Smart Meters and electromagnetic radiation (video by Dr. Dietrich Klinghardt)

[The Sproutarian (Mr Raw)]

This video basically explains the dangers of smart meters, cordless phones and other devices. Funny enough, me and a sproutarian friend measured the electromagnetic radiation given off a cordless phone compared to a mobile and found the radiation from the cordless phone was ten times higher. We also found that microwave ovens are very dangerous also, as bad as cordless phones. Various people are having health problems due to these devices.
http://tv.naturalnews.com/v.asp?v=5F9785476840FA159BA3486CF3E94D41

Put a smart meter lock on your old meter so they can't install one and leave a note saying why you don't want it, ie, dangerous for health.
http://stopsmartmeters.com.au/how-to-defer-your-smart-meter-installation/locked-meter-box/#

l know this isn't a raw topic, but is it possible to include another section in the forum for an important health like a topic like this?

[MysticTree]

When you say cordless, is it the batteries that are the problem or something else? I don't have any of those items you mention at home but we do have a battery operated radio and a couple of torches. At work of course there is lots of electrical gizmorama. I do have a mobile phone too.

[streetsurfer]

It would be the frequency of radio waves used on a cordless home phone. 2.4 ghz or whatever they are at nowdays.
I come froma trucking background and all our trucks used motorola and then nextel radios. When they installed them we'd get the installation manual and operators manual. These radios are in police cars, emergency vehicles, business vehicles, and CB radios have similar warnings to not key the microphone if anyone is standing near the vehicle. I believe the required safe distance was twenty five feet. It's been a long time and I could be wrong on the distance but for the manufacturere to put that warning in there it has to have a reason. I suppose they could disrupt pacemakers and such but it was not a warning specific to that scenario.

[The Sproutarian (Mr Raw)]

When you say cordless, is it the batteries that are the problem or something else? I don't have any of those items you mention at home but we do have a battery operated radio and a couple of torches. At work of course there is lots of electrical gizmorama. I do have a mobile phone too.

lf the battery operated cordless phones are hooked up to an electricity supply they will be very bad, and we have measured these devices personally. The worst things are wireless internet, cordless phones, microwaves and those modern day flourescent lightbulbs. Mobiles are bad too, but not as bad as some of those other things l mentioned. The batteries themselves are not bad so things like torches are o.k.

My friend measured the radiation given off a microwave in another room with all the doors shut and the reading was still very very high. Those things just blast you with radiation.

The question that is asked is why are these things set to such a dangerous frequency? According to people who are supposed to know about these things, they can be set at a different frequency which is alot safer but they still choose to set them at a dangerous frequency. Since we are all electromagnetic by nature, some folks are saying that these devices are used for mind control that responds to these certain frequencies, especially the cell phone towers.

[laughalways]

Is the radiation from the microwave oven measured when in use or idle?

[MysticTree]

I'm not giving up the internet for my health! I mostly use internet on my mobile phone. I will at some point get an internet ready laptop or similar for use with a dongle.

[The Sproutarian (Mr Raw)]

Is the radiation from the microwave oven measured when in use or idle?
Only when in use.

Mystic Tree: l can understand. The internet is great to use and there is no point depriving yourself too much of something if it's going to make you miserable. At the end of the day, life is for enjoyment, and all bodies will eventually break down. All we can do is try to eat well, try to minimise the exposure, be good people and not worry about anything.

lf l get full of radiation, who cares. l'm doing the best l can; l eat weeds and sprouts and l avoid mobiles, so i'm doing something at least.

[Living Food]

Put a smart meter lock on your old meter so they can't install one and leave a note saying why you don't want it, ie, dangerous for health.

Unfortunately we may not have that option for very long: http://stopsmartmeters.org/2012/09/12/smart-meter-or-no-power-at-all-power-company-sends-three-armed-men-to-disconnect-power-just-for-opting-out/

They're going to extreme lengths to make sure that everyone is subject to these things.

[Living Food]

Some good info here:
http://takebackyourpower.net/research/health/
http://www.bioinitiative.org/freeaccess/press_release/index.htm
http://emfsafetynetwork.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/sage.pdf

A letter from a professor of physiology and cellular biophysics who has researched the biological effects of EMF for 25 years (http://www.cloutnow.org/lausdpdf/ColumbiaUniversity.pdf)

Los Angeles Board of Education "oppose[s] the future placement of cellular
telecommunications towers on or immediately adjacent to school property currently owned by the
District" (http://www.cloutnow.org/lausdpdf/LAUSD_Resolution2000.pdf)

Other smart districts: http://www.cloutnow.org/localres/

[The Sproutarian (Mr Raw)]

Unfortunately we may not have that option for very long: http://stopsmartmeters.org/2012/09/12/smart-meter-or-no-power-at-all-power-company-sends-three-armed-men-to-disconnect-power-just-for-opting-out/

They're going to extreme lengths to make sure that everyone is subject to these things.

My sproutarian friend is one of the only people who was told he didn't have to have one. He had a special way to get around it without doing the legal thing.

We can also do the legal thing because we both know that the courts have no way to enforce such a law. It's a con where the courts and government try converting common law into corporate maritime law. l reckon we refuse to accept a smart meter. When we are threatened to be taken to court we file certified paperwork to the clerk and prosecutor of the court informing them of our intensions of standing up for our common law rights and explaining how they are in breach of the law and that they must prove they have jurisdiction over the matter (they don't). Even if it does go to court, before you stand before the judge and give your name you insist they have prove they have jurisdiction over the matter, of court they will have to throw the case out because they only have authority over corporate martitime matters. Remember...learn your legal terms so they can't shaft you, and LEARN THE CONSTITUTION. Best to speak to Jack and Margy, they'll help you. *smile*

[Living Food]

My sproutarian friend is one of the only people who was told he didn't have to have one. He had a special way to get around it without doing the legal thing.

Now that I definitely want to hear about, but maybe by email if you don't want to share it here.


Best to speak to Jack and Margy, they'll help you. *smile*

I visited their website and learned a lot from it, but I still need to do much more research into the law before I start talking with them; I've got a lot to learn yet. They certainly know what they're talking about, Jack and Margy are the real deal.

[namllets]

Yes I agree this is a HUGE topic that definitely relates to our health. Especially since just about everybody has a cell phone these days. Thank God I've never had one. We're interviewing Magda Havas on Monday to talk about these issues.

There are a lot of good emf products on a website called Less EMF. Just Google it. Let's see if we can get an area of the forum dedicated to this. Great idea!

[terry brown]

Fascinating! (and depressing)
My cordless phones are outta here this weekend.
By the grace of God I saw an article in the paper that smart meters were being installed in my neighboorhood and I was able to opt out.
If I had not seen the article , it would have been installed with out my knowing then I would not have been able to do anything.

[terry brown]

What is a good detector to buy, a guass meter with RF? I am looking to get something to measure in my home.
Thanks!

[Living Food]

American Academy of Environmental Medicine paper on the harmful effects of EMR and especially radiofrequency exposure. RF includes smart meters, cell phones and WiFi:

http://aaemonline.org/emf_rf_position.html