Teeth and Gums Talk: Brushing with Baking Soda and Hydrogen peroxide

[aspie_and_proud]

Hello everyone. How was your Thanksgivings?

Mine wasn't the best, I attempted to make a vegan Thanksgiving and failed miserably. I was in bed most of the day, because it was that time of the month and particularly painful. I got up late to make dinner and ended up under-cooking the veggie burgers and making a gross side dish. To top it off, I burned the roof and back of my mouth, both of which still hurt. :( That is what started my most recent mouth troubles. My front tooth has been aching for three days now (on and off) and I must have bought the wrong toothbrush, because brushing with it is causing pain for my gums. Besides that I have had this white part on the front of my gums for months now and now I have the same thing on two upper teeth. I think a dentist visit is in order, I am LONG overdue (it's been more than 6 years). I started oil pulling again, though, so I hope that helps.

I started using baking soda, hydrogen peroxide (and a bit of water to dilute the peroxide) to brush my teeth months ago, but stopped and started using coral white. Well, Coral White didn't seem to do anything for my teeth. In fact, after a month and a half of using it I noticed brown rings around my back teeth (left and right side). Immediately I switched back to the baking soda and hydrogen peroxide mix and after a few days the brown rings went away. I have read a bit from the forums on how abrasive it is and that it should only be used once or twice a week, but I am using it every day AT LEAST once a day. It seems to have been helping me. My teeth haven't been "tweaking" out on me anymore than usual. I have very sensitive teeth, which I have had since I was a teenager, but after eating a lot of grapes last Spring it has gotten worse. It is very confusing to see so many different "studies" and opinions on oral care. I read somewhere from a professional that is against fluoride and says that baking soda isn't too abrasive and is the best choice. And "studies" and experts that say we need fluoride in our tooth paste for whatever health reasons. Bah. Very, very confusing.

What is your oral care routine? How has it helped you? What oral issues have you dealt with, or are dealing with? What was your remedy? Also, if you have a natural tooth brush, where did you buy it?

Thanks for the replies in advance. Have a good week.

[streetsurfer]

Bruxism was causing me gum line sensitivitiy and tooth pain. An NTI TSS bite guard took care of that. Bruxism chips away at the enamel at the gumline-called abfraction, which leads to sensitivity. The bite guard helped with a myriad of problems like sore neck and shoulders, headaches, and waking feeling hungover and beat up.

My normal routine is brushing with baking soda with a bit of ground stevia leaf added. Occassionally might add a drop of Bronner's or black soap to the brush. If I do get a sore on my gum or in my mouth (canker sore or bit cheek), or even a sore tooth, I lay a slice of garlic over it for a while.

I would dispense with the regular use of the pyroxide. I've known of it to be used to help remove necrotic tissue or help with infected wounds, but evidently it also harms good tissue. Check on that.

Do you brush your gums and cheeks as well? Could it be that you grind your teeth in your sleep or clench during the day?

[aspie_and_proud]

"Bruxism?"

That might be it, but I have an overbite and my jaw's enlightenment is off as well, so I'm not sure if I can actually use a bite guard. I didn't know that that could also cause back pain, sore shoulders, etc. But I also have very poor posture, so I was attributing those problems to that.

I read up on posture issues awhile ago. Needless to say, the troubling things I read made me want to kick my posture into shape. It has been hard, though. I stand up straight to do the dishes and 10 minutes later my lower back is very sore and I unconsciously revert back to slouching/hunching.

I shall try the garlic slice when I am able. That sounds interesting.

To be honest, I don't brush my cheeks as much as I should because they are difficult to brush. But yes, I do brush my gums as well.

[streetsurfer]

This helps me for sore low back. If you don't have a serious disc condition I think it would be safe to do. It will slowly strengthen you low back.

Lie on the floor and bend you legs with knees up. Now press the small of your back to the floor and hold it for 5-10 seconds. You'll be squeezing your glutes tight at the same time. Relax for a few seconds and repeat. Starting out do this maybe five reps, and do a few sets a day. Slowly increase until you can do three sets of ten presses a few times a day. You will feel much better in a few weeks I bet. Start slow so's not to add to your pain too much.

A dentist might be able to adjust your bite so your jaw aligns better. Then too, after a time of rest from grinding, things may subside and line up better too. Look up the NTI appliance and see how inconspicious it is. They are not like the tray type that you fit from the drug store. They can make them so they just fit over two to four front teeth, either top or bottom. It depends on your bite I guess. I have had one top and one bottom. It's been a real benefit to my overall health using it. You will notice relief in the first night most likely.

I wish you well.

[Revvell]

Never mind.

[fastfreedom]

About two weeks ago I purchased peppermint toothsoap and a ShowerBreeze oral irrigator with the 6 foot hose. I'm thoroughly impressed with both products. The oral irrigator blasts bad stuff out of the gum pockets and from between gaps in the teeth. And the tooth soap eliminates the bad critters living in the mouth. My mouth feels very clean after using them both. I can't comment on a single product alone because I use them together. I use the oral irrigator, "which is still easy to do without taking a shower, the 6 foot hose probably makes it simple", and then I brush with the peppermint toothsoap. I've been quite impressed, and I would say it's defininitely worth the money.

[Living Food]

I would dispense with the regular use of the pyroxide. I've known of it to be used to help remove necrotic tissue or help with infected wounds, but evidently it also harms good tissue. Check on that.

It's perfectly safe for brushing at a concentration of 3.5%. The kind you buy at the drug store is 3%, so it's completely harmless and beneficial. You can even rinse with 3.5% H2O2.

[streetsurfer]

It's perfectly safe for brushing at a concentration of 3.5%. The kind you buy at the drug store is 3%, so it's completely harmless and beneficial. You can even rinse with 3.5% H2O2.

Thank you for the correction. I apologize for posting an error.

[zephyr]

I use mint flavored tooth soap!

.................. ZEP

[aspie_and_proud]

I'm looking into getting tooth soap as we speak. I found a site that will ship it for free.

How has it been working out for you, zephyr?

Thanks, streetsurfer. I will look into that. I recently laid some garlic on my gum and it BURNED a lot. I hear that is normal, though.

[Arky]

No amount of brushing with this or that potion will overcome an imbalanced or deficient diet. Please understand this. Your teeth require certain dietary nutrients. They also require a diet that is not too rich in sugar or fructose, as these can detrimentally affect the levels of calcium and phosphorous in the bloodstream, which has a direct knock-on effect upon the teeth. Your teeth are nourished from the inside-out.

[michigan roman]

two things :

- i believe oil pulling , i use virgin coconut oil , is a good mouth health tool .
cleans teeth plus pulls inflamation out of gums . i dont pull 365 , but rather go through spans
of pulling for a week or two near 10 times per year

- i dont use anything to clean teeth 6 days per week , i just rinse / gargle with warm water several times before brushing with plain tooth brush . then rinse / gargle again . warm water and a tooth brush do good job of cleaning mouth . i brush sides of mouth / under tongue / top of tongue = everything . i also soak tooth brush in coffee cup with water and dish soap or water n peroxide after using . i brush teeth in utility room where i can use utility sink as less constricting then lavratory . plus i can keep brush soaking in cup over night out of way up on a shelf . on 7th day or sometimes more often per week i use a dab of baking soda on tooth brush to really scrub teeth . i also buy the plastic tooth things pre strung with floss . and i also believe in the anti biotic properties of golden seal used to rinse mouth and keep golden seal t bags on hand to gargle with this tea here n there

* hows it going arky . havent been posting much but ive read alot of yours and to me youve some how upp'ed your game mentally and are really emiting some great advice / info recently . think maybe you might have found a good addition to your habits causing your upgrade in mental performance , not as if it was previously anything other than outstanding . anyway take care

[Raw Angel Mom]

Some baking soda contain lead, please be careful with this.

I like to use raw coconut and swirl my mouth with it, it is so suiting, healing and also bleach my teeth.

All the best!

[aspie_and_proud]

Is anything safe? >O<

To Raw Angel Mother: How do you know if the baking soda has lead? Where can I purchase baking soda without lead? Anything else I should know on the subject? I get my baking soda from Walmart.. :/

[Arky]

Bicarbonate of soda differs from baking powder, in the sense that baking powder may contain aluminium. I've not heard about lead contamination but I'm always open to learning more.

The 'Bob's Red Mill' brand famously advertises itself as aluminum-free, for example:

http://www.bobsredmill.com/baking_powder.html


Anyway, for teeth brushing, it's plain old bicarbonate of soda one requires. If anyone can point me in the direction of information about possible lead contamination of this, please do, as I'd like to learn more.



Regarding the bruxism discussion, earlier in this thread, I've read that this can sometimes be related to a parasite issue. Might be worth checking.



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[aspie_and_proud]

Michigan roman - I've been oiling pulling on-and-off with refined oils. I just purchased cold pressed coconut oil to pull with, so I hope it is as awesome as I've heard. I never thought to brush UNDER my tongue, so I started doing it and it feels very weird.. Heh. It shall take some getting used to. Is there a specific amount of time you soak your toothbrush for (in the hydrogen peroxide)?

[michigan roman]

til my next brushing . but i guess just a few minutes would be as good . but my thought is while its in the peroxide no germs can develop so brush is cleaner . but thats probably way over board and as long as keep brush stored in a dry /clean manner thenrinse it before brushing theres no worry of germ development


Michigan roman - I've been oiling pulling on-and-off with refined oils. I just purchased cold pressed coconut oil to pull with, so I hope it is as awesome as I've heard. I never thought to brush UNDER my tongue, so I started doing it and it feels very weird.. Heh. It shall take some getting used to. Is there a specific amount of time you soak your toothbrush for (in the hydrogen peroxide)?