12-10-2005, 03:42 PM
Miranda,

I wish you only the best on your difficult journey out of ED.

You have picked the absolutely best route to complete health - physical and emotional.

Believe me when I say that if you go completely raw you do not have to consider calories. By eating a variety of delicious fresh foods, you will meet all your body's needs and will not be able to overeat. Maybe by switching your focus to how much greens you're consuming each day, you can begin moving away from counting calories. Eating enough greens is far more important. Also, by making your own sweet foods (like Alissa's Date Nut Torte and Fudge Balls, to name a few), you will not need to buy packaged raw foods, and you will see exactly what goes in them. Dates and nuts and sweet fruits are not bad things; they were designed to nourish our bodies. They are not even "treats" -- they needn't be saved for when we're "good" or, conversely, used to punish ourselves, either. They're merely Nature's way of feeding us.

It might help to know that calorie counts arise from the world of processed foods. As you see that world as fake and bad for you, you will begin rejecting it. And, the longer you are raw, the less those packaged foods (even raw packaged like Raweos) will appeal to you.

Leslie mentioned that keeping a journal helped her. This is such a great tool. I strongly suggest you consider doing so, too. The act of writing down what you eat every day along with your thoughts and feelings can fulfill that need to count and account for your food intake and exercise. If you haven't done so, why don't you browse among some members' journals. Have you thought of doing a 30 Day Challenge? That's a great combination. There are some long time members who still keep a journal, by the way. They like being held accountable.

Again -- I wish you the best.

ReneeSC
12-10-2005, 04:23 PM
RawTruth nailed it on the head!

Everything is different with raw food - even raw calories are different once the body begins its adjustment to them.

I know that when you first begin all of this, that you can "hear" what people are saying about how different this lifestyle really is, but in the back of your mind you're still thinking another way.. maybe even reserving total judgement until you see it for yourself. Of course, as with anything human, your results may vary. They usually do! ( rats..just spilled my lemon water all over the desk )

As with raw: A raw calorie is not the same as a cooked calorie. Yes, they are technically "feul", but the body assimilates them differently. There are some here who've been raw for months and yet haven't lost any weight, and they're in the tier where they really want to. And, yet, there's a lot of healing that needs to occur. Raw will do that, too.

Having been through EDs myself, I want to say that you, Miranda, have come a long way! But, you're still not finished. I know you want that freedom, but as of yet it's infathomable. Just keep going and it'll fathom itself. ( grin ).

Let's say that there is a "high-caloric" item that your body NEEDS..and NEEDS immediately. It's screaming for it. But, because you're afraid of the "calories" - you shy away from it.. when that one item could be the catalyst that will cure something deep in your body. That's why we say.. JUST EAT!!!!

So WHAT if the scale ( that impliment of satan lol ) says you've either gained a pound or lost one? SO?? Are you healing? Is your body changing? Are you detoxing? Is your body holding onto the nutrtition its been BEGGING for...?? You CAN'T count raw weight the same as the other. It's NOT the same.

I'm roughly 20+ lbs HEAVIER on the scale at this pant size than I was when I was 15 and wearing it. How can that be? Because my body was so starved..and my bones were so depleted..and my blood so thin...that it grabbed up that nutrition and held onto it.

After I'd come off of my last round of ED ( the bad one where I almost died ) - I went into the military thinking I was okay. AFter 5 months of intense training ( I happened to go into an experimental cycle to test womens' abilities ) -... I had SEVEN BROKEN BONES, lost 90/200 of my hearing, contracted RAD ( reactive airway disease ), had collapsed, and couldn't sleep. Why? BTW: out of sheer determination, even as sick as I was, I maxed it all.

My body's store of immunity, of calcium... and other things ...left me so weak.

There's another woman - oh... Helen.. what's her name??? She eats like over 3,500 of raw calories a DAY. Say WHAT?? Yeah.. and she weighs like 115 lbs. Can you say metabolism is on fire? LOL

Its relative, Hon.

Now, if you want to "experiement" with this raw calorie stuff.. you can keep track ( how on Earth.. I dunno.. it's hard with raw ) - of your total raw intake, your exercise, your sleep, and all of the changes that are occuring in your body. However - don't seek to change the calories. Switch the experiment ( since you like to document and it makes you feel more in control ), to seeing OTHER sorts of results... like: how long it takes for your vision to change, how long it takes for you to detox that sore throat, or if your hair begins to be silkier, changes in sleeping patterns.. etc.

Perhaps once you intentionally change your focus of attention, that freedom will just sail right along side of you. eh?

I've been anorexic/bulemic/over-eater because of blood sugar. Its amazing what raw will do.

RawTruth
12-10-2005, 04:52 PM
( rats..just spilled my lemon water all over the desk )

. . . Just keep going and it'll fathom itself. ( grin ).

. . . Can you say metabolism is on fire? LOLRenee . . . you crack me up!

Callie
12-10-2005, 08:11 PM
Hi miranda. I just want to say that I understand where you are coming from because i'm 19 and for two years I swung between anorexia/exercise abuse to binge eating. It has taken me a lot of time to recover from the effects of that time but I am finally doing it. There is light at the end of the tunnel- I just want you to know. It used to freak me out even if I went 100-200 over my limit and I would go insane emotionally. The funny thing is, now for the first time that I dont care, i am losing weight more that i ever did with an ed. its now that i am focused on loving my body and nourishing it and not letting it feel deprived at all that it is finally working with me.

Im not telling you that you have to do anything or be anything today tomorrow or even in a year. I just want you to know that there will come a day when you have peace in your life again and its a beautiful thing. I encourage you to seek God in your journey out of that bondage. Knowing that I wasnt alone in this struggle really helped me to make it through. I just wanted to post because I hear you and I really want you to feel hopeful about the future:) You are great- just keep walking the raw path!!!:)

Miranda
12-10-2005, 08:32 PM
thank you again everyone. i really appreciate your advice and support and brilliant words. i'm really glad that i've found this place, i think it's exactly what i've been looking for.

thanks again!!!

ladybug
12-21-2005, 03:15 PM
Not sure about the calories, but I did not like them. Actually, every person raw or cooked who tried them didn't like them either, I even tried to send them back, that is how bad they were. Maybe they've improved them since then.

However, the lemon swirls were a hit.
I order these rawos also and they are awful. No one in my family liked them, and believe me my husband has never meet a sweet he did not eat until now.