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Hippo2Hippie
08-08-2012, 03:40 PM
So I fasted for 12 days, and I had been eating raw for 2 months when I started Raw . I wanted to go for longer but the cravings got the best of me.

Raw changes my life. I'm losing weight obviously, but most importantly, I don't need anti depressants when my body is ing enough nutrients. Which is the case when eating raw. Well anyway, 1 month in, I ate a vegetarian pizza on a homemade cauliflower pizza crust and fought more cravings and extreme foggy headedness for four days. I also ate a grilled cheese sandwich on that third day. I was extremely depressed. I got out of it and back on the wagon.

Ff to this fast I did, it really triggered something, I think I just felt deprived. I kept waiting for that wonderful feeling and the whole thing felt like drudgery and deprivation. Maybe I'm too early into this way of life or something. Anyway, I broke the fast all wron with nut cheese and today I had real macaroni and cheese. I'm really foggy, my whole system feels depressed and I want to go back to bed. I want to just eat and eat cheese. When I did raw 2 years ago and lost wt, it was always cheese I missed. Raw cheese just doesnt cut it at all. What is it about cheese? What might it be possessing that I want so bad? It's interesting, the thing that I had the hardest time with on a sad diet, was sweets. I would eat and eat and eat sweets constantly. Now I don't crave sweets at all, not even raw ones anymore, I just want cheese. I actually just realized that he 2 times I've caved have been around Pms time. Wonder if that's it.

Anyway. How do you overcome these cravings? I will not top raw. I actually have a tat representing the freedom that has been given to me via living foods. Freedom from Negatibe thoughts and depression. I will never let that go.

CaiHong
08-08-2012, 07:45 PM
hi Hippo,
I have no idea about the cheese cravings, totally get it with the sugar ones though and found the raw diet overcame those cravings and eating a little sugar brought them on again.
Just wanted to touch. Ase as I enjoyed your post.
CaiHong

lafsalot
08-08-2012, 08:32 PM
Revvell and Alissa broached this very subject one of their Rawkin Radio (I believe it was show 2) podcasts. Here's the link if you care to listen:

http://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/rawkin-radio-podcast-feed/id277053623

Hippo2Hippie
08-08-2012, 08:52 PM
did you mean alissa, or Alaina? She's interviewing someone named Alaina in 2. I'll listen though. :) I wish I could read the whole description before clicking.

lafsalot
08-09-2012, 03:10 AM
did you mean alissa, or Alaina? She's interviewing someone named Alaina in 2. I'll listen though. :) I wish I could read the whole description before clicking.

No, not number two on the list, but rather 84, Rawkin Radio (show) 2.

The Sproutarian (Mr Raw)
08-09-2012, 04:02 AM
Anyway. How do you overcome these cravings? I will not top raw. I actually have a tat representing the freedom that has been given to me via living foods. Freedom from Negatibe thoughts and depression. I will never let that go.

The best way to fast and keep cravings at bay is to consume things which stabilise blood sugar levels, so consume lots of green sprout juices like fenugreek sprout juice, kelp, chlorella, wheatgrass and various other sprouted greens. lf you aren't fasting on green juices you WILL be in for a very tough time.

lf you are starving yourself by doing other types of fasts, then naturally it will effect your blood sugar levels and you will crave.

Best to do fasting the easy and comfortable way. No need to make it hard when it doesn't have to be.

Raw Angel Mom
08-09-2012, 07:26 AM
Sometime the craving isn't necessary only physical. I truly know in my heart that we have two polarity of energy in us. By our choice, one of them get more power. When you fast, there is that part of you that had made do the poor choice, fighting to feed it again. Parasites will do this, they feed on your lymph if stagnant and eating dairy will lead to have a stagnant lymph.

Also, dairy is highly addictive because it contain a substance for the baby veal to want the milk. The human produce this same substance for their baby. So imagine the amount existing in cow milk that makes you want it. I use to think that i must need the dairy if i crave for it but i change my mind after watching two dvd. I was raw vegan and watching these movies helped me to hold on.

To help you to believe that you don't need that dairy watch this dvd "A diet for all reason" and "A diet for a new America". You can watch "Fork over knives" too.

You seem that you need comfort food. Learn to make raw vegan cheese. Elena love sell great dvd on fermented food. Allissa cohen, has recipes in her new book. It is very gourmet and comfort food on her second book. They sell only line nori stuffed with pate (very tasty and delicious). They can be use as emergency.

During your fasting, you need to make a choice to feel good, take deep breath and affirm the reason that you did this fast in the first place. If it was to improve your health then say "I AM HEALTHY NOW". If it was to be free from addiction "I AM FREE NOW". Repeat those affirmation as much as need it and go outside and take deep breath. Nature will help you to ground you for your purpose of your goal.

Trust that you have the power to do this and you will be ok, don't give power to those feelings that generate fears.

All is well!

lovelyjewellz
08-09-2012, 11:07 AM
I experience the same thing! No cravings for sweets really, just cheese! lol I read an article by Karen Knowler that talked about the energy vibrations of foods matching with the energy vibrations of our emotions. When we are feeling heavier emotions we crave heavier foods. It talked about how heavier foods, like cheese, slow our emotional and thought process down to match the slow vibrations of the food. This is a form of self medicating. When we have a bad day or something happens to trigger a heavy emotion, our brain looks for foods that match that energy vibration. This slows down the emotions within us making it easier to ignore them and push them away so that we don't have to worry about them. Raw food keeps the energy flowing forcing us to deal with emotions as they come instead of self medicating. When we give in to this desire to eat a food matching our heavier food than it keeps us at that lower vibration which keeps us craving those foods. To break the cycle we have to feel the flow of the emotions and learn from them instead of letting our subconscious divert us from feeling them by craving lower vibrational foods to slow us down.

I don't know if this article will help you, but it really helped me to look at my cheese cravings in a whole new light! and Karen Knowler is a raw, food genius with loads of great articles on her site! :)

http://karenknowler.typepad.com/living_in_the_raw/2012/05/the-truth-about-comfort-eating-part-1.html

The Sproutarian (Mr Raw)
08-09-2012, 12:51 PM
I experience the same thing! No cravings for sweets really, just cheese! lol I read an article by Karen Knowler that talked about the energy vibrations of foods matching with the energy vibrations of our emotions. When we are feeling heavier emotions we crave heavier foods. It talked about how heavier foods, like cheese, slow our emotional and thought process down to match the slow vibrations of the food. This is a form of self medicating. When we have a bad day or something happens to trigger a heavy emotion, our brain looks for foods that match that energy vibration.

Wow, l happen to agree completely with that, it rings so true. That is exactly what the cosmos has been telling me also. l feel this lady probably knows alot, and l bet she meditates...how else can someone come up with such advanced genious concepts. She would have to be using more than 5% of her brain to come up with stuff like that. This girl knows!!!...she has ultimate wisdom. Lower vibration people who only use 5% of their brain would be arguing that the science doesn't support the vibration theory, and they would argue she is crazy and wrong. But when you access the cosmos through good powerful vibrations you start to know what is the truth. To me, the ultimate truth is high frequency vibrations of sound and light via breatharianism, but the truth of lower realities is a life around eating food. lt's not the food that feeds you, IT'S THE VIBRATIONS!!!

Now l am going to say something which will really blow you out. To me this is really the true reality, this is what the cosmos is telling me about how things really are. We were originally breatharian and lived in a heavenly place and never knew of the consequences of poor choices, but we have free will, and with free will and ignorance of poor choices came the decision to eat raw vegan foods. The raw vegan foods lowered our consciousness, and with that eventually came the eating of animal products. By this time a food chain needed to be created, so one was created by the higher powers to provide for the consequences of our free will. But the problem was that our vibrations became so low by killing the plants and the animals that the animals eventually went from vegans to meat eaters. l bet you that if we all became vegan that all the animals would become vegan too. lf we became breatharian, the animals might become breatharian also. There are even cases of lions being vegan, and l bet these lions were Gods or saints sent down to teach us humans that we don't need to eat flesh, but being as dense as we are, we never got the hint. The fact that we eat is completely absurd to me, it makes no sense that we need to. Plants get their nutrition from the sun, and the sun is a sound and light vibration. But the problem is that if we try going breatharian overnight we will die because we don't have the higher consciousness vibrations to be able to properly absorb the cosmic food. This is the type of stuff which really floats my boat because l see it as the real truth; food is such a mundane topic because it's a complete and utter illusion, but unfortunately l am forced to talk about the illusion of sprouts because people aren't ready for the really good stuff. lt's always a compromise...l can't talk to most people about real food, so l am forced to talk about the next best thing...sprout juices. On my website l will be seperating the sections into the spiritual realty v's the sproutarian illusion; it needs to be done that way because the spiritual reality is sooo full on that most people will not be able to handle it. lt's hard talking about vitamins and minerals when you know it's a bunch of complete and utter garbage, but that's the way it needs to be.

MysticTree
08-09-2012, 01:52 PM
Of course it doesn't need to be that way. To thine own self be true and all that. As it happens I don't agree with what you say but I don't suppose that surprises you. I suspect that raw meat and fish wouldn't be too dreadful except that we choose a pacifist attitude towards animals.

lafsalot
08-09-2012, 03:45 PM
Since not all raw vegans can fast, your 12 day fast is a big accomplishment in and of itself, so give yourself and big pat on the back.

A few setbacks? No big deal. Just brush yourself off and move forward

Whatever the diet plan or food program one chooses, if you have the attitude that you can never indulge yourself, you're setting yourself up for failure, so why limit what you are eating while transitioning? Raw fats are extremely helpful, as are having plenty of raw decadent treats on hand.

If you haven't already, do yourself a favor and listen to the podcast I referred you to in an earlier post - it gives valuable tips on how to deal with those transitional cravings

The Sproutarian (Mr Raw)
08-09-2012, 11:16 PM
As it happens I don't agree with what you say but I don't suppose that surprises you.

Of course not, l wouldn't expect it to be any other way. *wink*

late edit: we were given a stomach, intestines etc because the higher powers knew we had free will. lt couldn't be any other way. We once had it all in the heavenly realms and we knew nothing of misery, disease and having to work for a living, so we always thought bliss was eternal. But the problem was...we were ignorant demi-Gods, we needed to experience hard lives and a fall in evolution to appreciate what we once had in the heavenly realms, that's why we ate the food...it was always the plan for our downfall by the higher power so we could appreciate what we once had. We we all eventually come home again, there will never be a second downfall because we will have had the experience and memories of such lower levels lives like the ones on Earth and other places. We needed those experiences to become complete and fully understand the universe. When we come home, all those memories over the billions of years will be remembered and we will stay in our rightful place.

l had fun talking about this, but l better get back to food talk now.

MysticTree
08-10-2012, 01:25 AM
For goodness sake, that makes no sense at all and it is seriously off topic not to mention out of bounds also.

lafsalot
08-10-2012, 04:25 AM
For goodness sake, that makes no sense at all and it is seriously off topic not to mention out of bounds also.

Ditto! Where are the "higher powers that be" (moderators :wink:) of this forum?

The Sproutarian (Mr Raw)
08-10-2012, 06:26 AM
Ditto! Where are the "higher powers that be" (moderators :wink:) of this forum?

Maybe you could report me to the moderator called `GoodCat' and put a strong case for me to be disciplined. She is normally quite strict about staying on topic, so l reckon if you spoke nicely to her about my bad behaviour, you might be able to talk GoodCat into giving me a suspension. Afterall, you have been around much longer than l have, so l am sure you will might be able to swing this in your favour. l broke the rules once before by going off topic and GoodCat pulled me up for it, so l am sure it won't be too hard for you to get her to take action against me. Here's the link below.
http://www.rawfoodtalk.com/member.php?19135-GoodCat

Regards: The Sproutarian.

laughalways
08-10-2012, 08:07 AM
Hmmm....maybe he's just having some fun with the comments and pulling folk's leg so to speak.

MysticTree
08-10-2012, 10:12 AM
If the mods remove anything it won't be because I reported anything. I don't use the report button.

lafsalot
08-10-2012, 12:46 PM
No need to supply the link, since I was/still am dealing directly with you. My response was merely a reminder for you to keep on topic, AND because this is Alissa's forum, abide by her guidelines/rules.

I respect everyone's belief system, even though I may not share them. However, there is a time and place for everything. Hence, I suggest you review the rules. Here's the link:

http://www.rawfoodtalk.com/showthread.php?33779-Rules-and-Guidelines-for-Posting-on-RawFoodTalk.com

The Sproutarian (Mr Raw)
08-10-2012, 12:54 PM
I suggest you review the rules.
An excellent suggestion. lt's amazing how quickly time goes and how quickly we forget the rules after 6 months of not reviewing them. l'll read `em tomorrow.